Reality is unravelling for Bush

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

The truth hurts huh Galt? It's either the uber rich or the uber stupid who are left supporting Bush. BTW, anyone keeping tabs on the "security situation" in Iraq today? Three more Marines lost their lives for good ol' W.

Yea, it really hurts...wake me up when the liberal left control a single branch of government, given they and their policies coincide best with mainstream Americans.

15,000 died in France because of Chirac; what's your point again, G?

Oh ya, I forgot, Chirac causing that whole heat wave thing... what a monster. :roll:

One day, sir, you and your liberal pals will come to realize that your lack of policies/plans and the "only the stupid....only nascar...only idiots..." rhetoric is what has caused you to lose total control of every facet of government...

Don't worry, it's an election year, things will change. And are you denying that a huge chunk of the Bushies are not the uber rich and/or some combination of Nascar watching, beer chugging, Confederate flag waving Christian fundies?

Racist a-hole.. If I said something similar about all Kerry supporters being 'poor black crack smoking welfare users' I would probably be tossed off the boards. Since its a rip at while males, its acceptable around here.

BTW, I am middle class, from the north, don't watch nascar, and don't go to church.. Beer is good though. And I support Bush.

Where did he mention race?

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Why isn't anyone writing about the op-ed?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

The truth hurts huh Galt? It's either the uber rich or the uber stupid who are left supporting Bush. BTW, anyone keeping tabs on the "security situation" in Iraq today? Three more Marines lost their lives for good ol' W.

Yea, it really hurts...wake me up when the liberal left control a single branch of government, given they and their policies coincide best with mainstream Americans.

15,000 died in France because of Chirac; what's your point again, G?

Oh ya, I forgot, Chirac causing that whole heat wave thing... what a monster. :roll:

One day, sir, you and your liberal pals will come to realize that your lack of policies/plans and the "only the stupid....only nascar...only idiots..." rhetoric is what has caused you to lose total control of every facet of government...

Don't worry, it's an election year, things will change. And are you denying that a huge chunk of the Bushies are not the uber rich and/or some combination of Nascar watching, beer chugging, Confederate flag waving Christian fundies?

Racist a-hole.. If I said something similar about all Kerry supporters being 'poor black crack smoking welfare users' I would probably be tossed off the boards. Since its a rip at while males, its acceptable around here.

BTW, I am middle class, from the north, don't watch nascar, and don't go to church.. Beer is good though. And I support Bush.

Where did he mention race?

Galt failed hooked on phonics, I also said A HUGE CHUNK, not ALL, be proud in your non-conformity.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: irwincur

and at this time our track record shows violation of the Geneva convention

False. Read the conventions, it is really not that complicated. They apply only to uniformed soldiers (which Iraqi insurgents are not) and to soldiers who themselves follow the conventions. So in two cases it is obvious that the US was not in violation - unless beheading innocents still keeps the Iraqi insurgents qualified - as knowingly murduring of innocents is illegal under the conventions.

Iraqi "insurgents" are still protected by the Fourth Geneva convention. They must be tried by a tribunal before they can be punished for their crimes. And even then that does not give the US the right to torture suspects.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Agree with GrGr that irwincur must not understand the Geneva rules. It attempts to include all classes of people who might be incountered in a conflict and offer them protections. Any country signing it must follow the rules regardless of whether the other party in the conflict has signed.

irwincur also fails to realize that a comparison of Iraq to Stalingrad is not an attempt to compare the magnitude of the losses, but to point out parallels in the situations, of which there are many. All efforts by what may have been the strongest military power on the planet at the time were futile.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: GrGr
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

I've read that this quote was made at an event where politicians were supposed to be making fun of themselves and mocking each other in a friendly way. Supposedly even Al Gore was there.

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: irwincur




What a joke, the Germans lost 100,000 men in Stalingrad. The Soviets had over 1.6 million in camps. By comparison, the US lost 111 men during the great Stalingrad of Iraq (he was talking about Falluja), and has less than 10,000 foreign fighters imprisoned. This is just a great example of the lack of knowledge and control that the left exhibits these days.

Do you realize that a comparison can be qualitative, not quantitative?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: GrGr
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

"Poor" GrGr "is seems to be a victim of this ... disinformation campaign to brainwash poor unsuspecting and trusting people."

Transcript link for those who keep trying to use that quote out of context.

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: GrGr
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

"Poor" GrGr "is seems to be a victim of this ... disinformation campaign to brainwash poor unsuspecting and trusting people."

Transcript link for those who keep trying to use that quote out of context.

CkG

How was it used out of context and why did people laugh?

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: GrGr
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

"Poor" GrGr "is seems to be a victim of this ... disinformation campaign to brainwash poor unsuspecting and trusting people."

Transcript link for those who keep trying to use that quote out of context.

CkG

I don't follow, CAD.
This quote ("This is an impressive crowd-- the haves and the have-mores. (Laughter) Some people call you the elite. I call you my base. (Laughter)") from the article seems an attempt to be self-deprecating. As was the balance of his address. Mr Bush meant it to be funny... and it was.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

· Sidney Blumenthal is former senior adviser to President Clinton and Washington bureau chief of salon.com

Yep....there's a REAL unbiased source......

And you're not biased? At least he knows what hes talking about, whats your excuse?

 

[RobCur]

Bush and the economy? disasterous.:thumbsdown:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: GrGr
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

"Poor" GrGr "is seems to be a victim of this ... disinformation campaign to brainwash poor unsuspecting and trusting people."

Transcript link for those who keep trying to use that quote out of context.

CkG

How was it used out of context and why did people laugh?

:roll: It was presented without context. GrGr is trying to say it means something besides the piece of political humor that it was.

CkG

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: GrGr
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

"Poor" GrGr "is seems to be a victim of this ... disinformation campaign to brainwash poor unsuspecting and trusting people."

Transcript link for those who keep trying to use that quote out of context.

CkG

How was it used out of context and why did people laugh?

:roll: It was presented without context. GrGr is trying to say it means something besides the piece of political humor that it was.

CkG

You are correct. I had seen the quote without context and was not aware it was a joke when I used it.

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Except for the Nascar crowd.

You seem to imply that only the beer-bellied, Nascar-following, redneck crowd is the only group that remains in support of President Bush.

Ironically, I live in the Washington, DC area and know more wealthy people in support of Bush as opposed to his opponents.

Time to come out of the dark hole that you are residing in.



* Disclaimer: This was not meant as a personal bash per-se. Rather, a reality check.

Explains a lot.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: GrGr
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

"Poor" GrGr "is seems to be a victim of this ... disinformation campaign to brainwash poor unsuspecting and trusting people."

Transcript link for those who keep trying to use that quote out of context.

CkG

How was it used out of context and why did people laugh?

:roll: It was presented without context. GrGr is trying to say it means something besides the piece of political humor that it was.

CkG

You are correct. I had seen the quote without context and was not aware it was a joke when I used it.

Yes, but if you think about it, think about why it was a joke, the truth behind it that makes it funny, then your use of the quote while lacking the original context is still in the context you intended.

 

[Siddhartha]

Regarding the OP:

I think the election will be decided by strenght of the economy in certain states, for example Ohio. People vote their bank accounts.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: GrGr
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

"Poor" GrGr "is seems to be a victim of this ... disinformation campaign to brainwash poor unsuspecting and trusting people."

Transcript link for those who keep trying to use that quote out of context.

CkG

How was it used out of context and why did people laugh?

:roll: It was presented without context. GrGr is trying to say it means something besides the piece of political humor that it was.

CkG

You are correct. I had seen the quote without context and was not aware it was a joke when I used it.

Yes, but if you think about it, think about why it was a joke, the truth behind it that makes it funny, then your use of the quote while lacking the original context is still in the context you intended.

That is the beauty of it. Just like the truth made Bush's pathological joke, at another plutocratic dinner party, about there being no WMD under his sofa so unfunny.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Except for the Nascar crowd.

NASCAR redneck liberal checking in !
:moon:

 

[Moonbeam]

"That is the beauty of it. Just like the truth made Bush's pathological joke, at another plutocratic dinner party, about there being no WMD under his sofa so unfunny."

Yeah, exactly.