RANT:Little kids who destroy stuff

[Hubris]

>>Why do you paddle your dog for looking out the window? >>



Ever watch the Simpson's? <<

That episode was on last night. I nearly choked on my iced tea. "You better believe that's a paddlin'." Man, it's been a long time since the new Simpsons have made me laugh so often during one episode. Glad the reruns are on.

 

[moonsocket]

kids will be kids!

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

who is this family staying with you? i hope you are able to put up with the chaos as long as you need to.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Wallop the parents

 

[BDawg]

<< It's like dog. Dog sh!ts in the house, dog gets a paddlin'. Dog chews on the couch, that's a paddlin. Dog looks out the window, that's a paddlin. Paddlin the school canoe, that's a paddlin. >>



Okay, I get the Simpon's reference, and I agree with spanking when it's deserved. But a dog is not the same.

If you walk into the room and see a pile on your floor, and you chastise the dog, he doesn't have the connection of why you just got mad at him. He thinks it's because you found poop on the floor. He can't link that to you're mad he pooped indoors. Next time, he'll just take greater care to make sure the poop is somewhere you can't find it.

As for hitting or paddling your dog, it only serves to make him fear you. It does nothing to educate the dog. The only time I've struck my dog is to pop him on the nose when he's acting agressive (he gets cranky close to bed time).

 

[Murphyrulez]

I am surprised that most people here don't realize the difference between spanking your child and beating your child.

Spanking is not wrong, beating is.

Little kids who don't get punished are the ones with no respect for anything or anyone....

 

[LoTecha]

There definitely is a line between beating and spanking. I used to get hit as a kid, but honestly, I knew it hurt my parents every time they hit me. Beating is when the parents get some sort of sick pleasure out of hitting their kid. Spanking is when they hurt with the child. Children will know the difference between the two.

For those saying the kid won't be able to associate the wrong action with the punishment, that's why communication is vital.

 

[StageLeft]

<< Maybe they have ADD. >>

Maybe they haven't been spanked enough.

 

[shortalias]

IF you are so concerned about it, how come you have left your mother to clean it up? How come you aren't doing it!!

 

[her209]

Instead of spanking them, should leave em out in the cold like my friends parents did to him.

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

<< Ok. This just in. We have a family staying with us and they have a 3 and 5 year old (or so) and they got into a water fight. So the 5 year old takes off the shower head and takes it outside the shower. SPRAYS THE WHOLE ENTIRE BATHROOM DOWN IN WATER. i mean everything is still soaked and my mother is cleaning it up. their parents arent here to spank them... I just took the dreamcast away from them... GRRR...:disgust:

Anyone else have little kids that are annoying as heck? >>

Newsflash - children, especially small children, do need supervision. Shocking isn't it? They do not need to be beat, they do not need to be spanked, they need a responsible person to watch them. Little kids left unattended will get into some horrific stuff. If their parents cannot watch them then they need to provide a babysitter when they are not there, that would be my advice.

 

[AreaCode707]

You don't spank a kid for doing something wrong unless it was intentional disobedience. You teach them the ethics they need, and when they look you defiantly in the face and do exactly what they know they're not supposed to do, *BECAUSE* you told them not to do it, that's when they get a spanking, and they should know that's what comes when they choose defiance. That and things that place them in harmful situations (I told you before to not touch the stove/stay out of the street/etc). I have two little sisters and they both are well behaved, energetic, sometimes stuff-damaging kids. One used to have mega-temper tantrums when she didn't get her way, broke a window at a year and half old. With discipline, time outs, explanations, and spankings, she's now a really good kid. Not perfect, but good. Trust me, when they understand your logic and spurn it anyway just to be disobedient, you have to have something there to correct their behavior besides the logic they just ignored, be it a time out or spanking, depending on the child.

 

[CStroman]

Gotsmack, not wanting to spank your kids is fine with me, but I hope you have some alternate, non-physical punishments in mind for when they disobey you.

 

[gotsmack]

I have a few ideas involving performing repetitive mundane tasks and having them sitting still with a combination silent treatment.

I think I'm going to base everything on a non material rewards system.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

<< Maybe they have ADD. >>

Saying that a child has ADD is an excuse for not raising them with self-control to begin with. Anyway, sorry about the bathroom! Guess they lost the privilage and have to use the bush out back from now on, don't they...

nik

 

[Red Dawn]

<< Saying that a child has ADD is an excuse for not raising them with self-control to begin with >>

Yep but diagnosing it is another. BTW Nik, how many kids have you raised?

 

[Pundit]

<< Saying that a child has ADD is an excuse for not raising them with self-control to begin with. >>


And from many of the replies in this thread, neither were their parents.

 

[veryape]

<< i'm tellin u, parents have to be willing to spank their children. we have a whole long thread on the spanking thing, but i still feel that spanking is very necessary in raising children. >>

You are not taking into account the homes where there are no fathers where there is a child with ADD who beats the mother, especially when she tries to physically punish him/her. My brother was this way and my mother coundn't control him. If I or my other brother weren't there to beat his ass in he would be my mother up. No matter how much I beat that kid he always came back for more. He's now in jail doing a bullet.

BTW, I am for spanking or physically reprimanding children when it's necessary. I don't agree with closed fist punching, no matter how old or how bad they have been though. Not to mention that jail and losing my children to the state wouldn't appeal to me.

 

[Miramonti]

We have a family staying with us and they have a 3 and 5 year old (or so) and they got into a water fight. So the 5 year old takes off the shower head and takes it outside the shower.

lol. Thats pretty clever for a 5 year old! (not for you guys tho of course. )