Really..? Another 3570K overclocking thread..

[DooKey]

Exchanging a CPU after you invalidate the warranty by overclocking it?

That is pure scummy in my book.

This is the sort of unethical behavior that drives up costs for the rest of us who aren't looking to scam the system.

I've often wondered this in regards to K processors. Are we really invalidating the warranty by overclocking when Intel advertises K processors as made for overclocking?

 

[Vectronic]

They don't really advertise it as "made for overclocking" more just "can be overclocked".

You can join their little overclockers club thing (I forget what it's called) for something like $20 (might even be free, I'm not sure, but you have to sign up)... *then* it's oK to overclock, they'll give you another chip if you burn it out.

 

[tweakboy]

I wonder if you would have had this problem if you just played it smart and got a ASUS for petes sake. 4.2GHz is almost free. 1.300v is all you need for 4.2Ghz.

Your chip is bunk or your motherboard is bunk....

 

[ckay27]

You can actually buy a overclocking warranty when you buy an i5 for around £20, so if you burn the chip out intel would send you a chip out. I haven't seen them for a while but they were definitely available nearer launch. Seemed ridiculous to me.

 

[Vectronic]

uhm yeah, what ^- he said...

 

[coffeejunkee]

I have tried the offset, allowing it to take an additional .050 volts with the vcore set to auto and still BSOD.

A lot of BSOD and sometime programs will stop responding. Mostly BSOD though.

Last time I used a Gigabyte board I had to set vcore to 'normal' to be able to use the DVID setting. Unlike Asus and other boards you could actually lock the vcore to its real stock setting with this 'normal' setting. If in fact you mean normal instead of auto 0.050V isn't much.

What's the actual stock voltage of your chip? Mine is 1.048V minimum under Linx. BSOD's sound serious though, usuallly it's bsod's > app crashes > whea errors on the road to stability. Either you have one of the worst 3570K's out there or that Z68 board doesn't play nice with it. Which doesn't make too much sense, since the only real difference with Z77 is the southbridge.

 

[Face2Face]

Last time I used a Gigabyte board I had to set vcore to 'normal' to be able to use the DVID setting. Unlike Asus and other boards you could actually lock the vcore to its real stock setting with this 'normal' setting. If in fact you mean normal instead of auto 0.050V isn't much.

What's the actual stock voltage of your chip? Mine is 1.048V minimum under Linx. BSOD's sound serious though, usuallly it's bsod's > app crashes > whea errors on the road to stability. Either you have one of the worst 3570K's out there or that Z68 board doesn't play nice with it. Which doesn't make too much sense, since the only real difference with Z77 is the southbridge.

Just got my replacement last night. Turns out I had the WORST 3570K out there.This new chip has stock voltage of 1.064 and with auto on and the turbo cranked to 42 = 4.2Ghz
It's reading 1.096 in CPU-Z loaded 100%. Temps are a lot lower, in the 40's with load. Looks like I may be able to hit 4.5Ghz with this chip. I will keep you guys posted - Any thank you very much for your help.

 

[john3850]

You might find this helpful:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2275027

Thanks for posting that link Yuriman.
I used that link about 6 weeks back to get me up to 4700.

 

[john3850]

Yeah, I am not proud of it but how does this drive up the cost for everyone else? Does Intel look at their cpu returns and say "we have a .005% return rate this year - time to tell Tech Data and the others guys prices are going up..."
Meanwhile Intel's distribution teams give away free CPU's left and right.

Whats stopping people from going to mc buying a handful of oem cpus and returning all but the fastest one.
Now I go in mc or my local store and get the slow cpus you returned which was put back into stock.

 

[Face2Face]

Whats stopping people from going to mc buying a handful of oem cpus and returning all but the fastest one.
Now I go in mc or my local store and get the slow cpus you returned which was put back into stock.

Not sure, I don't live near a Micro Center and I don't know their return policy. I told the store I purchased it from the 3570K was defective, so they won't be putting back on the shelves. I'm sure most people here would have done the same if they had the same chip I had the first go round. Everyone loves to preach, until they get a crap chip..

 

[Axon]

I am starting to think the problem is the motherboard.

My Gigabyte P67 has not been a beacon of stability in overclocking my 2600k, to the point where I got so frustrated that I just went out and bought an ASROCK Extreme 6 and an i5 3570k.

I'll say this much - the Extreme 6 certainly makes it easier to OC both chips.

 

[Axon]

Not sure, I don't live near a Micro Center and I don't know their return policy. I told the store I purchased it from the 3570K was defective, so they won't be putting back on the shelves. I'm sure most people here would have done the same if they had the same chip I had the first go round. Everyone loves to preach, until they get a crap chip..

I've only done this once, and only where my chip was clearly unstable. But I agree 100%; everyone will crap talk this practice...until they're holding the dud.

 

[Face2Face]

Thanks Axon!

Well I started to play with this new chip today and had some fun doing it. My goal was 4.5Ghz, but it seems I have set my sights too low with this particular chip.

With some better cooling I think 5.0Ghz is doable. I am very happy with the results so far. Still have some more stressing to do - I have been using IBT, AIDA64, LinX and Prime 95 - Temps can get in the low 90's - I have also played about an hour's worth of FC3. No blue screens and temps are in the 60's while gaming. I only use this computer for gaming and some encoding and that's it. It stays off most of the day. I will run a stress test on it for about 6hrs and see how it holds up. I was able to do this overclock using offset voltage of 0.235 and adjusting the turbo muti to 48. I did change the Auto vcore setting to Normal (Thanks CoffeeJunkie) which gave me a base line of 1.064. There is a little vdroop but I can't find the LLC in the bios to change that, so I hope it's alright. The good thing is since I am using Offset voltage the cpu still idles at a lower voltage which makes me very happy I will update once I get some more stressing done.

 

[Vectronic]

Good, now wander over here and try and beat my or Johns records.

 

[Face2Face]

Good, now wander over here and try and beat my or Johns records.

Looks like my time is lacking compared to yours. 25.43 ..??

 

[coffeejunkee]

That's looking better. LLC is under 3D Power section in uefi, probably need some for 4.8 Ghz. Also check for whea errors in windows event viewer. I myself don't bother with long Prime/Linx sessions anymore, I've found real life usage a much better stress test with these chips.

I also don't blame you for returning your old cpu, that one didn't deserve a K. People knowingly killing their hardware while overclocking but still claiming warranty is another story though.

 

[Face2Face]

That's looking better. LLC is under 3D Power section in uefi, probably need some for 4.8 Ghz. Also check for whea errors in windows event viewer. I myself don't bother with long Prime/Linx sessions anymore, I've found real life usage a much better stress test with these chips.

I also don't blame you for returning your old cpu, that one didn't deserve a K. People knowingly killing their hardware while overclocking but still claiming warranty is another story though.

Looks like with this UEFI bios Gigabyte dropped the LLC option. Although I did read somewhere once you overclock with offset it renders LLC unusable on this overparticular board with the F12 bios. It's a shame because I am experiencing vdroop. From 1.308-1.284-1.272 Even though it is drooping it's still very stable. Not sure how to check for WHEA errors?