Razer + Mac = Fail?

[Lazy8s]

My bro is using his Razer Death Adder on his mac and it's TERRIBLE! It moves faster in the Y direction than any other, when he makes large movements the mouse races across the screen but if he moves at a normal speed the mouse crawls across the screen at an unusably slow rate. He has turned the mouse sensitivity almost all of the way up but the movement discrepency has stayed. It is so bad I was unable to even navigate the OS to use the internet before I gave up. Have any of you used the Razer Pro v1.6? It seems to be Razer's only Mac-compatible mouse. Note, his mac is doing the same thing with a vanilla Microsoft Intellipoint mouse.

 

[erikistired]

install the drivers?

 

[Kaido]

iirc my Copperhead worked just fine. Try installing SteerMouse!

 

[Lazy8s]

Originally posted by: fisher
install the drivers?

If they make them I'll get right on that!!

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Kaido
iirc my Copperhead worked just fine. Try installing SteerMouse!

SteerMouse may do the trick, another option is USB Overdrive. I do find it odd that you're having issues with the MS mouse though, my Intellimouse Optical has no such issues without the MS drivers, although I do install them anyhow to get better configuration control over the extra buttons. Perhaps you're just not accustomed to mouse acceleration?

 

[Lazy8s]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Kaido
iirc my Copperhead worked just fine. Try installing SteerMouse!

SteerMouse may do the trick, another option is USB Overdrive. I do find it odd that you're having issues with the MS mouse though, my Intellimouse Optical has no such issues without the MS drivers, although I do install them anyhow to get better configuration control over the extra buttons. Perhaps you're just not accustomed to mouse acceleration?

Perhaps, mouse acceleration doesn't mean it gets faster the faster you move it though. In windows it just moves a flat x% faster all of the time. Does mac do it differently?

 

[rickeo]

Using a DeathAdder on my 10.5.2 system just fine. There is something wrong on his end. Install Razer ProClick 1.6 from Razers site. See whats up then.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s

Originally posted by: fisher
install the drivers?

If they make them I'll get right on that!!

that mouse is supposed to be supported, so they should. i agree that it's odd you're having issues, because i've used a few mice without problems with no drivers (not a razer tho). i'd at least give it a run, if not, maybe there's something else going on.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Kaido
iirc my Copperhead worked just fine. Try installing SteerMouse!

SteerMouse may do the trick, another option is USB Overdrive. I do find it odd that you're having issues with the MS mouse though, my Intellimouse Optical has no such issues without the MS drivers, although I do install them anyhow to get better configuration control over the extra buttons. Perhaps you're just not accustomed to mouse acceleration?

Perhaps, mouse acceleration doesn't mean it gets faster the faster you move it though. In windows it just moves a flat x% faster all of the time. Does mac do it differently?

No, the way you first described it is exactly how it works. Fast movements are exaggerated so that you can quickly cross the screen without moving the mouse 5ft off of the pad, while slow movements are exaggerated in the opposite way so that you can use a large amount of space to move the cursor a very small amount, for very high precision.

 

[Lazy8s]

We downloaded USB Overdrive and that....mostly....fixed it. I think it was the acceleration "feature". Man that right there, without a fix, would have been enough to never but a mac ever. Now it turns out (it's a macbook pro) that his microphone on his headset won't work because the line-in isn't suited for mics. Who the f$%& thought this stuff up. Do they not know how people use computers?

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s
We downloaded USB Overdrive and that....mostly....fixed it. I think it was the acceleration "feature". Man that right there, without a fix, would have been enough to never but a mac ever. Now it turns out (it's a macbook pro) that his microphone on his headset won't work because the line-in isn't suited for mics. Who the f$%& thought this stuff up. Do they not know how people use computers?

There is a built in Mic on the MacBook Pro, so why give the option for another Mic i think was the thought process there. I am not saying that I agree with it, but that is the thinking.

As for the mouse issue, OS X and Windows handle mouse tracking about as differently as you can get. I personally feel that OS X's method is ideal for trackpad use, whereas Windows' is better for mouse. That works well for me since I use the trackpad on my macbook, and mouse on my windows gaming box. I haven't plugged a mouse into my macbook in.... um... 6 months+? So i can't really remember how my VX revolution did.

 

[Lazy8s]

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: Lazy8s
We downloaded USB Overdrive and that....mostly....fixed it. I think it was the acceleration "feature". Man that right there, without a fix, would have been enough to never but a mac ever. Now it turns out (it's a macbook pro) that his microphone on his headset won't work because the line-in isn't suited for mics. Who the f$%& thought this stuff up. Do they not know how people use computers?

There is a built in Mic on the MacBook Pro, so why give the option for another Mic i think was the thought process there. I am not saying that I agree with it, but that is the thinking.

As for the mouse issue, OS X and Windows handle mouse tracking about as differently as you can get. I personally feel that OS X's method is ideal for trackpad use, whereas Windows' is better for mouse. That works well for me since I use the trackpad on my macbook, and mouse on my windows gaming box. I haven't plugged a mouse into my macbook in.... um... 6 months+? So i can't really remember how my VX revolution did.

Yeah I know the whole built-in mic which is most likely why but what if it breaks or something, what could be a major selling point is gone. Also, it reduces the ability for people to use skype phones or whatever. I dunno, overall just a bad design decision imo since every other laptop my family owns (VAIO, HP and gateway) all have built in mics and mic jacks. Granted the macbook built-in mic is flippin amazing it still sucks.

In case Apple reads this (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA) the reason you need an external mic jack is because when the fan kicks in (gaming or whatnot) it is almost impossible to hear the person talk. A plugged-in mic could greatly reduce this.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: Lazy8s
We downloaded USB Overdrive and that....mostly....fixed it. I think it was the acceleration "feature". Man that right there, without a fix, would have been enough to never but a mac ever. Now it turns out (it's a macbook pro) that his microphone on his headset won't work because the line-in isn't suited for mics. Who the f$%& thought this stuff up. Do they not know how people use computers?

There is a built in Mic on the MacBook Pro, so why give the option for another Mic i think was the thought process there. I am not saying that I agree with it, but that is the thinking.

As for the mouse issue, OS X and Windows handle mouse tracking about as differently as you can get. I personally feel that OS X's method is ideal for trackpad use, whereas Windows' is better for mouse. That works well for me since I use the trackpad on my macbook, and mouse on my windows gaming box. I haven't plugged a mouse into my macbook in.... um... 6 months+? So i can't really remember how my VX revolution did.

Yeah I know the whole built-in mic which is most likely why but what if it breaks or something, what could be a major selling point is gone. Also, it reduces the ability for people to use skype phones or whatever. I dunno, overall just a bad design decision imo since every other laptop my family owns (VAIO, HP and gateway) all have built in mics and mic jacks. Granted the macbook built-in mic is flippin amazing it still sucks.

In case Apple reads this (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA) the reason you need an external mic jack is because when the fan kicks in (gaming or whatnot) it is almost impossible to hear the person talk. A plugged-in mic could greatly reduce this.

Most people who want mics on a Mac end up using USB.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: Lazy8s
We downloaded USB Overdrive and that....mostly....fixed it. I think it was the acceleration "feature". Man that right there, without a fix, would have been enough to never but a mac ever. Now it turns out (it's a macbook pro) that his microphone on his headset won't work because the line-in isn't suited for mics. Who the f$%& thought this stuff up. Do they not know how people use computers?

There is a built in Mic on the MacBook Pro, so why give the option for another Mic i think was the thought process there. I am not saying that I agree with it, but that is the thinking.

As for the mouse issue, OS X and Windows handle mouse tracking about as differently as you can get. I personally feel that OS X's method is ideal for trackpad use, whereas Windows' is better for mouse. That works well for me since I use the trackpad on my macbook, and mouse on my windows gaming box. I haven't plugged a mouse into my macbook in.... um... 6 months+? So i can't really remember how my VX revolution did.

Yeah I know the whole built-in mic which is most likely why but what if it breaks or something, what could be a major selling point is gone. Also, it reduces the ability for people to use skype phones or whatever. I dunno, overall just a bad design decision imo since every other laptop my family owns (VAIO, HP and gateway) all have built in mics and mic jacks. Granted the macbook built-in mic is flippin amazing it still sucks.

In case Apple reads this (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA) the reason you need an external mic jack is because when the fan kicks in (gaming or whatnot) it is almost impossible to hear the person talk. A plugged-in mic could greatly reduce this.

usb headset works great.

 

[Lazy8s]

Yeah but then you can't use the really nice (sennheiser or medusa type) headsets that we already paid $80-$150 for. It's just irritating to go from windows to mac and have to buy new acessories and/or 3rd party software to support them. Not to mention USB headsets drain battery much faster. Oh well, it's not the end of the world.