RCA HDTV tuner-only $110 at buy.com

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videopho

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any new hdtv set sold in 06 will have atsc tuner built in and it is the law.
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: videopho
any new hdtv set sold in 06 will have atsc tuner built in and it is the law.


soo....massive sale on December 31st to get rid of all HDTV "ready" tvs?
 

dclive

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Originally posted by: videopho
any new hdtv set sold in 06 will have atsc tuner built in and it is the law.

Do you mean 'sold' or 'made'? Can you share any details or URLs to the law?
 

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if you live within 30 to 50 miles from the signal source, may I suggest the Zenith Silver Sensor indoor antenna? I live in Upland near Los Angleles. 28 miles away from Mount Wilson. I get 100% signal strenth on every single channel. It drops to 95 or 97 once a while.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: dclive
Originally posted by: videopho
any new hdtv set sold in 06 will have atsc tuner built in and it is the law.

Do you mean 'sold' or 'made'? Can you share any details or URLs to the law?

I'm guessing manufactured or made in 2006.
 

videopho

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: dclive
Originally posted by: videopho
any new hdtv set sold in 06 will have atsc tuner built in and it is the law.

Do you mean 'sold' or 'made'? Can you share any details or URLs to the law?

I'm guessing manufactured or made in 2006.

sorry for the confusion. The set made in 06 will have ATSC bult-in. I believe the law may have applied to the 05 set but not enforced due to the roll back date of analog tv or known as NTSC (Never The Same Color:eek:) to 2008 I think where all brodcasting stations nation wide will turn off their switches on it.
Thanks to those who help clarify too.
 

dwopks

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bump for:

UglyWolf or anyone who has this receiver: when you use this HDTV receiver with the included DVI-VGA cable to connect to a regular computer CRT monitor/LCD - do you really get a HDTV-like picture on the monitor?

I already have an ATI HDTV Wonder connected to my computer LCD monitor and it gives a "true HDTV-like" picture - in my uneducated and inexperienced opinion.

Will this HDTV receiver connected to an ordinary computer LCD give "true HDTV" viewing?
If so, it would make for a cheap HDTV combo - if you already had a nice sized 19" or 20" computer LCD...

Thanks in advance for your response.

dwopks.
 

dclive

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I have it attached to a relative's 50" Toshiba 4:3 SDTV. It looks great, with a great picture, but it isn't HDTV. The *quality* is excellent, but it's only 480i.

It's still vastly better than OTA SDTV, albeit just for the 5 channels this unit picks up over the air. We'll look at getting a better antenna, and align it as antennaweb suggests.
 

timswim78

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This could possibly be the best $100 AV investment that a person could make. I bought an HDTV tuner, and I get about 14 stations with an indoor antenna. The quality blows digital cable out of the water, and I am only running it on an old fashioned (480P) television.
 

videopho

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i got mine in last night. temporarily hooked it up to one of my monitors, a dell 2005fpw by using dvi out from the tuner. within 10minutes of tuning and setup. voila! got all local channels and smalville on wb looks fantastic in 1080i. start to look for a 30ish-inc lcd hdtv-rdy where this little wonder will be put to work. cheapest hdtv tuner money can buy today that works wonder. highly recommend.
 

dwopks

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Videopho, I'm not really familiar with the dell 2005fpw, but from what I've read, it seems like it is a high-end *COMPUTER* LCD monitor that is optimized for use with computer TV graphics cards. So is it safe to assume that I can get nearly the same 1080i signal on my "normal" computer 19" LCD with DVI connector? - or even on my 19" VGA monitor after using the included DVI-to-VGA adapter?

TIA for any additional info.

dwopks.

Originally posted by: videopho
i got mine in last night. temporarily hooked it up to one of my monitors, a dell 2005fpw by using dvi out from the tuner. within 10minutes of tuning and setup. voila! got all local channels and smalville on wb looks fantastic in 1080i. start to look for a 30ish-inc lcd hdtv-rdy where this little wonder will be put to work. cheapest hdtv tuner money can buy today that works wonder. highly recommend.

 

videopho

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Videopho, I'm not really familiar with the dell 2005fpw, but from what I've read, it seems like it is a high-end *COMPUTER* LCD monitor that is optimized for use with computer TV graphics cards. So is it safe to assume that I can get nearly the same 1080i signal on my "normal" computer 19" LCD with DVI connector? - or even on my 19" VGA monitor after using the included DVI-to-VGA adapter?


dwopks
yes your assumption is valid. you have no problem with either display of your choice.
 

chanfo

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As long as manufacturer market the tv as a monitor they do not have to put a tuner in it. Don't count on all LCD and plasma tv's to have a tuner. They will just market them as a hdtv monitor.
 

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I read somewhere that HD through dish or digital cable compresses the signal, and because of that over the air HD gives a better picture. For those of you who have both, is it a noticeable difference?


 

aceO07

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How many people got their units? How many people have it 'On Order'?

grrr.. It's been 'Sent to warehouse' for a week and now it's 'On Order'. They've also raised the price on their website so I can't cancel and use a 10% coupon on it. =P
 

nnnyyy

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Originally posted by: aceO07
How many people got their units? How many people have it 'On Order'?

grrr.. It's been 'Sent to warehouse' for a week and now it's 'On Order'. They've also raised the price on their website so I can't cancel and use a 10% coupon on it. =P

Mine has been shipped. I didnt in on the intial offering as it sold out. I placed my order on the 24th, when it came back instock.
 

brucekatz

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Originally posted by: Teetu
I read somewhere that HD through dish or digital cable compresses the signal, and because of that over the air HD gives a better picture. For those of you who have both, is it a noticeable difference?

Absoulately!!! PBS's are especially beautiful. Local HD channels look so good even on regular TV set, it makes many wonder why paid satellite and cable any more? We own LG, Voom (Motorola), USdigital, Samsung and RCA (same as in this post). Check Antennaweb.org to see how many stations in your area; and, if you can get your box locally, it will be easy to return if it does not work out for you (before 2009, some stations' signals will be so weak, it may not worth your trouble this time.)


 

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Originally posted by: videopho

sorry for the confusion. The set made in 06 will have ATSC bult-in. I believe the law may have applied to the 05 set but not enforced due to the roll back date of analog tv or known as NTSC (Never The Same Color:eek:) to 2008 I think where all brodcasting stations nation wide will turn off their switches on it.
Thanks to those who help clarify too.


Only if it's technically a "TV". IIRC, some of the 1080p 37" LCD sets (I believe the Westinghouse one at least) don't include a tuner at all, and therefore are not technically "TVs," but rather very large low (for the space) res. monitors. The fact that they're generally marketed as TVs has nothing to do with it.
 

aceO07

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Mine still hasn't shipped. I ordered on 12/21/05. :p That's messed up if people who ordered later than me got their item.

Email from buy.com:
"Just a note to let you know that we are still working hard on filling your order
#XXXXXXX.
We have placed an urgent order with our suppliers and are waiting on the
backordered or preordered product(s) below."
 

rich644

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I read somewhere that HD through dish or digital cable compresses the signal, and because of that over the air HD gives a better picture. For those of you who have both, is it a noticeable difference?
High definition video uses about six times the bandwidth of SD video. There is limited band width on cable systems and sat transponders. So compression must usually be employed.
I have tried both cabe, satellite and OTA sources of HD
Over the air video is dramatically more vibrant and detailed. You are getting the signal directly from the source with no intermediaries or compression. The best of all , there is no monthly fee.

I live about 45 miles from the transmitters in my area, after trying out a few models of antennas, found the best results with the DB4 UHF bowtie from Antennas Direct. www.antennasdirect.com
 

videopho

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I ordered mine on 12/20/05 and got it two days later. Opened it then temporarily hooked it up to my 2005fpw (using DVI) and tested it with a cheap Terk bar shaped like antenna. It worked like a dream. It tuned in all DTV stations where I live. All 1080i or 720p materials showed in sharp and vibrant color pictures. I since then had it back in the box and waiting to buy a new, bigger lcd tv (that may never comes due to short of cash) for it. I may end up selling it.