Re: Hackintoshes

[AtlantaBob]

Dear Mods:

I really do appreciate what you've done with the forum and how well you've kept the crap out.

That being said, I've recently tried to find some information about a Hackintosh. There are some OLD threads with thousands of views and comments, but nothing that's clearly up to date. I realize that you need to keep a balance between posting and frequency of updates. Would you please consider updating the Hackintosh thread every quarter or so? Or, OP of the Hackintosh thread (Kaido), would you consider posting a new thread every 3 months? It's hard to sort through 166 pages to find the info you need.

Thanks.

We're not the ones doing anything, so it's up to the people who post. In this case yes, you probably want to talk to Kaido.

-ViRGE

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: AtlantaBob
Dear Mods:

I really do appreciate what you've done with the forum and how well you've kept the crap out.

That being said, I've recently tried to find some information about a Hackintosh. There are some OLD threads with thousands of views and comments, but nothing that's clearly up to date. I realize that you need to keep a balance between posting and frequency of updates. Would you please consider updating the Hackintosh thread every quarter or so? Or, OP of the Hackintosh thread (Kaido), would you consider posting a new thread every 3 months? It's hard to sort through 166 pages to find the info you need.

Thanks.

Have you perchance started a thread asking questions in order to get the information you want? Everytime in the past that I have had a question about my Hack, that is route that I have taken and it has netted me some good results.

 

[silverpig]

forums.insanelymac.com

 

[SKORPI0]

http://www.infinitemac.com/

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: AtlantaBob
Dear Mods:

I really do appreciate what you've done with the forum and how well you've kept the crap out.

That being said, I've recently tried to find some information about a Hackintosh. There are some OLD threads with thousands of views and comments, but nothing that's clearly up to date. I realize that you need to keep a balance between posting and frequency of updates. Would you please consider updating the Hackintosh thread every quarter or so? Or, OP of the Hackintosh thread (Kaido), would you consider posting a new thread every 3 months? It's hard to sort through 166 pages to find the info you need.

Thanks.

We're not the ones doing anything, so it's up to the people who post. In this case yes, you probably want to talk to Kaido.

-ViRGE

You've discovered the primary problem with the Hackintosh: disorganization. There's no central controller or committee in charge of anything, so finding up-to-date stuff is extremely hard. InsanelyMac is about the best you're going to get currently. If you really want to keep up on Hackintosh, then you really need to make it your hobby - that's because, as mentioned, there's no centralized body to keep things up-to-date, so the job is up to you on an individual level. It stinks, but until somebody wants to do it full-time, for free, I don't think it's going to change, unfortunately.

I'd love to post more! However, I have time constraints: full-time college + 2 jobs + wife + my own startup. Sleep? What's that? I love toying with Hackintosh stuff, but my previous thread is like over a year old, so as you can see I don't update that often. And when I do update, it's primarily for the boards that *I* own - to make a really good guide, driver package, and stable system, it takes a lot of time, and if I don't have a board or system in front of me, that takes about 10x as long (reboot, test, reboot, test, etc. etc.).

So your post is a bit on the naive side (not bashing, just educating): no one is "in charge" of Hackintosh, therefore it's a mess. The OSx86 Wiki was a good idea, but it's not updated regularly. My threads are more or less just sharing the basics of what I've learned plus linking my guides & drivers to download. I've got a blog and twitter where I post mini-updates, if you're interested in that (not so much for September 09 since I've been out of town), but to get really into Hackintosh, it needs to become a personal research project. HTH clarify things

 

[umrigar]

does the LeopardSoup site require an account now?

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: umrigar
does the LeopardSoup site require an account now?

No it's just down for upgrades. It'll be back up in October.

 

[aphex]

I'd be happy to update the thread, but I'm about a knowledgeable as a sack of peanuts on the subject

 

[AtlantaBob]

First, thanks, all for the updates and references. I'll definitely take a look at them. On first glance, they definitely look promising.

TheStu, I would definitely consider posting a comment if I had a specific inquiry about a given MB/CPU/etc. The folks here are great at answering questions. I was just curious about the recent (affordable) state-of-the-art, and didn't want to bug folks with a "design me a Hackintosh" question -- that's particularly true when I was just sort of idly wondering "what kind of machine could I get for $xxx," rather than intending on buying one today.

Kaido, I certainly appreciate the work you've put into it -- I just hope that you're able to work in a nap sometime on Sunday afternoons! And I certainly understand where you're coming from saying that the post is a little on the naive side. Would be nice if we could get someone with a few less responsibilities to do something like a Hackintosh of the quarter article (AnandTech used to do that, I suppose that ArsTechnica still does that with their budget box, mid-range, etc.) Oh well. Not sure that I'm the person to do it, as I don't know anything about them, but I'm willing to try to help. That being said, I didn't see any links to your blog or twitter in your profile or original post (and Kaido on Twitter doesn't seem to be you). If you'd PM me (or post) the links, I would be grateful.

I think that it's a little ironic that you said that you need to make Hackintosh a hobby -- just 'cause it seems like that's a large part of the reason people move to OS X. I have enough of a hobby keeping a Linux box at work running! But I suppose that's what happens when we have more expectations of out software/hardware than money to spend on it.

Thanks again guys for all that you do.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: aphex
I'd be happy to update the thread, but I'm about a knowledgeable as a sack of peanuts on the subject

It's okay, you have to be a little nuts to do Hackintosh

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: AtlantaBob
First, thanks, all for the updates and references. I'll definitely take a look at them. On first glance, they definitely look promising.

TheStu, I would definitely consider posting a comment if I had a specific inquiry about a given MB/CPU/etc. The folks here are great at answering questions. I was just curious about the recent (affordable) state-of-the-art, and didn't want to bug folks with a "design me a Hackintosh" question -- that's particularly true when I was just sort of idly wondering "what kind of machine could I get for $xxx," rather than intending on buying one today.

Kaido, I certainly appreciate the work you've put into it -- I just hope that you're able to work in a nap sometime on Sunday afternoons! And I certainly understand where you're coming from saying that the post is a little on the naive side. Would be nice if we could get someone with a few less responsibilities to do something like a Hackintosh of the quarter article (AnandTech used to do that, I suppose that ArsTechnica still does that with their budget box, mid-range, etc.) Oh well. Not sure that I'm the person to do it, as I don't know anything about them, but I'm willing to try to help. That being said, I didn't see any links to your blog or twitter in your profile or original post (and Kaido on Twitter doesn't seem to be you). If you'd PM me (or post) the links, I would be grateful.

I think that it's a little ironic that you said that you need to make Hackintosh a hobby -- just 'cause it seems like that's a large part of the reason people move to OS X. I have enough of a hobby keeping a Linux box at work running! But I suppose that's what happens when we have more expectations of out software/hardware than money to spend on it.

Thanks again guys for all that you do.

Well, it's more like this: you can follow a guide, and buy the recommend hardware (akin to following a recipe), OR you can select your own hardware, and roll your own guide, so to speak, which is the "hobby" version because of the time investment. The reasons my guides are so popular are because they're plug & play - follow the recipe, get the results. I enjoy keeping them up because it helps me kill bugs and it's fun.

So if all you want is a Hackintosh and then to be done with it, find a good guide (there are ones for boards a lot newer than mine) and follow it. If you want to stay up with the bleeding-edge technology and create a system that nobody has shared a guide on yet, then that's where it gets into the hobby realm. Also remember that Hackintosh and OS X are really two different things - OS X is what you get if you have a successful Hackintosh, haha. But Hackintosh is the art & science of getting OS X onto non-standard parts, which is in and of itself a project. So that's why I say that what you're looking for is more along the hobby lines - latest & greatest info, newest boards, instead of old stuff. Nobody really organizes it because no one is paid to, and there's alway so much new stuff it's hard for someone to keep up with it for free. Even InsanelyMac, the unofficially HQ of Hackintosh, rarely does updates on their main page.

Honestly, I didn't intend to become the "guide master" of Hackintosh, it just sorta happened lol. I couldn't afford the $7,200 Mac Pro at the time, so instead I built the same thing for $1,800 with a Hackintosh and posted my results. The rest, as they say, is history lol

 

[KeypoX]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: AtlantaBob
Dear Mods:

I really do appreciate what you've done with the forum and how well you've kept the crap out.

That being said, I've recently tried to find some information about a Hackintosh. There are some OLD threads with thousands of views and comments, but nothing that's clearly up to date. I realize that you need to keep a balance between posting and frequency of updates. Would you please consider updating the Hackintosh thread every quarter or so? Or, OP of the Hackintosh thread (Kaido), would you consider posting a new thread every 3 months? It's hard to sort through 166 pages to find the info you need.

Thanks.

We're not the ones doing anything, so it's up to the people who post. In this case yes, you probably want to talk to Kaido.

-ViRGE

You've discovered the primary problem with the Hackintosh: disorganization. There's no central controller or committee in charge of anything, so finding up-to-date stuff is extremely hard. InsanelyMac is about the best you're going to get currently. If you really want to keep up on Hackintosh, then you really need to make it your hobby - that's because, as mentioned, there's no centralized body to keep things up-to-date, so the job is up to you on an individual level. It stinks, but until somebody wants to do it full-time, for free, I don't think it's going to change, unfortunately.

Ain't that the truth... much easier when someone does all the leg work for ya