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RANT: Never buying a luxury car again :(

wyvrn

Lifer
Ok thats it. Just took my Infiniti J30 into the shop and dropped $1200 into it. That's the second time in a year. This time fuel hoses needed to be replaced, new tie rods, 15,000 mile maintenance, and a few other things. Man this car has $2600 of repairs into it in the last year. This is getting ridiculous. I have never spent more than $300 on my Honda or any other car I have ever owned. For someone still in school and paying off mountains of school debt, I simply cannot afford this. BTW, I didn't buy this car. It's what my wife's parents bought for her for college (they got it used, but low miles). We got a great deal, several thousand below its blue book, but I had encouraged them to buy a new Honda Civic instead. I knew the J30 would be expensive to maintain as it aged, and I also knew that cost would fall to me, even though I had no say in what car she got.

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I think I am going to make them feel guilty so they will pay for at least half of it. Otherwise, its time to trade this sucker in and get a newer vehicle. I would rather make decent monthly paments on a new car then drop big bucks on repairs for an aging one.

Yes this is a rant, but the only one I have posted in a while 🙂
 
Let's see. A mid range new car will cost you about $500 a month in payments. That's $6000 a year, plus higher insurance.

And you think that's better than $2600 in maintenance? BTW, was that scheduled maintenance, or is the thing breaking on you? Do you think you'll need to keep doing this every year, or do you think it will be fine until it's next scheduled maintenance?

Either way, I'd hold on to it. Why waste your money on a new car that quickly loses it's value, when you've got one basically free?
 
Wow, my mom bought a '93 J30t a couple years back with 100k on it. It now has 160k on it and the biggest prob she had so far was a clogged fuel filter - that engine still runs smoother than some new cars...
 
No, most of it is for stuff that is breaking. Last time it was electrical problems and other stuff I cannot remember off of top of my head. This time its fuel hoses, tie rods, all sorts of hogwash. Nissan/Infiniti is supposed to be a reliable car.

I know it sounds like I am whining since I didn't pay for this car in the first place. However, I tried to explain to her parents its better to buy a new econo car than an expensive used one, ESPECIALLY since I have the burden of paying her medical school bills, conference costs, equipment, and this damn luxury car that we didn't really want (her dad fell in love with it and purchased it against everyone else's wishes). They aren't paying for all this stuff, I am on my pat time income 🙁

BTW, the new Civic would have come out to the same cost as the used J30.

No it now has 103,000 miles on it. We got it used with 39k on it, but do a lot of highway driving. It is nowhere near being under warranty, it is a 1994 model and I only expect it to get more expensive as time goes on. My frustration is paying for it when I knew it would happen, told them, but they wouldn't listen 🙁

Anyway sorry for the rant, just blowing off steam.
 
buy new luxury car, use for the duration of the free maintenance contract, then sell 😀

on a bmw, that's 3 yrs or 50,000 miles. whichever comes first. free everything + car wash till the maintenance contract is up; i've already driven 13,000 in the past year. i might sell it in 2 yrs.
 
You say you got a good deal, several thousand below blue book. Why do you think the previous owners sold the car below wholesale value?

Regarding the high repair costs, perhaps your mechanic is charging or fixing things that don't need to be fixed...and the j30 is not a luxry car. Its upscale. And it should be no more expensive to maintain than a maxima. Cars don't break that easily..luxury, upscale or otherwise.
 


<< Let's see. A mid range new car will cost you about $500 a month in payments. That's $6000 a year, plus higher insurance. >>



They paid cash for the car, the same amount of cash would have purchased either, straight up. Insurance on Civics is about 1/4 -1/3 what it is on this Infiniti. Maintenance is significantly less. Plus we could have had a civic at 65k miles, with zero problems, vs. the J30 now with 103k and many problems.



<< You say you got a good deal, several thousand below blue book. Why do you think the previous owners sold the car below wholesale value?

Regarding the high repair costs, perhaps your mechanic is charging or fixing things that don't need to be fixed...and the j30 is not a luxry car. Its upscale. And it should be no more expensive to maintain than a maxima. Cars don't break that easily..luxury, upscale or otherwise.
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Thats another rub. We bought it from a dealership, it was a LEASE car. That means the car was run ragged most likely, and no guarantee the owner kept up with oil changes because they knew they were going to sell it at xxx miles. Another warning of mine not headed 🙁

Secondly, the "mechanic" is the dealership. This is the third and last one I know of in my area. All three have confirmed the same repairs. Unless they are running some sort of cartel, I doubt they would be cheating me. I don't trust this car to any other mechanic because I haven't found one that can do good work on foreign cars yet.

 
I don't see the economical side to most of these "economy" cars either. Well, except for gas mileage, but gas is cheap as water anyway. Need a headlight? I've seen some of these screwballs pay $50.00 for one! I've never paid over $5.00 for a damn headlight!

The CV joint on a FWD "economy" car is over 10 times the cost for the comparable RWD part, let alone installation. The U-joint on a RWD car can be installed in less than 1/2 hour and the part is under $10.00. Look at the price difference between a coil over shock and a McPherson strut. Where the hell is the "economy" there? Even a simple wheel alignment is more expensive on a FWD, since you have to do the rears too.

I looked into buying a Jaguar XJ a couple decades ago. I bailed on that idea as soon as I saw the price for parts! :Q My non-economical domestic has been pretty damn cheap to keep where parts and repairs are concerned. Didn't have to suffer in a cramped, buzzy cockpit either!
 
If you have a car over 100k miles, of course the maintainence is going to be expensive. $2600 bucks is bad compared to what you would pay for a new car.
 
That is dickriculous. You can buy a new civic like you wanted and pay barely above $300/month for 60 months on the bad boy.
 
Stop taking it to the Dealer....I take my G20 to a local shop and they take care of it for A LOT less...

edit: I know you said you don't trust anybody else with it, but don't you have friends who could recommend someone? It's just like fixing a Nissan...Not that hard.
 
Yeah...even if they gave you a broken-down Yugo for free...at the very least, you could get the enjoyment of pushing it over a cliff and watching all the explosions

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You'll never know the joy of seeing a car you don't care about explode until you try it...(Safely of course)
 


<< I don't see the economical side to most of these "economy" cars either. Well, except for gas mileage, but gas is cheap as water anyway. Need a headlight? I've seen some of these screwballs pay $50.00 for one! I've never paid over $5.00 for a damn headlight!

The CV joint on a FWD "economy" car is over 10 times the cost for the comparable RWD part, let alone installation. The U-joint on a RWD car can be installed in less than 1/2 hour and the part is under $10.00. Look at the price difference between a coil over shock and a McPherson strut. Where the hell is the "economy" there? Even a simple wheel alignment is more expensive on a FWD, since you have to do the rears too.

I looked into buying a Jaguar XJ a couple decades ago. I bailed on that idea as soon as I saw the price for parts! :Q My non-economical domestic has been pretty damn cheap to keep where parts and repairs are concerned. Didn't have to suffer in a cramped, buzzy cockpit either!
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umm...the Infiniti J30 is RWD.
 
Yeah, this last year you've spent probably twice as much as is normal for an older car. Generally an older car will cost between $100 and $150 per month to keep running, not counting normal maintenance. Just playing devil's advocate here, but there is always that chance that you have finally fixed the last thing that will go wrong with the car for a long time. Always that to think about.

ZV
 
Low miles eh? 'Good deal' eh? I wonder if the miles werent rolled back before you got it.

15,000 miles...should still be under warranty
 
"umm...the Infiniti J30 is RWD."

Ummm... but they're trying to talk him into an econobox. The Jaguar XJ6 I was kicking around buying was RWD too. But they wanted like $150.00 for a single tie rod end at the time! A comparable domestic tie rod end was about $15.00. Sheesh...
 
Did I read that right; you put 64k miles on it in the last year? No wonder $2600 in repairs! That's a damn high number of miles in a year. If I read that right I'd say that $2600 in repairs isn't that bad really.
 
i realize that you want to be diplomatic with your wife's parents, but you're also a big boy.

don't let them (or anyone else) make decisions that are yours to make; ya so they got it for your wife, but it obviously affects you and is pissing you off. if you don't take your own matters into your own hands, it's your own fault when they don't go your way.

simplify your life (when i say "your" it can also be the royal "your", inclusive of your wife, too) and pay attention to the truly important stuff, like getting her thru med. school, etc. worry bout overbearing inlaws in due time.
 
Dang, from the repairs, it sounds like you're floggin the snot out of the car... or the previous owner didn't take car of the car worth a crap.
I guess most likely the latter... but yeah, I hear ya... a good 30% of my car buying decision was on where and how much maintenance might cost.
 
IMO the girls parents did you a favor, buying a used nice car is often a lot better than buying a new POS. However, if you had known that you were going to rack up such ridiculous mileage, then maybe you ARE in the "disposable car" category of people that have no hope but to buy something and drive it until it's junk.

But for those people who drive a reasonable # of miles per year (say between 8k and 15k) the better used car is probably a better choice. I'm glad I made that choice myself a few years ago.

As for the J30 in general - A 94 is definitely getting on in years, and with 100k miles on it - certainly you should expect to start seeing problems. However it's been _my_ experience that these things go in cycles... I bought my car from someone who was afraid of upcoming repairs - but after about $1200 in immediate repairs, I think it made it the next 20,000 miles without a single "event".


 


<< Did I read that right; you put 64k miles on it in the last year? No wonder $2600 in repairs! That's a damn high number of miles in a year. If I read that right I'd say that $2600 in repairs isn't that bad really. >>



LOL. Ok let me explain. We have had the car for a few years. We bought it with 39k miles. We have put on the rest in the last 3 years (so no warranty here). My wife did a lot of driving in that time because 1) she went to school in Galveston TX, her house is in Dallas and 2) she was on rotations in small towns and did a lot of bouncing around to different rural hospitals. So that is about 20k miles a year, whereas most people who work put about 15k a year on theirs. Plus being highway miles, its not like WE were the ones that ragged the car out. Plus, I babied that car. Every 3-3.5k miles it got its oil done. I stood over them and made sure they put in a new filter every time. I did ALL of the maintenance on the car at the time is was supposed to be done. I waxed it, conditioned and cleaned the leather, etc... This car has only every had premium gas (that is what is required by the manual), we NEVER cheaped out and put in anything else. I never used any sort of fuel additives either.

Since it was a lease car originally, I think the first owner, knowing they were going to exchange it at the end of their lease, neglected it. I pointed this possibility out before we bought the car, but nobody listened. Thats frustration pt. #1.



<< If you have a car over 100k miles, of course the maintainence is going to be expensive. $2600 bucks is bad compared to what you would pay for a new car >>



Yeah but you are missing the pt. Sorry if I did not explain clearly. We drove to the Honda dealership (reliable, I have used them all my life) locally to get a new Civic. They had about 10 Infiniti cars on the lot that were used as leases. We could have gotten either the Civic or J30 for almost exactly the SAME price. Her parents paid CASH, upfront, no financing whatsoever. They are really frugral people, being Asian this is pretty normal, and very economical and sensible people. Even though I argued strontgly (nicely as well) that we should buy the newer car due to 1) insurance 2) maintenance 3) gas costs, her dad fell in love with the damn leather seat, bose radio, decked out luxo car instead of the econo-box Honda. Frustration pt. #2. I mean we could have had either, why make it hard on yourself????



<< What do you expect though? The car is 8 years old now. I had engine problems with my 3 year old Mazda 626. >>



I agree. Nobody frickin' listened to me. However, Infiniti are nice cars and should be expected to get more than 100k miles before stuff starts falling apart. That's what domestics do 😛




<< Yeah, this last year you've spent probably twice as much as is normal for an older car. Generally an older car will cost between $100 and $150 per month to keep running, not counting normal maintenance. Just playing devil's advocate here, but there is always that chance that you have finally fixed the last thing that will go wrong with the car for a long time. Always that to think about.
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That is what I am hoping. I was optimistic last time, but in less than a year I had to drop another wad of cash to fix it. Still hopefull this is the last time though.



<< i realize that you want to be diplomatic with your wife's parents, but you're also a big boy.

don't let them (or anyone else) make decisions that are yours to make; ya so they got it for your wife, but it obviously affects you and is pissing you off. if you don't take your own matters into your own hands, it's your own fault when they don't go your way.

simplify your life (when i say "your" it can also be the royal "your", inclusive of your wife, too) and pay attention to the truly important stuff, like getting her thru med. school, etc. worry bout overbearing inlaws in due time.
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You are right of course. It was awkward since I didn't PAY for the car originally. So its not like I can call it my property outright. But then again maybe I will 😀
 
let see..15k routine maintanence is what? sparkplugs and a new air filter? walmart = ~$15 total. and to do it only takes 10 min tops.

you dont need a new gas filter unless u start having problems when u press on the gas pedal.

i really hate those ads that charge u $39.95 for sparkplugs, plus VISUAL inspection of belts and hoses. they dont even add the air filter.

learn to do the minor maintenance things yourself. sparkplugs and air filters are 2 of the MOST easiest things in a car that u can do yourself. and for best bang for the buck, it's changing your own brakes. remove 2 screws, pop out the brake pad and rotors. goto napa/pep boys/car quest/autozone and get the parts for 1/2 off or more. plus you wont have to deal with their $70/hr labor charge!!!!

i'm learning this the hardway, after being ripped off by Midas. i'm now going to auto school at nite at a local community college ($80) to learn basic car maintenance. never knew it was so damn easy. sparkplugs, air/gas filters, belts, alternator, brakes. nothing takes more than 45min to do. and this was on my 1st try!

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