reading new york times article on Chrome, every apostrophe appears as a question mark

Muse

Lifer
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Can't figure out what this is about, but it's annoying because, well, practically every sentence has an apostrophe, and instead of that I see a blackness with a white question mark.

What could this be about and how can I fix it?
 

Muse

Lifer
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It's not online, it's an attachment. I subscribe to the NY Times online. The article came as an attachment in an email this morning:

Subject: The one word that defines Biden’s presidency so far
From: Frank Bruni <nytdirect@nytimes.com>

Sample screen shot:
Clip from NYT attachment.jpg
 

sdifox

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The font is extra :p

what kind of attachment? PDF? I thin PDF viewers has option to substitute fonts.
 

Red Squirrel

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www.betteroff.ca
I get that on one of my websites that pulls data from another source, it seems that some quotes, commas etc that use a different encoding than normal ones, and some computers don't like that. Encoding is a weird thing I will never quite understand myself.
 

IronWing

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I get that on one of my websites that pulls data from another source, it seems that some quotes, commas etc that use a different encoding than normal ones, and some computers don't like that. Encoding is a weird thing I will never quite understand myself.
Microsoft Office offers "smart" quotes that use different glyphs for opening and closing quotation marks. It also f's with the apostrophe (single quote) glyph. It also uses five different versions of the hyphen, four of which are unsearchable.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Dang. If I'm missing a font, I will they'd tell me what I need, I could probably find and install it.

Well, I have no idea what kind of attachment it is, there's no indication it's a PDF or something I can save even. Here's part of the raw message :D :

To: Muse
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From: Frank Bruni <nytdirect@nytimes.com>
date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:59:02 -0500

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IronWing

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Font looks like Georgia serif. It’s typical bloated Microsoft auto generated garbage can html. I can tell by the pixels. Microsoft can turn what should be a simple 5k html document into a 300k unreadable mess.
 

Muse

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OP, are you running Windows? Which version?
Windows 10 64bit, OS build 19041.746

Georgia's installed by default. I could find no "Georgia Serif" at MS store. I did install Georgia Pro, but the problem persists. I just chatted at NYT website and the CSR said he'd forward my info to their tech team.
 

Ajay

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Microsoft Office offers "smart" quotes that use different glyphs for opening and closing quotation marks. It also f's with the apostrophe (single quote) glyph. It also uses five different versions of the hyphen, four of which are unsearchable.
LOL! Thank God I don't use MS software very often (except when I had to provide limited support for it, always hated those tickets).
 

snoopy7548

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Yeah I� ve had that happen before. It� s pretty annoying, and I don� t know if there� s an easy way to fix it.
 
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ultimatebob

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I'd start by switching to a browser that isn't tracking your every move and selling it to a giant ad network :)

Seriously, though, I don't see this issue in Firefox.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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I'd start by switching to a browser that isn't tracking your every move and selling it to a giant ad network :)

Seriously, though, I don't see this issue in Firefox.
I stopped using Firefox on this machine a month or two ago because it was slowing down to a crawl. May have something to do with a tab extension I was running on it. But instead of messing around trying to figure out the problem I switched default browsers to Chrome. In any case, NY Times recommends using Chrome with their online edition, so I was running Chrome simultaneously with Firefox. I also have Brave installed, maybe I'll try that, but don't expect it to play nice with NYT Online, but who knows?

Edit: Running the attachment from Brave has the same issue. It's not a URL, what I think the attachment is is an HTML file, the URL looks like this:

file:///C:/0...Attachments/TEMP95.htm