Thanks Garyl99.
I've never been sure whether my motherboard would allow the higher speed Pentium III's (>600 MHz).
I've been using a CII 566@850 though without a problem. But the SS bios does support the CII's. But they say that >600 MHz PIII's are not supported on the 1.0 according to the bios update page.
This 900 may be a worthwhile and easy upgrade then. They also have just the CPU for ~$190 since I already have an abit slotket III and golden orb for my CII.
Jason
I've never been sure whether my motherboard would allow the higher speed Pentium III's (>600 MHz).
I've been using a CII 566@850 though without a problem. But the SS bios does support the CII's. But they say that >600 MHz PIII's are not supported on the 1.0 according to the bios update page.
This 900 may be a worthwhile and easy upgrade then. They also have just the CPU for ~$190 since I already have an abit slotket III and golden orb for my CII.
Jason
JasonG, officially Abit says the Bh6 v1.0x support up to the PIII600. But real world experience has shown otherwise, plenty of owner of that board are CPU higher than that. I've read quite a few posts from people who have installed the PIII 1Ghz (100fsb) on that board.
Ok so I have an Asus P2B-L. I currently have a P3 450. Will this work for me? If so, what do I need to do to make it work? Details please.
If not, why won't it work?
If not, why won't it work?
9 X 120 = 1080 with supplied slotek & fan for $208 shipped..........pretty good for first 24 hours. Flawless.
Don't forget to go through Ebates for another 5% off
Don't forget to go through Ebates for another 5% off
JasonG - the chip will definately work in a BH6 1.0. I know this because it is my current setup. I am able to succesfully run it at 1008 @ 112 fsb, however like garyl99, I am unable to run it at 124 fsb. I am pretty sure my problem is the generic agp banshee video card I am still using that is unable to run to far past 66MHz. We are still stuck with a 2/3 agp divider!
StratPlus:
If we replace our video cards with that $77 Radeon LE from newegg.com, can we hit 124FSB?
If we replace our video cards with that $77 Radeon LE from newegg.com, can we hit 124FSB?
I bet that Radeon would do fine at that FSB. Pretty much all of the modern cards are good at high FSB. And the reports bare this out.
This is adressed to the AMD spoilers jumping on this thread. I too thought about this. But the right choice is the P3. It comes out to the same money. But there are too many variables with changing platforms and getting basically the same performance in return. For one most are still using the BX platform. This is still the most stable and a very fast mobo still. Also the Athlon platform is very finicky about RAM, and power supplies, etc. Who knows if the Athlon will run stable as a direct replacement, or even run at all, with your current rig. Plus there are more heat concerns as well because the Athlon's run much hotter.
Why change a good stable system you already own, to another your not sure will run? Especialy when there really is no pay off to do so. Also there is more work involved in swaping out the motherboard. Beyond the physical work of doing it, you'll have to reformat and reinstall the OS, apps, everything, etc.. A big pain in the @ss!
With the processor upgrade you just put it in and there it is. It posts and then no more fussing with it. You don't even have to change anyhthing in windows, let alone backup your stuff and reformat.
So to recap, the processor upgrade is the way to go. Now if one was to pick out a whole new system from scratch then the AMD argument is very hard to resist. But for the people reading this thread, they are in the situation I'm describing. So think a little before you post. Oh...and shut the hell up.
This is adressed to the AMD spoilers jumping on this thread. I too thought about this. But the right choice is the P3. It comes out to the same money. But there are too many variables with changing platforms and getting basically the same performance in return. For one most are still using the BX platform. This is still the most stable and a very fast mobo still. Also the Athlon platform is very finicky about RAM, and power supplies, etc. Who knows if the Athlon will run stable as a direct replacement, or even run at all, with your current rig. Plus there are more heat concerns as well because the Athlon's run much hotter.
Why change a good stable system you already own, to another your not sure will run? Especialy when there really is no pay off to do so. Also there is more work involved in swaping out the motherboard. Beyond the physical work of doing it, you'll have to reformat and reinstall the OS, apps, everything, etc.. A big pain in the @ss!
With the processor upgrade you just put it in and there it is. It posts and then no more fussing with it. You don't even have to change anyhthing in windows, let alone backup your stuff and reformat.
So to recap, the processor upgrade is the way to go. Now if one was to pick out a whole new system from scratch then the AMD argument is very hard to resist. But for the people reading this thread, they are in the situation I'm describing. So think a little before you post. Oh...and shut the hell up.
This deal is currently listed as "usually ships in 1-2 weeks".
They show the PIII 900Mhz FCPGA for $259 as "in stock"
("interesting". Anyone know how quickly they are ACTUALLY
shipping this deal at this point?
Kwad
They show the PIII 900Mhz FCPGA for $259 as "in stock"
("interesting"
. Anyone know how quickly they are ACTUALLYshipping this deal at this point?
Kwad
It said 1-2 weeks last week also, I ordered it on Thursday, shipped the next day, got it a day or two later...
One more question: The Intel processor specs say the voltage is
1.7V and that it
"Requires a motherboard with a split plane for the Vcc".
What does that mean?
Kwad
1.7V and that it
"Requires a motherboard with a split plane for the Vcc".
What does that mean?
Kwad
Well I got my P3 900 in the mail today. And It installed flawlessly. The shipping is going next day from Airbourne Express. So to those that are worried about this, it is in stock, and it is shipping out next day by default. I'd say if you place your order it should be on your doorstep 3 days tops. Mine was shipped yesterday, and I recieved it today.
I'm running it now at 1008mhz at default voltage. I'm not going to try much higher for now. For one I still have PC100 ram. So I might take advantage of the cheap ram now and swap it out for some good PC133, and try a little more. Also heat is a non-issue. It runs very cool. This is a nice chip.
To all really worried. I don't think you should have much trouble with installihng this. With the slotket on a board meant for P2-P3s the multiplier is locked so that is not a problem. And the voltage thing that was mentioned shouldn't be a problem, as I have never heard of these chips not working because of this. A BIOS update should be in order to make it show the correct chip and speed, but it will work even if it shows a wrong chip in the BIOS.
I'm quite happy with this. This is a good solution for those guys with an Intel setup, that want a good cheap upgrade. You can easily be at a gig without changing anything, and buying no additional parts. Put the kit together, and install. Ten minutes later you're humming right along.
I'm running it now at 1008mhz at default voltage. I'm not going to try much higher for now. For one I still have PC100 ram. So I might take advantage of the cheap ram now and swap it out for some good PC133, and try a little more. Also heat is a non-issue. It runs very cool. This is a nice chip.
To all really worried. I don't think you should have much trouble with installihng this. With the slotket on a board meant for P2-P3s the multiplier is locked so that is not a problem. And the voltage thing that was mentioned shouldn't be a problem, as I have never heard of these chips not working because of this. A BIOS update should be in order to make it show the correct chip and speed, but it will work even if it shows a wrong chip in the BIOS.
I'm quite happy with this. This is a good solution for those guys with an Intel setup, that want a good cheap upgrade. You can easily be at a gig without changing anything, and buying no additional parts. Put the kit together, and install. Ten minutes later you're humming right along.
Ordered mine on Thursday last, got it this Monday morning, took out my 700@933 and replaced with the 900 in my Abit BF6 using the supplied slotket & HSF.........works great. It is now running a solid 1080 with the voltage at 1.75. The BIOS sees it as some strange number, but the Intel lock and the FSB are making it hum. Oh, I sold the retail boxed 700/933 for $175 so this was a sweet upgrade for $33.08.
Rob
Rob
I was out of town over the weekend, so this is a late testimonial. I ordered this as well to replace my P2-350. On a BH6 board, flashed the bios from NV to SS, popped the P3-900 in, set the soft menu, and I was up and running. Haven't done any overclocking, and I really don't see a need to at this point (considering I nearly tripled my performance already!)
I love this BH6, who would have guessed it could still run an up-to-date CPU after nearly 3 years?
I love this BH6, who would have guessed it could still run an up-to-date CPU after nearly 3 years?
And it was a pleasant surprise to see that TigerDirect had included the . correct HS/fan for Coppermine processors! And a little tube of heatsink compound, no less.
I was wary of ordering from TigerDirect, but am very happy with this purchase.
I was wary of ordering from TigerDirect, but am very happy with this purchase.
Just got my P3-900 today and have a question about the HSF that TigerDirect supplied. The HSF is made by ARX and is their model number ACC5050-08VHZ. According to the specs on the ARX website, this HSF is for the AMD Athlon/Duron ONLY. They have different models for the Intel FC-PGA CPU's. It seems like a lot of people are using this HSF without any problems with the P3-900, but I thought that the Intel and AMD CPU's were different physically and that's why they used different HSF's. So what is the deal here? They do show it in their catalog as supporting both types of CPU's. Also, TigerDirect sells this HSF for only $4.99 so I wonder how good it really is?
BTW, I asked the sales rep what the warranty is on the CPU and was told that they provide a one year warranty for all OEM CPU's that they sell. So that is good news if they honor it!
BTW, I asked the sales rep what the warranty is on the CPU and was told that they provide a one year warranty for all OEM CPU's that they sell. So that is good news if they honor it!
The HS/fan is fine, most new ones made are for both Intel and AMD. The heatsink is actually pretty decent, not spectacular, but pretty decent. It's also better than the retail heatsink. What makes it cheaper is the small fan.
But this chip really doesn't need a lot of cooling, so this is more than enough. Also if it can be rated for an AMD chip, your damn sure it's ok for an Intel chip. The AMD's run WAY hotter than the Intel's. You're fine, just install and be happy.
But this chip really doesn't need a lot of cooling, so this is more than enough. Also if it can be rated for an AMD chip, your damn sure it's ok for an Intel chip. The AMD's run WAY hotter than the Intel's. You're fine, just install and be happy.
Awesome chip. Got mine up to 1080mhz (9x120) on my BF6 with 1.75 volts and runs at 34C. Wintune scores of 3203/1265.
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