Raw Milk

[DaWhim]

I just got a 2 pints from the farmer market.

It is not as creamy as whole milk I can get from the supermarket.

Anyone tried it?

 

[LilPima]

Originally posted by: DaWhim
I just got a 2 pints from the farmer market.

It is not as creamy as whole milk I can get from the supermarket.

Anyone tried it?

Isn't that more illegal than marijuana? (Or at least the transport of it across state lines?) Hurry, hide your IP!

 

[geno]

You just got two creamy pints of raw milk from the farmer?

 

[DaWhim]

Originally posted by: LilPima

Originally posted by: DaWhim
I just got a 2 pints from the farmer market.

It is not as creamy as whole milk I can get from the supermarket.

Anyone tried it?

Isn't that more illegal than marijuana? (Or at least the transport of it across state lines?) Hurry, hide your IP!

No need to hide, i am in london. it is legal here.

 

[EagleKeeper]

chill it and enjoy

 

[Spineshank]

I used to live on a farm..drank it all the time. Much better than pasteurized milk.

 

[DrPizza]

I can't recall seeing raw milk for sale anywhere around here, including farmer's markets. Fortunately, I can just walk out to the barn any time I want some. Goat milk. Higher nutritional value, more easily digested too.

 

[imported_Imp]

We actually have laws against that here. There's a big court battle against a farmer, and his right to sell the milk to fellow "co-op" members.

Never tried it, probably would in very small amounts if I could. A small farmer who believes in his product could probably pull it off safely, but the asswipe out to cash in on the fad would probably screw up a lot of people.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Imp
We actually have laws against that here. There's a big court battle against a farmer, and his right to sell the milk to fellow "co-op" members.

Never tried it, probably would in very small amounts if I could. A small farmer who believes in his product could probably pull it off safely, but the asswipe out to cash in on the fad would probably screw up a lot of people.

yeap. teh milk "cartal" is bad.

It don't matter what brand of milk you buy. it all comes form one of the same places.

you can't milk your cows and sale it. that is against the law. there was a story of a guy who had 50-100 cows. he was milking, pasterizing, and bottling the milk and selling it for %50 of any other milk on the market. well he got sued for it.

a guy down the road has a few hundred heads for milk. Some of the shit he told me was amazing.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: LilPima

Originally posted by: DaWhim
I just got a 2 pints from the farmer market.

It is not as creamy as whole milk I can get from the supermarket.

Anyone tried it?

Isn't that more illegal than marijuana? (Or at least the transport of it across state lines?) Hurry, hide your IP!

It's legal in tons of jurisdictions in the US. I used to get it from a (very) small farm run by Mennonites 5 minutes away, but they closed down two years ago -- for economic not legal reasons.

You brought your own bottle and they filled it. It was a $1.10 a half gallon, and was far creamier than store bought, not to mention tastier.

Raw milk, where it is sold legally, can only be sold by certified cows that are held to a FAR higher health standard than regular herds.

In the 80's, I used to get it from the personal herd of one of the DuPonts. The already bottled gallons and half gallons were left in the cool old stone ex-Spring house on the estate. Nobody was ever around, and you left your money on a stone inside on the honor system.

I now get my milk from a local farm 10 minutes away, but it is pasturized. It is not homogenized, however, so if you let it, the cream will rise to the top. They've risen in price from $1.35 to $1.90 a half gallon over the last couple of years, though.

The best thing about their milk, besides its SAME DAY freshness, is that they use ZERO antibiotics on their herd.

I also remember back in the '70's in California getting raw milk from the Alta-Dena (sic) dairy, who were, even then, in constant legal battles with the authorities regarding their right to sell same.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: waggy
you can't milk your cows and sale it. that is against the law.

Then you ought to come to the Great State of Pennsylvania. Here in our verdant and magnificent Commonwealth, I've been buying milk from local dairies for years and years and years.

And, waggy, honestly, you're a really good guy and I can accept that you can't spell "cartel", but do you truly not know that "sale" is not a verb?

Someone sold you an inferior education, man!

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I can't recall seeing raw milk for sale anywhere around here, including farmer's markets. Fortunately, I can just walk out to the barn any time I want some. Goat milk. Higher nutritional value, more easily digested too.

Pics of you drinking milk in the barn.

Do you have to fight off the other kids when you get thirsty? :^D

 

[slayer202]

subsidized bullshit. lotta agricultural shit is like that in the US

 

[AreaCode707]

We have a lot of friends in the goat community that keep theirs raw. Occasionally they'll give us some to make cheese, mmmm.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: waggy

yeap. teh milk "cartal" is bad.

It don't matter what brand of milk you buy. it all comes form one of the same places.

you can't milk your cows and sale it. that is against the law. there was a story of a guy who had 50-100 cows. he was milking, pasterizing, and bottling the milk and selling it for %50 of any other milk on the market. well he got sued for it.

a guy down the road has a few hundred heads for milk. Some of the shit he told me was amazing.

Have you been using some 'product'?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707
We have a lot of friends in the goat community that keep theirs raw. Occasionally they'll give us some to make cheese, mmmm.

One of my fond memories in Crete was working for a farmer on the south coast. He let us sleep on the comfy straw in the cave where he said he whole family lived while he built his house. It looked out on the Mediterranean.

In the morning, he fed us still warm, just milked goat's milk with stale bread from the day before crumbled in with some sugar. It tasted like heaven! :heart:

 

[Perknose]

I've seen the stainless steel tankers early in the morining in Amish country out in nearby Lancaster County (Pa), like oil tankers but stainless steel for milk, backing laboriously down a small dirt road to tiny dairy farm after tiny dairy farm and having the milk pumped into them.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Perknose


One of my fond memories in Crete was working for a farmer on the south coast. He let us sleep on the comfy straw in the cave where he said he whole family lived while he built his house. It looked out on the Mediterranean.

In the morning, he fed us still warm, just milked goat's milk with stale bread from the day before crumbled in with some sugar. It tasted like heaven! :heart:

Sounds awesome :^)

 

[zCypher]

I read that unpasteurized milk actually has a greater resistance against "bad" bacteria, because of it's entire nutritional structure being in tact - whatever combination of enzymes and other nutrients. Obviously, milk is pasteurized for two reasons - longer shelf life, and supposedly "to kill bacteria", while it's true that pasteurization does kill bacteria, it also kills most vitamins and, almost certainly a number of other important nutrients; rendering a healthy food into something nutritionally empty, along the way removing the milk's (apparently) natural ability to combat "bad bacteria". It is more or less common knowledge that heat and light destroys nutrients in a vast array of foods and beverages, so it's really no surprise in the case of milk.

I don't agree with it being illegal. I think it should be the consumer's choice to buy their raw products from credible, certified sources, like any other product. Obviously if you drink milk from a sick cow, you might get sick. Then again, Big Agriculture doesn't exactly have the best track record for cleanliness. Setting standards would be better than simply making it illegal... Look at the bottled water industry, they're apparently very unregulated and it's perfectly "legal" - yet you could just as easily get sick from contaminated water as with milk.

Here in Canada, selling unpasteurized goods is illegal punishable by heavy fines. I heard that in the U.S. there are a significant number of states where the selling of unpasteurized milk is not illegal. I have not been able to find any statistics to show that the rates of death or illness caused by raw milk consumption have been higher in those areas.

 

[Pepsei]

google unpasteurized milk shows that in the states, it's illegal like pot...hmmmm didn't know that....
and FDA have a big faq section on why it is bad to drink it... propaganda?

 

[RoloMather]

Raw human milk is the best nutrition wise. Plus it comes in a fun container.

 

[DaWhim]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
google unpasteurized milk shows that in the states, it's illegal like pot...hmmmm didn't know that....
and FDA have a big faq section on why it is bad to drink it... propaganda?

I am not sure about that, but I am sure people have been drinking raw milk for centuries.

FDA warning is like the warning you see on the cup of a hot coffee, it is extremely hot and you may burn yourself with it.

 

[Modelworks]

The reason it doesn't seem as creamy as the store milk is that its not homogenized.
I think ultra pasteurization is the future of milk in the USA.
6 months shelf life would be great.

http://www.usafreshmilk.com/

 

[quikah]

Whole Foods sells it in CA (at least they did last year, haven't looked recently).

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
google unpasteurized milk shows that in the states, it's illegal like pot

Again, folks, this is NOT true. The sale of raw milk (untreated and specifically unpasteurized) is LEGAL in 28 American states for human consumption, and for animal consumption in an additional 5, for a total of 33!

And, in at least three other states, raw milk is available through cow share programs.