Question Raptor Lake - Official Thread

[Hulk]

Since we already have the first Raptor Lake leak I'm thinking it should have it's own thread.
What do we know so far?
From Anandtech's Intel Process Roadmap articles from July:

Built on Intel 7 with upgraded FinFET
10-15% PPW (performance-per-watt)
Last non-tiled consumer CPU as Meteor Lake will be tiled

I'm guessing this will be a minor update to ADL with just a few microarchitecture changes to the cores. The larger change will be the new process refinement allowing 8+16 at the top of the stack.

Will it work with current z690 motherboards? If yes then that could be a major selling point for people to move to ADL rather than wait.

 

[Timur Born]

Try reaching out to the person in charge of windows 11 that does the interval updates for beta testers?

How do I contact that person?

 

[A///]

How do I contact that person?

I was answerless but chat gpt saved my ass here. it's amanda langowski and she's in charge of something called the insider program at microsoft which oversees all alpha and beta software. no idea how to reach her but I'm sure she's on social media.

 

[igor_kavinski]

@A///

https://www.newegg.com/intel-rnuc13anhi5000u-nuc-13-pro/p/N82E16856102385

How about 10 or 20 of these all doing your video encoding jobs? Take up not much physical space and the power consumption should be acceptable, compared to a desktop CPU.

 

[Schmide]

@A///

https://www.newegg.com/intel-rnuc13anhi5000u-nuc-13-pro/p/N82E16856102385

How about 10 or 20 of these all doing your video encoding jobs? Take up not much physical space and the power consumption should be acceptable, compared to a desktop CPU.

Encoding is going the way of the FPGA, with things like the Alveo MA35D coming down the pipeline you can have a server farm in a 50w card. A $1600 50w card.

 

[Hulk]

Just read over at Tom's that the 14700K is looking like 8+12 with all-core boost of 5.5.

Pretty much what we were expecting for the refresh. More cores at least for the lower specs and slightly increased clocks. If the pricing is right the 14700K could be a decent upgrade for some like me.

Very curious as to how the 14900K will compare to the 13900KS since the 13900KS will be tough to beat on the basis of frequency alone.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Encoding is going the way of the FPGA, with things like the Alveo MA35D coming down the pipeline you can have a server farm in a 50w card

MA35D is specifically not an FPGA, but an actual dec/enc ASIC.

 

[aigomorla]

@A///

https://www.newegg.com/intel-rnuc13anhi5000u-nuc-13-pro/p/N82E16856102385

How about 10 or 20 of these all doing your video encoding jobs? Take up not much physical space and the power consumption should be acceptable, compared to a desktop CPU.

You want faster cores > then many cores in encoding unless its though NVENC or Quicksync.
Handbrake as i said tops out at about 6 cores if you do cpu encoding.
After that dimished returns hits really hard.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6t0x77

But again, encoding is so much better on quicksync and nvenc, that you're litterally watching paint peel off the walls if your still cpu encoding.

 

[Thunder 57]

You want faster cores > then many cores in encoding unless its though NVENC or Quicksync.
Handbrake as i said tops out at about 6 cores if you do cpu encoding.
After that dimished returns hits really hard.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6t0x77

But again, encoding is so much better on quicksync and nvenc, that you're litterally watching paint peel off the walls if your still cpu encoding.

CPU transcoding is still the gold standard. Handbrake may top out near six cores for h.264, but not anything newer. CPU transcoding also gives you the best file size/quality. Quicksynch is good, and mighty useful. GPU encoding doesn't compare.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Handbrake as i said tops out at about 6 cores if you do cpu encoding.
After that dimished returns hits really hard.

Max I've experienced is a 48 thread CPU encode. All cores seem to be utilized but only up to 50%. Speed wasn't that bad. With H.265 fastest encode, I was able to encode a full movie in about 20 minutes. I wish I owned a 5975WX.

 

[A///]

why are you all reporting different thread counts?

 

[igor_kavinski]

why are you all reporting different thread counts?

I can post the 48 thread screenshot if you like.

 

[Thunder 57]

why are you all reporting different thread counts?

Because a lot of it has to do with the codec and settings. Low resolution video doesn't scale very much, but if you are transcoding something at higher resolution using a slow preset, it will use as much as it can get.

 

[aigomorla]

Because a lot of it has to do with the codec and settings. Low resolution video doesn't scale very much, but if you are transcoding something at higher resolution using a slow preset, it will use as much as it can get.

but you get stupidily small returns for anything more then typically 6 core count.
And it only goes even more downhill as you go past 10.

 

[Abwx]

but you get stupidily small returns for anything more then typically 6 core count.
And it only goes even more downhill as you go past 10.

Only if you re compressing one file at the time, if one has lot of files he can launch several instance of the compressing software, otherwise it s useless to have that much core counts CPUs...

 

[Hitman928]

but you get stupidily small returns for anything more then typically 6 core count.
And it only goes even more downhill as you go past 10.

It really depends on what and how you’re encoding.

 

[Thunder 57]

but you get stupidily small returns for anything more then typically 6 core count.
And it only goes even more downhill as you go past 10.

Wrong. Just wrong.

 

[A///]

where's 13th gen there?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Some pretty scorching deals on Raptor Lake at Newegg right now. Check the hot deals forum if interested.

 

[jpiniero]

Intel Core i9-14900K 最高時脈可能只有 6.0GHz - BenchLife.info

可能不能達到 6.2GHz，但 6.0GHz 應該是最基本的。 Raptor Lake-S Refr […]

benchlife.info

Benchlife leaked the final specs. The only difference is 200 Mhz plus the i7 gets the 4 E cores.

 

[Hitman928]

Intel Core i9-14900K 最高時脈可能只有 6.0GHz - BenchLife.info

可能不能達到 6.2GHz，但 6.0GHz 應該是最基本的。 Raptor Lake-S Refr […]

benchlife.info

Benchlife leaked the final specs. The only difference is 200 Mhz plus the i7 gets the 4 E cores.

If accurate, pretty much exactly as I expected. The 13900ks becomes the 14900k and then everything underneath gets a small bump in e-cores and/or cache.

 

[jpiniero]

and then everything underneath gets a small bump in e-cores and/or cache.

Only the i7 has it's configuration changed.

 

[Hitman928]

Only the i7 has it's configuration changed.

Yeah, I shouldn't have said everything underneath gets a bump as I wouldn't expect every SKU to change in the refresh. I would expect that if Intel is doing a top to bottom refresh that other SKUs will get bumps (only the 3 are shown in the link) as Intel sees fit but we'll see what they do.

 

[Det0x]

Intel Core i9-14900K 最高時脈可能只有 6.0GHz - BenchLife.info

可能不能達到 6.2GHz，但 6.0GHz 應該是最基本的。 Raptor Lake-S Refr […]

benchlife.info

Benchlife leaked the final specs. The only difference is 200 Mhz plus the i7 gets the 4 E cores.

Intel 10nm:

 

[Henry swagger]

Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart (PC) im Benchmark-Test: Update mit Radeon-Raytracing

Ratchet & Clank: Benchmarks GPUs/CPUs

www.pcgameshardware.de

Raptor still thr gaming champion.. without cache spamming

 

[Markfw]

Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart (PC) im Benchmark-Test: Update mit Radeon-Raytracing

Ratchet & Clank: Benchmarks GPUs/CPUs

www.pcgameshardware.de

Raptor still thr gaming champion.. without cache spamming

They used faster memory in the Intel rig. Every one of my boxes uses 6000 CL30 and many others can even do more. Rigged results. and not equal testing to what the rest of the websites have found.