Reagan coverage over the top?

[Klixxer]

D-day meant so much for western Europe and Ronald Reagan meant so much for eastern Europe. Both events deserve a lot of credit, and as a European i will salute both the brave men who fought for my future freedom in the D-day attacks and Ronald Reagan who fought for the still enslaved part of Europe previously known as eastern europe.

Today Europe stands united and free, we have the US to thank for that, we haven't forgotten that.

 

[Gaard]

IMO, the death of a previous president eclipses any D-Day anniversary. No, I don't think all the media coverage is over the top.

At least coverage of Reagan's death is better than all that prisoner abuse crap. I'm glad the Liberal media found something else to exploit. 😉

 

[heartsurgeon]

Originally posted by: rickn

quote:

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
i shall be posting a thread tha will place Reagan's legacy into perspective for those who do not remember the details of it.

i believe you will find the origins of the "Bush Doctrine" are in the "Reagan Doctrine"
the left's reaction to Reagan and the Reagan Doctrine are being repeated today in their reaction to the Bush Doctrine.

and yes, Reagan and Bush are extremely similar in policy and approach.

i shall prove it.
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except Bush is an idiot, and Reagan wasn't

The near total lack of historical perspective is appaulling.

To put it into perspective, here is how the Liberal contemporaries of Reagan viewed him during his Presidency.

Remember, he swept an incumbent President out of office (Carter), and won re-election in a monumental landslide over Mondale. Mondale only got the votes of Minnesota (his home state), and Washington D.C.

If some of these descriptions sound familiar, they should be, nearly all of them have been used against Pres. Bush.

Liberals have a rich history of labeling Republicans stupid, as you will read below:

Clifford Clark, a prominent Democrat, labeled Reagan as an "amiable dunce"
Clark was later indicted by the Feds for the BCCI Banking scandal (oh how the mighty fall).

Speaker of the House Jim Wright (D), "Appalled by what seems to me a lack of depth..."

Nicholas von Hoffman (liberal columnist) "humiliating to think of this unlettered, self-assured bumpkin being our president."

Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill (D) "He knows less than any president I've ever known."
(O'Neill shilled cheap booze on TV after retirement, as embarassing as Dole/Viagra ads)

Anthony Lewis (The New York Times): Reagan had only a "seven-minute attention span."

Author Gail Sheehy (lefty) stated Reagan was "half asleep" while he was president.

John Osborne (New Republic) "He is the most dangerous person ever to come this close to the presidency"

Editorial in the Nation "He is a menace to the human race."

House Speaker Tip O'Neill (D) "The evil is in the White House at the present time,"

House Speaker Jim Wright (D) "It just makes me have utter contempt for Reagan,"

Anthony Lewis (New York Times) described Reagan as "simplistic," "sectarian," "terribly dangerous" and "primitive."

John Huston (Hollywood director) "he has a low order of intelligence, with a certain cunning. And not animal cunning, Human cunning. Animal cunning is too fine an expression for him"

Geraldine Ferraro (D) "Since when is it considered cruel and unusual punishment to expect the President to learn the facts he needs to govern?" She was Mondales VP running mate, and shared credit with him in the most humiliating Democrat defeat in modern history.

Chicago Tribune Editorial "Mr. Reagan's ignorance about the Soviet Union and his air-headed rhetoric on the issues of foreign policy and arms control have reached the limit of tolerance and have become and embarrassment to the US and a danger to world peace."

David Broder (liberal loudmouth columnist) "The task of watering the arid desert between Reagan's ears is a challenging on for his aides."

Jimmy Breslin (lib columnist) "So shockingly dumb that by his very presence in the office he numbs an entire country."

You need a historical perspective to understand the Democrat Party of today. You would never know what the Democrats really thought of Reagan today..given the abundance of crocodilian tears they are shedding for him at this time (only because of his overwhelming popularity).

history repeats itself all the time. the Democrats thought this (as did most liberals), and were shocked at the results of election, particularly his crushing defeat of Mondale.

just a reminder, liberals have called Bush stupid, a dunce, unable to read multipage documents, a terrorist, worse than Saddam, the greatest threat to peace in the world, controlled and manipulated by his staff...these are identical to the statements made by Liberals about Reagan..

yep, the wheel of history goes round and round....

 

[JellyBaby]

the wheel of history goes round and round....

But the hamsters aren't aware they're on the wheel, only that their little feet are in motion.

 

[mastertech01]

If you wanted D Day coverage there was tons of it on History Channel and elsewhere. The loss of the former President was indeed the event of the day and definitely worth the coverage given. Hell if we cant give a great former President at least as much coverage as the loss of Princess DI, we need to re-evaluate.

I remember waiting in a long, long line to walk past the casket of Harry S. Truman. It was an event that will remain with me forever, as this should for the current generation. Great leaders as Ronald Regan only come around in rare moments in history and we can be proud we lived in a time which we were blessed to have him. Who knows if we will ever see another in our lifetime.

 

[gsaldivar]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
D-day meant so much for western Europe and Ronald Reagan meant so much for eastern Europe. Both events deserve a lot of credit, and as a European i will salute both the brave men who fought for my future freedom in the D-day attacks and Ronald Reagan who fought for the still enslaved part of Europe previously known as eastern europe.

Today Europe stands united and free, we have the US to thank for that, we haven't forgotten that.

:beer: for you. 🙂

 

[Napalm]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

The near total lack of historical perspective is appaulling.

To put it into perspective, here is how the Liberal contemporaries of Reagan viewed him during his Presidency.

Remember, he swept an incumbent President out of office (Carter), and won re-election in a monumental landslide over Mondale. Mondale only got the votes of Minnesota (his home state), and Washington D.C.

If some of these descriptions sound familiar, they should be, nearly all of them have been used against Pres. Bush.

Liberals have a rich history of labeling Republicans stupid, as you will read below:

Clifford Clark, a prominent Democrat, labeled Reagan as an "amiable dunce"
Clark was later indicted by the Feds for the BCCI Banking scandal (oh how the mighty fall).

Speaker of the House Jim Wright (D), "Appalled by what seems to me a lack of depth..."

Nicholas von Hoffman (liberal columnist) "humiliating to think of this unlettered, self-assured bumpkin being our president."

Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill (D) "He knows less than any president I've ever known."
(O'Neill shilled cheap booze on TV after retirement, as embarassing as Dole/Viagra ads)

Anthony Lewis (The New York Times): Reagan had only a "seven-minute attention span."

Author Gail Sheehy (lefty) stated Reagan was "half asleep" while he was president.

John Osborne (New Republic) "He is the most dangerous person ever to come this close to the presidency"

Editorial in the Nation "He is a menace to the human race."

House Speaker Tip O'Neill (D) "The evil is in the White House at the present time,"

House Speaker Jim Wright (D) "It just makes me have utter contempt for Reagan,"

Anthony Lewis (New York Times) described Reagan as "simplistic," "sectarian," "terribly dangerous" and "primitive."

John Huston (Hollywood director) "he has a low order of intelligence, with a certain cunning. And not animal cunning, Human cunning. Animal cunning is too fine an expression for him"

Geraldine Ferraro (D) "Since when is it considered cruel and unusual punishment to expect the President to learn the facts he needs to govern?" She was Mondales VP running mate, and shared credit with him in the most humiliating Democrat defeat in modern history.

Chicago Tribune Editorial "Mr. Reagan's ignorance about the Soviet Union and his air-headed rhetoric on the issues of foreign policy and arms control have reached the limit of tolerance and have become and embarrassment to the US and a danger to world peace."

David Broder (liberal loudmouth columnist) "The task of watering the arid desert between Reagan's ears is a challenging on for his aides."

Jimmy Breslin (lib columnist) "So shockingly dumb that by his very presence in the office he numbs an entire country."

You need a historical perspective to understand the Democrat Party of today. You would never know what the Democrats really thought of Reagan today..given the abundance of crocodilian tears they are shedding for him at this time (only because of his overwhelming popularity).

history repeats itself all the time. the Democrats thought this (as did most liberals), and were shocked at the results of election, particularly his crushing defeat of Mondale.

just a reminder, liberals have called Bush stupid, a dunce, unable to read multipage documents, a terrorist, worse than Saddam, the greatest threat to peace in the world, controlled and manipulated by his staff...these are identical to the statements made by Liberals about Reagan..

yep, the wheel of history goes round and round....

Let us distill your argument:
A) Reagan was not the sharpest tool in the shed, and democrats called him on it;
B) Bush is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and democrats have called him on it;
C) Therefore, both are very smart and Democrats are liars.

I assume this is what passes for deductive reasoning at Neocon U. If given enough time you may even demonstrate some of the skills you learned in earning your credit in Snappy Neocon Retorts...

N

 

[Napalm]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
It's like Bush is incapable of the finesse Reagan seemed to have, like a hammer trying to imitate a scalpel. I think Reagan's kids even took great exception to Bush being compared to Reagan.

The quote was: ""My father crapped bigger ones than George Bush...". How true.

N

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
The near total lack of historical perspective is appaulling.

To put it into perspective, here is how the Liberal contemporaries of Reagan viewed him during his Presidency.

Remember, he swept an incumbent President out of office (Carter), and won re-election in a monumental landslide over Mondale. Mondale only got the votes of Minnesota (his home state), and Washington D.C.

If some of these descriptions sound familiar, they should be, nearly all of them have been used against Pres. Bush.

Liberals have a rich history of labeling Republicans stupid, as you will read below:

Clifford Clark, a prominent Democrat, labeled Reagan as an "amiable dunce"
Clark was later indicted by the Feds for the BCCI Banking scandal (oh how the mighty fall).

Speaker of the House Jim Wright (D), "Appalled by what seems to me a lack of depth..."

Nicholas von Hoffman (liberal columnist) "humiliating to think of this unlettered, self-assured bumpkin being our president."

Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill (D) "He knows less than any president I've ever known."
(O'Neill shilled cheap booze on TV after retirement, as embarassing as Dole/Viagra ads)

Anthony Lewis (The New York Times): Reagan had only a "seven-minute attention span."

Author Gail Sheehy (lefty) stated Reagan was "half asleep" while he was president.

John Osborne (New Republic) "He is the most dangerous person ever to come this close to the presidency"

Editorial in the Nation "He is a menace to the human race."

House Speaker Tip O'Neill (D) "The evil is in the White House at the present time,"

House Speaker Jim Wright (D) "It just makes me have utter contempt for Reagan,"

Anthony Lewis (New York Times) described Reagan as "simplistic," "sectarian," "terribly dangerous" and "primitive."

John Huston (Hollywood director) "he has a low order of intelligence, with a certain cunning. And not animal cunning, Human cunning. Animal cunning is too fine an expression for him"

Geraldine Ferraro (D) "Since when is it considered cruel and unusual punishment to expect the President to learn the facts he needs to govern?" She was Mondales VP running mate, and shared credit with him in the most humiliating Democrat defeat in modern history.

Chicago Tribune Editorial "Mr. Reagan's ignorance about the Soviet Union and his air-headed rhetoric on the issues of foreign policy and arms control have reached the limit of tolerance and have become and embarrassment to the US and a danger to world peace."

David Broder (liberal loudmouth columnist) "The task of watering the arid desert between Reagan's ears is a challenging on for his aides."

Jimmy Breslin (lib columnist) "So shockingly dumb that by his very presence in the office he numbs an entire country."

You need a historical perspective to understand the Democrat Party of today. You would never know what the Democrats really thought of Reagan today..given the abundance of crocodilian tears they are shedding for him at this time (only because of his overwhelming popularity).

history repeats itself all the time. the Democrats thought this (as did most liberals), and were shocked at the results of election, particularly his crushing defeat of Mondale.

just a reminder, liberals have called Bush stupid, a dunce, unable to read multipage documents, a terrorist, worse than Saddam, the greatest threat to peace in the world, controlled and manipulated by his staff...these are identical to the statements made by Liberals about Reagan..

yep, the wheel of history goes round and round....

Exactly. Napalm's attempt at deduction is pretty sad. The point is that the left's play book hasn't changed and their plays still don't work. It also shows the utter contempt they had for Reagan just as they now have contempt for Bush.
The outrage and wringing of the left's hands was quite notable when he demanded Gorby open the gate and tear down the wall. They were peeing in their pants(figuratively) when he called them the "evil empire". They were proven to be wrong and they won't be able to re-write history to cover their weakness and hatred. I too find it interesting how many crock tears are being shed. They loathed this man and were utterly shocked that he won(twice) and were floored that he won by such a wide margin.

History will see this man as one of the greatest Presidents in our history. His vision and optimism are unmatched in the modern era.

CkG

 

[wnied]

Good Riddance to Reagan and his politics. Theres no love lost in my household for that man. When he was president, my cousin was killed, my Fathers & my uncles jobs were taken away. one by base closures, and the other by Reagans firing of the Air Traffic controllers during their strike. (Mind you they hired alot of these people back at half the salaries they were originally given, but you wont read much about that in todays press, since Reagans "Hard Line Stance with them was front page news.)


...Where was his "Hard Line Stance" when 255 Marines were killed in Beirut?
Great Communicator My Ass.
~wnied~

 

[gsaldivar]

Originally posted by: wnied
Good Riddance to Reagan and his politics. Theres no love lost in my household for that man.

Did a piece of the Berlin Wall fall on someone you knew? 😛

 

[heartsurgeon]

Let us distill your argument:
A) Reagan was not the sharpest tool in the shed, and democrats called him on it;
B) Bush is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and democrats have called him on it;
C) Therefore, both are very smart and Democrats are liars.

I assume this is what passes for deductive reasoning at Neocon U. If given enough time you may even demonstrate some of the skills you learned in earning your credit in Snappy Neocon Retorts...

N

Those Canadians!! Gotta like their beer, gotta love their comedians. Trudeau was cool, and his wife was smokin hot, eh??

Liberals and Democrats thought Reagan was a dunderhead, clueless on how to deal with the Soviets, and a threat to world peace. By the way, they also thought he was a criminal (gee, sounds more and more how they view Bush..uncanny isn't it). The Democrats were seething with contempt for Reagan.

Well, Gorbi and Ted Kennedy both give Reagan credit for ending the Cold War. Now some of you kids don't understand what that means. But, when i was growing up we had to practice "air raid" drills for when the Soviet Nukes were going to rain down on us. I remember looking out the southern windows of my house expecting to see Soviet missiles coming from Cuba, people seriously consider that there might not be a future where their kids would be alive. I use to fantasize about what i would do if World War III started. The Home Improvement centers sold underground bomb shelter kits. You may think that's all laughable, only because you didn't grow up with those threats in you life...

The Democrats were all in favor of "Detente", living with Communism, the idea that Communism was here for good, and never going away. Reagan rejected all of that to the cat calls and howls of protest from the Democrats, and proved them wrong. Make no mistake, Reagan ended the Cold War and defeated Communism. No on else did.

Until Reagan overthrew the communists in Grenada, and kicked out (killed) the Cuban troops stationed there, not a single inch of soil anywhere in the world had been freed from Communism, once the communists took over.

The "Breshnev Doctrine" was "once Communist, always Communist" And until Reagan, that was historically accurate.

The moron that the Democrats detested, did what they couldn't do, defeated the Communists. By the way, he also defeated all those brilliant Democrats.

By the way, the "Peace Dividend", the expansive economy and shrinking of the Budget Deficit that Clinton presided over was entirely because of Reagan. He ended the Cold War. An analysis of Clinton's budget policies shows that on the spending side of the Budget...nearly ALL his cuts in Goverment Spending were in military budgets, possible only because Reagan had removed the Soviet Union as a threat. Clinton called reducing the military budget and personel levels "reducing the size of goverment"
Yep, even Clinton benefitted from Reagan's "stupid" policies.

 

[Napalm]

Silly plumber... see below:

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

Let us distill your argument:
A) Reagan was not the sharpest tool in the shed, and democrats called him on it;
B) Bush is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and democrats have called him on it;
C) Therefore, both are very smart and Democrats are liars.

I assume this is what passes for deductive reasoning at Neocon U. If given enough time you may even demonstrate some of the skills you learned in earning your credit in Snappy Neocon Retorts...

N

Those Canadians!! Gotta like their beer, gotta love their comedians. Trudeau was cool, and his wife was smokin hot, eh??

Was that the snappy retort? You must have received an A at Neocon U - mind you, the competition was not likely stellar. BTW - while Trudeau was a rich, pampered hippy, he was undeniably an intellectual. Regarding his wife - you are right, she was quite hot. However, she was also a quite the whack-job...

Liberals and Democrats thought Reagan was a dunderhead, clueless on how to deal with the Soviets, and a threat to world peace. By the way, they also thought he was a criminal (gee, sounds more and more how they view Bush..uncanny isn't it). The Democrats were seething with contempt for Reagan.

Lets call a spade a spade: Reagan was charismatic and an actor. The Republican machine gave him the job of acting Presidential while they pushed through their conservative agenda. He did a great job.

Well, Gorbi and Ted Kennedy both give Reagan credit for ending the Cold War. Now some of you kids don't understand what that means. But, when i was growing up we had to practice "air raid" drills for when the Soviet Nukes were going to rain down on us. I remember looking out the southern windows of my house expecting to see Soviet missiles coming from Cuba, people seriously consider that there might not be a future where their kids would be alive. I use to fantasize about what i would do if World War III started. The Home Improvement centers sold underground bomb shelter kits. You may think that's all laughable, only because you didn't grow up with those threats in you life...

Try to be fair and balanced - I know the University where you received your plumbing degree did not have a class in this discipline, but try your best: He bankrupt the Soviets into submission, and in doing so ballooned the national debt to 3 times what it was when he took power. Many think it was worth it. What many don't readily conisder/admit is that the Soviets were an experiment quickly spinning out of control. Reagan simply hastened the collapse of a declining state. Was a couple of years really worth the trillions in debt and accumulated interest?

Hint: its a rhetorical question...

The Democrats were all in favor of "Detente", living with Communism, the idea that Communism was here for good, and never going away. Reagan rejected all of that to the cat calls and howls of protest from the Democrats, and proved them wrong. Make no mistake, Reagan ended the Cold War and defeated Communism. No on else did.

Funny... I always found it ironic that the same people who gave all the credit to Reagan for what happened during Bush's watch (i.e., fall of the USSR) also took credit for the release of the hostages during Reagan's first days in office...

Until Reagan overthrew the communists in Grenada, and kicked out (killed) the Cuban troops stationed there, not a single inch of soil anywhere in the world had been freed from Communism, once the communists took over.

The "Breshnev Doctrine" was "once Communist, always Communist" And until Reagan, that was historically accurate.


The moron that the Democrats detested, did what they couldn't do, defeated the Communists. By the way, he also defeated all those brilliant Democrats.

This at least is true. Then again, it was Walter Mondale. The electorate in Minnesota can only get one so far...

By the way, the "Peace Dividend", the expansive economy and shrinking of the Budget Deficit that Clinton presided over was entirely because of Reagan. He ended the Cold War. An analysis of Clinton's budget policies shows that on the spending side of the Budget...nearly ALL his cuts in Goverment Spending were in military budgets, possible only because Reagan had removed the Soviet Union as a threat. Clinton called reducing the military budget and personel levels "reducing the size of goverment"
Yep, even Clinton benefitted from Reagan's "stupid" policies.

Nice little pease of revisionism. I'd suggest you do a bit more reading on the impact of technology on modern warfare (hint: it had a certain secondary effect on required military expenditure...). Of course, in doing so you might then have to acknowledge that the "reduced" military is the same one that Bush Lite used with such "surgical" percision so very recently. But then again, you'd know all about surgical percision, wouldn't you?

N

 

[heartsurgeon]

she was quite hot. However, she was also a quite the whack-job

Not infrequently, the two go hand in hand. She was "smokin" however....Use to read about her in McClean's I do like Canadian beer and comedians by the way, as well as Baniff, and Jasper.

This at least is true. Then again, it was Walter Mondale.

You guys picked him!

 

[Napalm]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

she was quite hot. However, she was also a quite the whack-job

Not infrequently, the two go hand in hand. She was "smokin" however....Use to read about her in McClean's I do like Canadian beer and comedians by the way, as well as Baniff, and Jasper.

This at least is true. Then again, it was Walter Mondale.

You guys picked him!

weak

 

[Napalm]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
The near total lack of historical perspective is appaulling.

To put it into perspective, here is how the Liberal contemporaries of Reagan viewed him during his Presidency.

Remember, he swept an incumbent President out of office (Carter), and won re-election in a monumental landslide over Mondale. Mondale only got the votes of Minnesota (his home state), and Washington D.C.

If some of these descriptions sound familiar, they should be, nearly all of them have been used against Pres. Bush.

Liberals have a rich history of labeling Republicans stupid, as you will read below:

Clifford Clark, a prominent Democrat, labeled Reagan as an "amiable dunce"
Clark was later indicted by the Feds for the BCCI Banking scandal (oh how the mighty fall).

Speaker of the House Jim Wright (D), "Appalled by what seems to me a lack of depth..."

Nicholas von Hoffman (liberal columnist) "humiliating to think of this unlettered, self-assured bumpkin being our president."

Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill (D) "He knows less than any president I've ever known."
(O'Neill shilled cheap booze on TV after retirement, as embarassing as Dole/Viagra ads)

Anthony Lewis (The New York Times): Reagan had only a "seven-minute attention span."

Author Gail Sheehy (lefty) stated Reagan was "half asleep" while he was president.

John Osborne (New Republic) "He is the most dangerous person ever to come this close to the presidency"

Editorial in the Nation "He is a menace to the human race."

House Speaker Tip O'Neill (D) "The evil is in the White House at the present time,"

House Speaker Jim Wright (D) "It just makes me have utter contempt for Reagan,"

Anthony Lewis (New York Times) described Reagan as "simplistic," "sectarian," "terribly dangerous" and "primitive."

John Huston (Hollywood director) "he has a low order of intelligence, with a certain cunning. And not animal cunning, Human cunning. Animal cunning is too fine an expression for him"

Geraldine Ferraro (D) "Since when is it considered cruel and unusual punishment to expect the President to learn the facts he needs to govern?" She was Mondales VP running mate, and shared credit with him in the most humiliating Democrat defeat in modern history.

Chicago Tribune Editorial "Mr. Reagan's ignorance about the Soviet Union and his air-headed rhetoric on the issues of foreign policy and arms control have reached the limit of tolerance and have become and embarrassment to the US and a danger to world peace."

David Broder (liberal loudmouth columnist) "The task of watering the arid desert between Reagan's ears is a challenging on for his aides."

Jimmy Breslin (lib columnist) "So shockingly dumb that by his very presence in the office he numbs an entire country."

You need a historical perspective to understand the Democrat Party of today. You would never know what the Democrats really thought of Reagan today..given the abundance of crocodilian tears they are shedding for him at this time (only because of his overwhelming popularity).

history repeats itself all the time. the Democrats thought this (as did most liberals), and were shocked at the results of election, particularly his crushing defeat of Mondale.

just a reminder, liberals have called Bush stupid, a dunce, unable to read multipage documents, a terrorist, worse than Saddam, the greatest threat to peace in the world, controlled and manipulated by his staff...these are identical to the statements made by Liberals about Reagan..

yep, the wheel of history goes round and round....

Exactly. Napalm's attempt at deduction is pretty sad. The point is that the left's play book hasn't changed and their plays still don't work. It also shows the utter contempt they had for Reagan just as they now have contempt for Bush.
The outrage and wringing of the left's hands was quite notable when he demanded Gorby open the gate and tear down the wall. They were peeing in their pants(figuratively) when he called them the "evil empire". They were proven to be wrong and they won't be able to re-write history to cover their weakness and hatred. I too find it interesting how many crock tears are being shed. They loathed this man and were utterly shocked that he won(twice) and were floored that he won by such a wide margin.

History will see this man as one of the greatest Presidents in our history. His vision and optimism are unmatched in the modern era.

CkG

super weak

N

PS. CAD - it was a summary, not an attempt at deduction...

 

[conjur]

'Bush should have died, not Reagan': Morrissey

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/119/119107_bush_should_have_died_not_reagan_morrissey.html

MANCHESTER music legend Morrissey sparked controversy when he announced Ronald Reagan's death live on stage during a concert - and then declared he wished it was George Bush who had died instead.

Thousands of fans at Dublin Castle, in Ireland, cheered when the ex-Smiths frontman made the announcement that the former American president, who had battled with Alzheimer's Disease, had passed away.

And an even bigger cheer followed when Morrissey - who is no stranger to controversy - then said he wished it had been the current President, George W Bush, who had died.

Fan Tony Murray said: "He commented about the death of Ronald Reagan and when he wished that it was George W instead the crowd went wild."

The Dublin concert was the latest leg of Morrissey's European tour, which began at the M.E.N. Arena last month when the ever-popular performer made his first appearance in the city for 12 years.

He is due to appear at the Move festival at Old Trafford cricket ground next month.

A spokesman for Morrissey's record label, Sanctuary Records, said: "We do not have a recording of the gig, but as far as we can tell, Morrissey was just alerting the audience to the fact that Ronald Reagan had died.

"He then simply followed that up with his comment about George Bush, which was his own opinion. He is no stranger to controversy."

A selection of the many comments we received on this article are published below. The debate is now closed.

That was certainly a classy move. :roll:

I'm afraid to read the comments......

 

[gsaldivar]

MANCHESTER music legend Morrissey sparked controversy when he announced Ronald Reagan's death live on stage during a concert - and then declared he wished it was George Bush who had died instead.

Wow.....

What a total retard.


I think one of the comments on the Manchester UK forums says it best:

One of the many reasons Ronald Reagan is such a beloved figure in America is that he would've never engaged in such sophomoric and hateful rhetoric, especially concerning someone who had just passed away. Reagan's optimism, kindness and humor lifted America - and the world - to new heights...

When Morrissey dies, most Americans will refrain from stooping to his level by making cruel remarks. Instead, almost all Americans will just have blank expressions on their faces as they ask the same question I asked when I first saw this story: "Who's Morrissey?"

:beer:😀

 

[namike]

The Gipper was one of the few presidents to establish morals is this country (aka conservatism). No lying to 270 million people, no lying to his wife, no cheating on his wife and etc...

This country will miss the great morals and job he did in the 80's which led us through the succesful 90's and into the 2000's

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: namike
The Gipper was one of the few presidents to establish morals is this country (aka conservatism). No lying to 270 million people, no lying to his wife, no cheating on his wife and etc...

This country will miss the great morals and job he did in the 80's which led us through the succesful 90's and into the 2000's

Remember Carter's fireside chats? Lounging around in his blue jeans, telling americans to put away them credit cards, don't buy anything. He was like some heehaw throwback. Reagan brought some integrity back to the WH.

 

[namike]

Also*, during Carter's Presidency....Intrest rates were at 18.00%+.....During Bush's Presidency they have been ~4%.....hrm....go figure...what could be causing that?

 

[conjur]

Uh, wrong thread there, namike?

 

[conjur]

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/22531.htm

WHEN ABC News broke the sad news of Ronald Reagan's death Saturday afternoon, it sent its competitors into a frenzy. The press corps traveling with President Bush in Normandy first heard the news when ABC's White House reporter Terry Moran began doing a live report in their midst. The reaction, according to one eyewitness, was "total chaos ? people running ev erywhere, knocking into things." CNN's John King yelled into his cellphone that CNN had been beaten and was so upset he threatened to quit. King ended his tan trum by throwing his cellphone to the ground. Bad move: his meltdown was captured on tape. So just how did ABC get such a big jump? The network refused com ment, but insiders credit ABC News chief David Westin. Apparently, work ing the phones produces better results than throwing them.

CNN's John King needs to sit in timeout for a little while.

 

[namike]

Remember Carter's fireside chats? Lounging around in his blue jeans, telling americans to put away them credit cards, don't buy anything. He was like some heehaw throwback. Reagan brought some integrity back to the WH.

uhh...no.......uhhh..not the wrong thread...i was adding to the post above me, where he mentions "to put away them credit cards, dont buy anything." Last time i checked intrest rates had something to do with credit, at least i thought....uhhh

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: gsaldivar

MANCHESTER music legend Morrissey sparked controversy when he announced Ronald Reagan's death live on stage during a concert - and then declared he wished it was George Bush who had died instead.

Wow.....

What a total retard.


I think one of the comments on the Manchester UK forums says it best:

One of the many reasons Ronald Reagan is such a beloved figure in America is that he would've never engaged in such sophomoric and hateful rhetoric, especially concerning someone who had just passed away. Reagan's optimism, kindness and humor lifted America - and the world - to new heights...

When Morrissey dies, most Americans will refrain from stooping to his level by making cruel remarks. Instead, almost all Americans will just have blank expressions on their faces as they ask the same question I asked when I first saw this story: "Who's Morrissey?"

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LOL:laugh: Morrisey should stick to topics he knows..Music and Hair Dressers on Fire