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Rap Music is Dangerous, huh?

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What's more dangerous to society is the fact of a medium being detrimental to the same society is ignored by the ignorant for the mere fact of an kind act.
 
How many rappers have these records after leaving the drug/gang game?

Big? nope
Snoop? nope
50 cent? nope. i think he only went to jail when he was in his teens and sold drugs with some girl
Ja Rule? nope
DMX? maybe got charged for using drugs, not sure if he was convicted or not
Tupac? who know's if he ever left?
Jay Z? nope
Eminem? domesitc disturbance, concealed weapons charge, and whatever he got for cold cockin a dude that kissed his wife. that's the only record he has by the way, he never sold drugs or gang banged
ODB? i think his was drug use related, i haven't slept all night and am a little too tired to check
Nas? nope
KRS-One? nope
Ludacris? nope
Scarface? nope
Method Man? nope
Dr. Dre? nope
Tribe Called Quest? nope
Goodie Mobb? nope
Dead Prez? nope ( they are a militant group, you may be quick to call them racist, which they are, but only towards the establishment, not to regular white people as far as i interpreted which doesn't make it any better, but chalk this up to the exceptions if you will)
and this list goes on and on...


you keep talking about ludacris' lyrics, but don't want to produce the evidence. the burden of proof is on you, i made an attempt at doing the work for you, but frankly i don't have to debate them unless you bring them forward, and PLEASE do bring them forward because i would like to read them myself!


Now, i don't recall NSync growing up in the ghettos. And they are prime examples of people who enjoy rap music, but don't have any records, so it's a bad example on your behalf.

 
as far as the lyrics, we should have no

Kill Bill Vol. 1 and 2 - violence
ShowGirls - objectifying of women, language
Godfather - violence, gangs, objectifying of women, language, racism, drug traficking, corruption
Scarface - drug dealing, objectifying of women, language, violence
Chicago - objectifying of women


I want to continue this list, but my sleep/hunger is overcoming me
 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
How many rappers have these records after leaving the drug/gang game?

Big? nope
Snoop? nope
50 cent? nope. i think he only went to jail when he was in his teens and sold drugs with some girl
Ja Rule? nope
DMX? maybe got charged for using drugs, not sure if he was convicted or not
Tupac? who know's if he ever left?
Jay Z? nope
Eminem? domesitc disturbance and whatever he got for cold cockin a dude that kissed his wife. that's the only record he has by the way, he never sold drugs or gang banged
ODB? i think his was drug use related, i haven't slept all night and am a little too tired to check
Nas? nope
KRS-One? nope
Ludacris? nope
Scarface? nope
Method Man? nope
Dr. Dre? nope
Tribe Called Quest? nope
Goodie Mobb? nope
Dead Prez? nope ( they are a militant group, you may be quick to call them racist, which they are, but only towards the establishment, not to regular white people as far as i interpreted which doesn't make it any better, but chalk this up to the exceptions if you will)
and this list goes on and on...


you keep talking about ludacris' lyrics, but don't want to produce the evidence. the burden of proof is on you, i made an attempt at doing the work for you, but frankly i don't have to debate them unless you bring them forward, and PLEASE do bring them forward because i would like to read them myself!


Now, i don't recall NSync growing up in the ghettos. And they are prime examples of people who enjoy rap music, but don't have any records, so it's a bad example on your behalf.
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Oh boy. Seriously, you need to get a clue. You actually believe all those guys never comitted a crime after they "left" the drug/gang "game?"
 
okay, where's your proof? they haven't been convicted have they? have they been charged? i'm sorry, but your hunch just doesn't cut it. your are relying on your stereotypes, not the facts.
 
btw, i hope you are paying tax on those items you are selling, because otherwise that could be...you know....illegal? of course i'm not a tax knowledgeable person, so i said could
 
Originally posted by: Kiyup
What's more dangerous to society is the fact of a medium being detrimental to the same society is ignored by the ignorant for the mere fact of an kind act.
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You know what I think is detrimental to society? Christianity. What do you say we ban it?
 
thanks wink,

and while we're at it, we should get rid of ALL religions, the world will be a much better place. what does it matter WHO we pray to? so long as we follow the teachings that say to treat one another in kindness among other teachings?
 
okay, where's your proof? they haven't been convicted have they? have they been charged? i'm sorry, but your hunch just doesn't cut it. your are relying on your stereotypes, not the facts
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I like how you didn't include Snoop Dogg in there 🙂
I do believe Skoorb said it best:
BIG had a criminal record. Tupac had a criminal record. Eminem has a criminal record. C Murder has a criminal record. Snoop doggy dogg has a criminal record. Dr Dre has a criminal record. 50 cent has a criminal record. Must I go on?
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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
btw, i hope you are paying tax on those items you are selling, because otherwise that could be...you know....illegal? of course i'm not a tax knowledgeable person, so i said could
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I can guarantee that those rappers did NOT pay taxes on all the drugs they sold 😉
 
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Originally posted by: Kiyup What's more dangerous to society is the fact of a medium being detrimental to the same society is ignored by the ignorant for the mere fact of an kind act.
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You know what I think is detrimental to society? Christianity. What do you say we ban it?
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If you're going to go on that tirade please don't forget to mention any other religion.

On another note please don't forget to mention all the charities based on Christian groups.
 
yea, those are the same charities that trade relief for belief, hehe, i just made that up! hope no one else said it before

nothing in this world is free my good man!
 
Eminem you failed to mention his being charged with a concealed weapon.

Anyway I'd never presume to think that somebody goes crystal clean just because they've made a few bucks. Who would you rather have as a babysitter? Dr. Dre or John Mayer?

I have little doubt that the gangster mentality of rap music influences some people in bad ways. I have little doubt that violent movies and video games are the same. There have been repeatable studies demonstrating such things (one that comes to mind involved two groups of kids and I believe that one was shown some aggressive/mildly aggressive play, then when put in seperate rooms those who'd seen it were more apt to play in similar fashion) and, considering that everybody is in part a product of their environment (such is alluded to even here talking about the backgrounds of these rappers), it's short sighted to think that a 12 year old listening to gangster rap all day won't be influenced by it.

I don't mean that to say it should be censored because if we censored everything with a bad influence we'd have a lot less. I love killing people in GTA3, but I wouldn't want my 8 year old doing it (if I had one). I have no problem with the legality of rap, violent video games, restricted gory movies, etc. but I definitely don't think they have on influence on those who consume them.
 
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Originally posted by: Kiyup
What's more dangerous to society is the fact of a medium being detrimental to the same society is ignored by the ignorant for the mere fact of an kind act.
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You know what I think is detrimental to society? Christianity. What do you say we ban it?
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:Q Sorry, but I just can't help but laugh at that comment. My mistake. You may return to your arguements now.
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cobalt, let's start a new thread 🙂 this thread has been civil up to now

i don't think that puffy shot up the club, no
 
Mos Def & Talib Kweli.

They are great benefactors as well. Listen to their songs and the message within them. Listen to "Proud" or " New World Water" or "For Women".

Not only are they very charitable, but their songs have meaning as well. That's probably why they aren't so popular.
 
you keep talking about ludacris' lyrics, but don't want to produce the evidence. the burden of proof is on you, i made an attempt at doing the work for you, but frankly i don't have to debate them unless you bring them forward, and PLEASE do bring them forward because i would like to read them myself!
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Actually it was you that started this thread on the unsubstantiated claim there was some widely held belief that "all rappers are violent gangsters". When I called you on the false premise of your thread, you blamed it on Bill O'Reilly. When I called your false accusation against Bill O'Reilly, you changed the title of your thread and edited your first post. Notice a pattern here?

I described Ludacris' music as "antisocial, often racist and certainly misogynist, sometimes violence and drug promoting, gutter-lyric filth rap" and the only part of that you wish to dispute is racism. Ok, I'll let you do that.

Ludacris' music is then "antisocial, often bigoted and certainly misogynist, sometimes violence and drug promoting, gutter-lyric filth rap".
"Hoes In My Room"

Hey Ludacris let's get the f-ck up out this place, let's bounce)
Then it got to my head, and somethin' reminded me
I know who let 'em in, it was Bill O'Reilly (F@ggot)
(Ya' white bread, chicken-sh!t awesome dude)
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That doesn't mean it should be banned. I've yet to hear anyone advocate the government should ban certain types of music. We don't live in Europe, where the government can not only ban lyrics of a certain nature but prosecute artists for hate crimes over the content of their music.

Nobody is saying "it should be against the law." What they're saying is, the music of Ludacris and similar 'artists' is distasteful garbage with absolutely no redeeming value or message and parents should not only be aware of this music, but think long and hard before allowing young impressionable minds to listen to it.
 
The way a lot of them glorify violence against cops and stuff influence some of the kids who listen to it.

I know at least one kid who likes rap a lot, and looks up to them and to others who kick against the government, including gangsters in general (his desktop has a picture of Scarface on it). I guess you agree with him that copkilling is cool, eh?

Maybe some of them should try to stop the gangs and get those kids into college (or at least primary school, considering the intelligence of rap fans), rather than telling them killing niggas and cops is cool.
 
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