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Zorkorist

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Oil is just as cheap as it has ever been. The Arabs, can sell you all you can eat.

Peak Oil?

LOL

Plenty Oil.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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What it is, is a plague on future generations. 500 years from now, there may be no oil left. We'll be sitting on a dry zit.

(our children.)

-John
 

Zorkorist

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Because we burned it, for power.

When we had the technology for Nuclear Power.

-John
 

ralfy

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LOL, no.

Nuclear Energy returns equal or better fossil fuel returns.

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_08_01.html

All we are doing is boiling water. If you want to use fossil fuels to boil water, when we can do it by a clean, nuclear reaction, you are sick.

Those fossil fuels should be preserved for posterity, not burned up.

-John

That's just electricity. You have to include the use of petrochemicals, oil for mining, manufacturing, food production, and transport such as large cargo ships. In fact, oil is even used to manufacture components for renewable energy as well as infrastructure needed for nuclear power.

Also, consider energy quantity, the fact that what applies to oil will obviously apply to other material resources, the cost of storing waste, the length of the transition period:

http://www.businessinsider.com/131-years-to-replace-oil-2010-11

and so forth.

Unfortunately, the global economy needs energy sources with high energy returns and quantity plus provide petrochemicals.
 

Zorkorist

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That's raping the earth.

As long as you understand what you are doing.

Nuclear Energy, is powerful, efficient and clean.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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I hate to argue the stupid clause, but if Nuclear Energy is "just" electricity, do you understand that we can have virtually unlimited power, while producing it in a clean environment?

-John
 

Zorkorist

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What we can't ever duplicate, is oil, coal, natural gas. These are all fossil fuels, natural resources, and once you burn them, they are gone forever.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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We use them, fossil fuels, for plastics (amazing in themselves), among other things.

Burning them is tantamount to suicide.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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Never mind Global Warming, and the emissions emitted by burning fossil fuels.

Climate Change.

Beachfront property in the Smoky Mountains.

-John
 

Attic

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Recent technologies for fracking are not new. The reason they are being employed now is because the marginal cost for crude oil is high. The reason for that is peak oil.



That's my point. And the price went up because marginal costs are high. Marginal costs are high because of peak oil.



That's right. It's not about reserves.


Cost of oil to extract a Barrell of oil. What's story here, from my graph it appears the U.S. is extracting more oil than ever before by a large margin.
 

ralfy

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I hate to argue the stupid clause, but if Nuclear Energy is "just" electricity, do you understand that we can have virtually unlimited power, while producing it in a clean environment?

-John

Many processes in mining, manufacturing, and food production require machines powered by diesel or bunker oil. Many components in both the process and the finished goods require petrochemicals.