Read The Fine Print

[sportage]

A lot of political ads and political "paid for by" spots are now running to push everything from a candidate, to a theme (i.e. "say no to Obamacare", "say no to cutting medicare", "say no to handing your kids over to the gay couple next door"). All paid for by over night created unknown funded organizations.
These organizations are getting millions from unknown sources.

In many cases one or two people are funding these over night organizations. All possible due to the US Supreme Courts ruling that opened the floodgates to unlimited money flowing to fund these organizations, and from unknown sources. In other words, like Obama said, threatening the very foundation of American politics.
And if Obama was ever right on anything he was dead right on that.

I don't think people realize how serious this is. And how wrong and corrupt the Supreme court was in this ruling.
Because of this, the entire US system of government is about to become owned and operated by person(s) unknown. Basically "fronts" elected into office by twisting and misleading voters into putting these "fronts" into office, to do their bidding.

In my opinion what Justice John Roberts allowed and ruled was no less than treason.
Im shocked he can not be impeached. Is there no way to impeach a chief justice like Roberts for crimes of high treason? In this case, there should be.

if and when these politicians running, funded by raising millions over night from unknown sources, get in power every one of us will pay a very high price by having our own government pulled right out from under us.
At least Al Qaeda attacked us using something we could fight and defend against.
This takeover of our government by unknowns funding "YOUR NAME HERE" organizations just may be the demise of the America as we know it.
Things are about to get a lot worse... Like a thief in the night robbing you blind, so goes our American government.

And little of this has been covered the media or press.
That alone might suggest it's too late...

When you see these ads and tv spots, make note of the fine print. Look up and google just what that funding organization is behind that ad, candidate or tv spot. Who is funding it. But in most cases you will not be able too. Why?
Because Justice Roberts ruled they don't have to tell you... anything.

 

[Lemon law]

Don't blame just Roberts, this country will keep going to hell in a handbasket as long as
the gang of 4 in terms of Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia, can find one swing justice.

Get rid of any one of the 4 and replace them with someone who is rational, and there is a hope SCOTUS will reverse itself.

Until then, no one is safe as long as SCOTUS is in or out of session.

 

[her209]

2012 is going to be awesome. 24/7 campaign ads...

 

[Thump553]

2012 is going to be awesome. 24/7 campaign ads...

What makes you think they will wait until 2012? I predict that by next spring the average rational person will have already seen their fill of political ads, especially the negative ones.

Heck they are even running then for such things as Supreme Court nominations these days (and I mean the nomination phase-before the President even floats a name-much less the confirmation phase).

 

[Craig234]

You're right on. In theory, the people have the defense to not listen to ads paid for by anonymous sources, but in practice, money greatly shifts opinion.

That's one thing in convincing people to drink Coke over Pepsi or water or orange juice, but another when it comes to the wealthy buying the government.

Freedom, economics for the public, war, and much more at are stake over this.

It's no longer 'of the people, by the people, for the people' - more 'against the people'.

 

[Craig234]

What makes you think they will wait until 2012? I predict that by next spring the average rational person will have already seen their fill of political ads, especially the negative ones.

Heck they are even running then for such things as Supreme Court nominations these days (and I mean the nomination phase-before the President even floats a name-much less the confirmation phase).

For example on money in judicial elections.

Remember the guy who owns the mines that had the disaster, who is a far-right political person, who it came out has a terrible safety record?

The same guy had lost a lawsuit and owed $50 and knew it was going to the appeals court next, during an election cycle for the appeals court.

He put $3 million into the judicial election, and got the incumbent elected out, and his candidate to replace him - and the guy was the swing vote on the appeal in the mine owner's favor reversing the $50 million decision. The $3 million paid for a major hatchet job attacking the incumbent.

And our right supports the use of money this way that brings corruption.

The US Supreme Court did step in and overrule the West Virginia court on the grounds that this justice should have recused himself (he refused) - but the US Supreme Court decision was another 5-4 decision with the same four radical right-wing judges opposing it, saying 'no problem' for this corruption.

 

[xj0hnx]

Yea because it's only republicans doing it

 

[sportage]

Wow.. Thanks! That was fast...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...ment-chief-justice-john-roberts_n_771431.html

 

[Lemon law]

Turn off your TV, turn off your radio, don't go to church, and you too may find God.

They can air all the expensive paid ads they want, but they can't force me to watch or listen to drivel. See no evil, hear no evil, is available in a cave near you. Tune in, turn off, and think for your self for a damn change.

As my Daddy always told me, the fine fine print is never there to protect your rights or my rights. What are those bastards up to? Be skeptical, very skeptical, they are up to no good no doubt.

But But But, those bastards can't convince us to screw ourselves unless we vote to be collectively screwed.

 

[sportage]

But what I find strange and interesting are these "tea party" candidates
being funded by millions from ????. Candidates so dumb as to not know Supreme Court cases, believe in science, or have the ability to chew gum and walk at the same time.
Why would anyone pump ka-millions into electing these people?
Unless.... .... .... .... ....

 

[WildHorse]

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[BoomerD]

The USSC is merely the corporations tool to take the USA away from "We the People" and give it to "We the Corporations."

We've been sold out by the very government branch that was supposed to protect the Constitution.

 

[IGBT]

the chinese are funding the obama's agenda/bailouts. how do you feel about that??

 

[Craig234]

The USSC is merely the corporations tool to take the USA away from "We the People" and give it to "We the Corporations."

We've been sold out by the very government branch that was supposed to protect the Constitution.

One of the issues we agree on - by a 5-4 decision. I said for these justices that they were extremely important in a bad way for the country when they were nominated...

 

[nobodyknows]

One of the issues we agree on - by a 5-4 decision. I said for these justices that they were extremely important in a bad way for the country when they were nominated...

They are all coporate whores, whether they lean left, right, or center.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Yea because it's only republicans doing it

Tracking ads this past week (yes, nothing else to do); over 2/3 of the attack ads here in the Denver area for US Senate (Buck-R vs Bennett-D*) attacking Buck are NOT endorsed by Bennett. Only one ad has been positive for Bennett from a group (hunters).

The same attack ratio also holds for Buck.

All sides are taking advantage of the ability to pump money/ads that no one can be held accountable for.

*incumbent appointed in '08

 

[nobodyknows]

Tracking ads this past week (yes, nothing else to do); over 2/3 of the attack ads here in the Denver area for US Senate (Buck-R vs Bennett-D*) attacking Buck are NOT endorsed by Bennett. Only one ad has been positive for Bennett from a group (hunters).

The same attack ratio also holds for Buck.

All sides are taking advantage of the ability to pump money/ads that no one can be held accountable for.

*incumbent appointed in '08

After what the "Swift Boat liars for the truth" got away with, why shouldn't they.

 

[dmcowen674]

The USSC is merely the corporations tool to take the USA away from "We the People" and give it to "We the Corporations."

We've been sold out by the very government branch that was supposed to protect the Constitution.

and it will lead to a Revolution in America once enough people are so negatively impacted.

 

[BoomerD]

and it will lead to a Revolution in America once enough people are so negatively impacted.

I just don't see that ever happening. We Americans are just too damned complacent. As long as American Idol, Survivor, and the rest of our television programs are still on, no one will care too much...Sure, we'll bitch and complain, but when it comes to actually DOING something...not gonna happen.

Don't count on anything being done via the ballot box either...the average American can barely remember what he/she had for breakfast, let alone how badly the previous party in power fucked things up...all they know is what the talking heads and current commercials tells them on a daily basis...and they only remember the bits they want to remember...

 

[glenn1]

I wonder if the progressives bemoaning this decision as over-reach now have an understanding of the reasoning for complaints from conservatives about Roe v. Wade on exactly the same grounds. Basically the right has learned the lessons that progressives taught on judicial activism (and such things as Borking a candidate) and improved on the left's own game.

 

[PeshakJang]

the chinese are funding the obama's agenda/bailouts. how do you feel about that??

It's true. Idiots like Craig refuse to produce any evidence that it isn't happening.

 

[ElFenix]

http://www.yalelawjournal.org/the-y...tutional-law/citizens-united-and-its-critics/



turn off your tv. you'll be a lot healthier for it.

 

[spidey07]

OP and all the leftists don't like the SC decision because it was a ruling in favor of free speech, that's why it was ruled unconstitutional. You can't tell me or anybody else what political ads one can or cannot run.

Typical freedom of speech as long as you agree with me mentality of democrats and tyrants.

 

[Craig234]

http://www.yalelawjournal.org/the-y...tutional-law/citizens-united-and-its-critics/



turn off your tv. you'll be a lot healthier for it.

He makes some good points. In particular, the government was very weak on drawing the lines, having a good, sensible approach, and Roberts, who I view as evil, was right in his challenge to the government position that the argument the law had never been applied to books was inadequate protection because we don't just trust first amendment rights to bureaucrats.

But what this author and others on his side miss is the larger issue of the corruption of money that can destroy democracy.

It says, 'that vote thing you give every citizen to give them power they don't have without it against the concentrated powers - we're going to in effect undo that.'

His closing statement that he just looks at the Citizens United video and says 'now if the first amendment wasn't designed to protect that, what was it for' shows this clearly.

He is clueless - despite referencing it in his beginning comment - about the corruption of money by the few in democracy, that money is not speech. That's dangerous.

The supported of Citizens v. United have some good legal points, but a lack of the real issue being understood, in looking to protect democracy from destruction by money.

What we need isn't the right's embrace of the destruction of democracy, but an improved, constitutional protection for both democracy and 'free speech'.

Disclosure is a very basic start towards that - and Republicans oppose even that small measure (now - they supported it years ago).

I'd have a lot more sympathy for the right's support of Citizens if they added 'but while I support the decision, I oppose the domination of our politics by money'. Don't hear that.

 

[Craig234]

I wonder if the progressives bemoaning this decision as over-reach now have an understanding of the reasoning for complaints from conservatives about Roe v. Wade on exactly the same grounds. Basically the right has learned the lessons that progressives taught on judicial activism (and such things as Borking a candidate) and improved on the left's own game.

Well that's pretty idiotic IMO, lumping any decision you think interprets the constitution a way you don't like together, with a gratuitous pot shot at 'Borking'.

You take the pot shot without any substance, ignoring the many very good reasons you are likely ignorant of why it was definitely a good idea to vote against Bork.

Instead, the childish right just makes a word and spread the myth it was an injustice they need revenge for. Like they had to impeach Clinton to 'get even for the injustice to Nixon'.

Yes, many on the right admitted that was actually a motive in their impeachment of Bill Clinton on very specious allegations.