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Rape victim denied morning after pill

ayabe

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"The medical supervisor would not allow her to take the pill because she said it was against her, the supervisor's, religion. So, here we have a medical supervisor imposing her beliefs on a rape victim," claimed the victim's attorney Virlyn Moore. "As a human being, how someone could be so violated by this monster and then the system comes along and rapes her again psychologically and emotionally - it's outrageous and unconscionable."


This sickens me and the medical supervisor should be fired and have their license/certifications revoked. There needs to be a strong stand taken against this sort of crap.

Tampa Bay isn't exactly a hotbed of religious fervor so it saddens me that this has happened, this proves that this kind of crap can happen anywhere.

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Originally posted by: ayabe
This sickens me and the medical supervisor should be fired and have their license/certifications revoked. There needs to be a strong stand taken against this sort of crap.

Tampa Bay isn't exactly a hotbed of religious fervor so it saddens me that this has happened, this proves that this kind of crap can happen anywhere.

It's Florida, another Bush Country, what did you expect?

This is also Schiavo Country.

They still rule America.
 
[RRR] "Everyone knows it was GOD'S WILL that the dirty little heathen be raped! Maybe if she wouldn't have whored herself wearing those unholy clothes this never would've been an issue!" [/RRR]
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
This is a clear case of malpractice.

Don't be so sure of it--that same thing was an issue at a hospital here in Pennsylvania and I don't know if anything ever came of it.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ayabe
This sickens me and the medical supervisor should be fired and have their license/certifications revoked. There needs to be a strong stand taken against this sort of crap.

Tampa Bay isn't exactly a hotbed of religious fervor so it saddens me that this has happened, this proves that this kind of crap can happen anywhere.

It's Florida, another Bush Country, what did you expect?

This is also Schiavo Country.

They still rule America.

Exactly! Bush spoke directly to this medical supervisor and told them not to give the pills! Down with Bush!

I suppose next your going to blame this cold weather we're having on Bush too?
 
Unfortunately this happens more than we know. There have been many stories about pharmacies deniying MA pill for the same reason. Strange to deny an over the counter pill (in most states anyway).
 
The nurse not giving her the pill because of her religious beliefs reminds me of the Saudi Arabian incident (or was it Iran) where a girls school was on fire and the firemen wouldn't go in to put it out because it was against their religious beliefs.
Religious extremism flourishes here in America.
 
In the case of health or rape, an abortion should never be denied. I?m against the frivolous use of it as a contraceptive, where as this case represents the most valid reason for terminating the pregnancy.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
In the case of health or rape, an abortion should never be denied. I?m against the frivolous use of it as a contraceptive, where as this case represents the most valid reason for terminating the pregnancy.

um...this isnt about abortion....
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
In the case of health or rape, an abortion should never be denied. I?m against the frivolous use of it as a contraceptive, where as this case represents the most valid reason for terminating the pregnancy.

um...this isnt about abortion....

What other reason is there for denying the morning after pill? I?m apparently confused on this one, so please explain it.
 
There are many religious organizations which have tried to introduce laws that would allow medical personnel to refuse any action which would violate their religious beliefs. Unfortunately, it completely defeats the purpose of being in a position to offer medical aid if you suddenly start having people who want to decide for themselves which aid they want to give.

For many years there has been a long-standing practice in the medical community of offering aid to someone in need regardless of other considerations. An enemy in time of war? Treat them anyway. An ex-con injured while breaking the law again? Treat them anyway. Why would we now want to start denying aid based on personal beliefs? It goes against everything the Hippocratic Oath stands for.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
In the case of health or rape, an abortion should never be denied. I?m against the frivolous use of it as a contraceptive, where as this case represents the most valid reason for terminating the pregnancy.

um...this isnt about abortion....

What other reason is there for denying the morning after pill? I?m apparently confused on this one, so please explain it.

See the bolded part? She wasnt denied an abortion. Never read a story of anyone who was. This is about her being denied the morning after pill.
 
Originally posted by: Arcex
There are many religious organizations which have tried to introduce laws that would allow medical personnel to refuse any action which would violate their religious beliefs. Unfortunately, it completely defeats the purpose of being in a position to offer medical aid if you suddenly start having people who want to decide for themselves which aid they want to give.

For many years there has been a long-standing practice in the medical community of offering aid to someone in need regardless of other considerations. An enemy in time of war? Treat them anyway. An ex-con injured while breaking the law again? Treat them anyway. Why would we now want to start denying aid based on personal beliefs?

It goes against everything the Hippocratic Oath stands for.

You didn't get the memo?

The Radical Religion Right of the U.S. changed it to Hypocratic Oath.
 
Technically, the Hippocratic Oath has been changed numerous times. The original Oath had a few interesting tidbits like:

To teach medicine to the sons of my teacher. In the past, medical schools would give preferential consideration to the children of physicians.

Not to teach medicine to other people.

Never to attempt to induce an abortion. There's a hot topic...

To avoid violating the morals of my community.


Etc, etc.

And I freely admit I stole those quotes from Wikipedia. I love that website...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_oath
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Arcex
There are many religious organizations which have tried to introduce laws that would allow medical personnel to refuse any action which would violate their religious beliefs. Unfortunately, it completely defeats the purpose of being in a position to offer medical aid if you suddenly start having people who want to decide for themselves which aid they want to give.

For many years there has been a long-standing practice in the medical community of offering aid to someone in need regardless of other considerations. An enemy in time of war? Treat them anyway. An ex-con injured while breaking the law again? Treat them anyway. Why would we now want to start denying aid based on personal beliefs?

It goes against everything the Hippocratic Oath stands for.

You didn't get the memo?

The Radical Religion Right of the U.S. changed it to Hypocratic Oath.

Doctors take the Lasagna oath now.

 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
In the case of health or rape, an abortion should never be denied. I?m against the frivolous use of it as a contraceptive, where as this case represents the most valid reason for terminating the pregnancy.

um...this isnt about abortion....

What other reason is there for denying the morning after pill? I?m apparently confused on this one, so please explain it.

The morning after pill isn't abortion. The body naturally often rejects the implantation of a fetilised egg, the morning after pill increases the chances of that occurring basically.

Emergency contraception (EC) (also known as Emergency Birth Control (EBC), the morning-after pill, or postcoital contraception) refers to measures that, if taken after sex, may prevent pregnancy.

Forms of EC include:

Emergency contraceptive pills?referred to simply as "emergency contraception," "ECPs," or "ECs", or "morning-after pills"?are drugs that act both to prevent ovulation or fertilisation and possibly post-fertilisation implantation of a blastocyst (embryo). ECPs are distinct from medical abortion methods that act after implantation.
Intrauterine devices (IUDs)?usually used as a primary contraception method, but sometimes used as emergency contraception.
As its name implies, EC is intended for occasional use, when primary means of contraception fail. Since EC methods act before implantation, they are medically and legally considered forms of contraception. Some pro-life groups define pregnancy as beginning with fertilisation, and consider EC to be an abortifacient. These claims are controversial on philosophical and scientific grounds, respectively.

And if this person who denied the pill is a licensed doctor she could lose her license because it may be considered against the hypocratic oath. On the same basis if a murderer is shot and dying and a doctor says it's against their religion to save a murderer, they failed to abide by the oath. I don't know if "medical supervisor" is considered a doctor.
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
You guys should join in on the thread in ATOT. It, for once, has more spite in it than here.

How anyone can defend the system is beyond me.

They obviously have no clue on how fvked up it is.
 
A few well-placed malpractice lawsuits against the various hospitals and pharmacies pulling this sort of crap will put a fast end to these sorts of incidents.
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
A few well-placed malpractice lawsuits against the various hospitals and pharmacies pulling this sort of crap will put a fast end to these sorts of incidents.

John Edwards, your nation needs you. :laugh:
 
I'm not familiar with any religion that would prevent a morning-after pill in the event of rape. Obviously, GW told her to do it.

Sounds like some incompetent cops and a hyporcritical county medical supervisor are going to lose their jobs. Good news, I'd say, except their unions will probably block it.
 
Originally posted by: Termagant
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
A few well-placed malpractice lawsuits against the various hospitals and pharmacies pulling this sort of crap will put a fast end to these sorts of incidents.

John Edwards, your nation needs you. :laugh:

Unfortunately, the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office seems to think they can make up their own laws and deny people their prescription drugs because of some vague religious objection. They need to be shown the error of their ways. The only thing the Sheriff's Office is likely to understand is an expensive lawsuit.

You think their going to have some sort of epiphany and change their behavior on their own?
 
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