Razer Tiamat 7.1 has been released!!

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Remobz

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http://www.razerzone.com/tiamat/en


This is not exactly hot off the press, but Razers new 7.1 gaming headphones have finally been released a few days ago.

I am waiting for official reviews and customer feed backs before I purchase one. On youtube people have been showing previews and unboxing videos of their new headphones as well.


Anyone in the market for a new gaming headphones might want to check this one out, but please wait for more reviews and feed back to come in before buying:)


Cheers.........
 
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Definitely want reviews. I enjoy the virtual surround provided by the Dolby Headphones software and my G35 cans, but would be willing to get true surround, provided it is a better sound experience. I've heard many say the G35 is better than the other multi-driver cans they've used, but in all fairness I've never had any experience with them, only having read reviews (which also showcased mediocre impressions).
That, and it's Razer. While I love my BlackWidow Ultimate Stealth mech board, I [and many others] have had enough lackluster products (build quality and software/hardware issues/"glitches?" - though performance tends to be top-notch, definitely have to give them credit where credit is due) that I am very hesitant with them anymore.

But if there is major praise that speaks to the hardware standing up to time and delivering better audio... well hell, I'll pick them up.

Then again, looking at the hardware spec sheet, I've got to call major bullshit. Every single driver is capable of 20Hz-20KHz? Ha. If that's true, there will be major issues across a few frequency ranges: surrounds don't need to hit that low,and you get better performance at mid/high frequencies if you have drivers not needing to pump that low; especially true if you have dedicated LFE drivers.
:hmm: Again, reviews are absolutely necessary. ;)
 
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i really don't think these headsets actually work. there's simply not enough separation between the drivers' placements to give enough angle for audio cues to pick up.

i've used razer's earlier multi-driver surround sound headset, the barracuda HP1. it featured multiple drivers for a 5.1 setup. it never actually worked as intended. well, it did technically work, simply because the drivers for "surround" sounded different than the ones for left and right, which allowed me to separate front and back from their differing sound signatures. it had never actually simulated any surround sound field at all.
 
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I rarely game with a headset. How does a 5.1 speaker setup compare to a 5.1 headset? or in this case, this 7.1 headset?
 
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I wonder how the designers of the "surround" headsets keep themselves motivated when stereo just continues to be better.
 
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Pia said:
I wonder how the designers of the "surround" headsets keep themselves motivated when stereo just continues to be better.
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The margins are better. Just throw a lot of low quality components and label it gaming. Most things that are labeled gaming are pretty crappy.

I mean look at all the threads about gaming keyboards. A type FAT from the early 80s is better than most gaming keyboards today.
 
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imported_Computer MAn said:
Random question: Does USB have enough bandwidth to transmit 7 discrete channels?
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I would imagine it depends on actual bitrate and codec, but technically, USB 2.0 has plenty of bandwidth for discrete 7.1 audio - but not max bitrates available. Same with USB 3.0 iirc, it has a massive bitrate potential but you can crank out discrete uncompressed audio at higher bitrate than USB 3.0 can support. For all intents and purposes, absolutely possibly over 3.0 - provided the hardware is doing some legwork.

I could be way off base, so... don't hold that as an expert answer. ;)


However, the point is mute for the Tiamat cans. They use use 3.5mm jacks, and a USB connector for power.
You made me look up the connectors, because I too was curious on that. Damn, that doesn't work for my usage scenario... so in the event these turn out to be amazing, they are basically useless for me. I already have my 3.5mm jacks taken up by the speaker surround setup, headphones aren't used exclusively.
 
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destrekor said:
However, the point is mute for the Tiamat cans. They use use 3.5mm jacks, and a USB connector for power.
You made me look up the connectors, because I too was curious on that. Damn, that doesn't work for my usage scenario... so in the event these turn out to be amazing, they are basically useless for me. I already have my 3.5mm jacks taken up by the speaker surround setup, headphones aren't used exclusively.
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I looked briefly online and saw the USB connector so I assumed that's what they were using, I guess I should have looked a little harder then.
 
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destrekor said:
I would imagine it depends on actual bitrate and codec, but technically, USB 2.0 has plenty of bandwidth for discrete 7.1 audio - but not max bitrates available. Same with USB 3.0 iirc, it has a massive bitrate potential but you can crank out discrete uncompressed audio at higher bitrate than USB 3.0 can support. For all intents and purposes, absolutely possibly over 3.0 - provided the hardware is doing some legwork.

I could be way off base, so... don't hold that as an expert answer. ;)


However, the point is mute for the Tiamat cans. They use use 3.5mm jacks, and a USB connector for power.
You made me look up the connectors, because I too was curious on that. Damn, that doesn't work for my usage scenario... so in the event these turn out to be amazing, they are basically useless for me. I already have my 3.5mm jacks taken up by the speaker surround setup, headphones aren't used exclusively.
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There is an adapter that allows you to connect speakers and headsets to your soundcard at the same time. This is a link to one offered by turtle beach. I've seen something similar on monoprice (and other sites) but can't find them at the moment.
http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/pc-gaming-headsets/ear-force-z6a.aspx

Z6A 5.1 Splitter Cable

3 stereo 3.5mm phone plugs (color-coded green, black and orange) connect to your surround sound capable soundcard, while two sets of matching stereo 3.5mm phone jacks (female) allow you to keep your Ear Force surround headphones and your surround speaker system connected at all times.
 
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I have a turtle beach z6a that has true 5.1 with the 3.5mm connectors and I loved them... unfortunately the headset hinges right above the cans are plastic and the right side just cracked/broked 10 minutes ago when I tried putting them on :'( - and I take really good care of these headsets too... so I'm in a new market for headsets if Turtle Beach warranty/RMA gets funny on me - I've owned these headsets for less than 60 days too...

Anyhow these RAZRs look good and I'm looking forward to reviews...
 
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Destiny said:
I have a turtle beach z6a that has true 5.1 with the 3.5mm connectors and I loved them... unfortunately the headset hinges right above the cans are plastic and the right side just cracked/broked 10 minutes ago when I tried putting them on :'( - and I take really good care of these headsets too... so I'm in a new market for headsets if Turtle Beach warranty/RMA gets funny on me - I've owned these headsets for less than 60 days too...

Anyhow these RAZRs look good and I'm looking forward to reviews...
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So far, the Razer Tiamat looks like a winner in most categories. Of course, I will wait a couple months until much more reviews come in for a final decision.

Besides, Razer is having supply problems.

Oh and if anyone finds a review please feel free to post a link here. Please post your personal reviews if you own one as well. Thanks.
 
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I'm in the market for a new gaming headset. The last pair I had was the Logitech G35. The earpads/speaker part is attached to the headband by a piece of plastic and with kids in the house who constantly grab and knock things over...at least my Grado 295i is made of metal and can take a beating as well as sound great.
 
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I preordered mine yesterday from the egg. I've been using beats dr dre studio noise cancelling headphones for the past year and the head band has cracked in 3 different places not to mention having to use a separate mic. Before that I was using the triton dolby's and they aren't durable either. I'm hoping that the razor's sturdier appearance translates to durability.
 
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If the hidges or the parts above the cans they will break overtime... I have the Turtle beach Z6a and the parts above the cans have cracked or broken off twice and I am in the process of sending them back for the second time for RMA... the screws on plastic are not cutting it and I take good care of them too...:'(
 
destrekor

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So this connects to the analog jacks. What about us who already have a surround system connected to the audio jacks?
And is that connector box breakaway-capable? I don't feel like leaving headsets connected 24/7, but disconnected and reconnecting are not feasible with my setup. It takes too much work to reach the back connections of my tower where I have it.
 
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I would love to get a pair, but every surround-sound headset I've tried has sounded like shit (admittedly as a musician I'm likely a bit tougher critic than most). Hopefully these will be the exception, rather than the rule.
 
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