RANT:Little kids who destroy stuff

[Mrfrog840]

Ok. This just in. We have a family staying with us and they have a 3 and 5 year old (or so) and they got into a water fight. So the 5 year old takes off the shower head and takes it outside the shower. SPRAYS THE WHOLE ENTIRE BATHROOM DOWN IN WATER. i mean everything is still soaked and my mother is cleaning it up. their parents arent here to spank them... I just took the dreamcast away from them... GRRR...:disgust:

Anyone else have little kids that are annoying as heck?

 

[Nocturnal]

Maybe they have ADD.

j/k

I know how you feel, trust me.

My girlfriends little cousin is a menace to society, literally. Like he has some temper problems. When he gets mad, he beats up the grandma or my auntie. Hes pretty crazy for a 4 year old.

 

[PlatinumGold]

i'm tellin u, parents have to be willing to spank their children. we have a whole long thread on the spanking thing, but i still feel that spanking is very necessary in raising children.

 

[Nocturnal]

<< i'm tellin u, parents have to be willing to spank their children. we have a whole long thread on the spanking thing, but i still feel that spanking is very necessary in raising children. >>



back in the old days, spanking was use a lot. now its spank, and a call to cps, and boom, the child is out of there.

too bad so sad. i think a lot of kids need a good spanking sometimes. and a lot of decipline (sp?) its kinda sad to see the little boy im talking about run over his parents like they were not even there.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Little kids who destroy stuff grow into big kids who destroy stuff unless you beat the crap out of them.

 

[brxndxn]

My parents used to spank my brother and I with a metal barbecue spatula.. It was cool..

One day the spatula broke.. My bro and I laughed sooo hard and we were so relieved (but I think deep down we actually missed the power my parents used to carry).. They went out and looked for a replacement.. but nothing did quite the trick that that BBQ one did...

When I have kids, I'm gonna spank them silly if they disobey.

 

[gotsmack]

I'm not going to spank my kids when I have them. I'm only going to have 2 and I'm going to teach them how to function in a society.

I used to get the tar beaten out of me weekly when I was a kid and all it did was make me better at doing things when noone was looking.

such a barbaric act is for parents who don't know any better.

it just establishes your power over the child to be based on brute strenght and actions will be based on fear of the punishment.

What you shoud strive to do is to instill virtue ethic into children.

 

[bonk102]

spanking used to put kids in their place, why'd parents stop doing it again?

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

<< I'm not going to spank my kids when I have them. I'm only going to have 2 and I'm going to teach them how to function in a society.

I used to get the tar beaten out of me weekly when I was a kid and all it did was make me better at doing things when noone was looking.

such a barbaric act is for parents who don't know any better.

it just establishes your power over the child to be based on brute strenght and actions will be based on fear of the punishment.

What you shoud strive to do is to instill virtue ethic into children. >>

Holy sh!t, what are you gonna do? Pop out a kid that's born 25 years old and can reason? Kids simply can't understand. It's like dog. Dog sh!ts in the house, dog gets a paddlin'. Dog chews on the couch, that's a paddlin. Dog looks out the window, that's a paddlin. Paddlin the school canoe, that's a paddlin.

 

[gotsmack]

There is a difference between children and dogs. The key is effective communication and a proper upbringing that has to start from an extremely early age.

How will I instill virtue ethic into my children? I will teach by example and at the same time let my children know that I am showing them something very important. If a child observes enough good deeds and practices them enough times it will eventually become second nature to them. Thus the definition of virtue ethic.


That means spending lots of time and paying lots of attention to them. Children today don't get enough quality time with their parents.



will continue discussion tomorrow, sleep now.

 

[Squisher]

Beating kids is wrong, however before children can effectively understand the gravity of the situation using spanking to emphasize the importance of a lesson should be allowed in my opinion. This should never be done in anger.

 

[gwlam12]

there is a fine line between discipline and abuse

 

[Spike]

lol, wait till you have kids, they are the terror... or at least I was that would suck to have the bathroom all soaked, good call with the dreamcast

 

[Sluggo]

<< Holy sh!t, what are you gonna do? Pop out a kid that's born 25 years old and can reason? Kids simply can't understand. It's like dog. Dog sh!ts in the house, dog gets a paddlin'. Dog chews on the couch, that's a paddlin. Dog looks out the window, that's a paddlin. Paddlin the school canoe, that's a paddlin.
>>



Why do you paddle your dog for looking out the window?

 

[Stiler]

i remember my mom used to beat the sh!t out of me and my brother for anything, i remember one day. We were working in a field and my mom said we got "to close to each other's row" so i guess that meant to her "they are to close, i must break me a hickory and show them a lesson" to make a long story short, my brother got about 25 licks i got about 10 and my mom got about nothin but a big smile on her face, want to know what happened since she did that to me and my brother? I moved with my dad as soon as i could and my brother lives with her still but he raises hell all the time and gets in trouble.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

I understand Gotsmack, but I just simply don't think it's possible. Most (not all) kids just can't be controlled. I mean lets take my little nephew for example. He was like 6 or so and went to eat with my aunt and uncle with him. He wanted a happy meal, he didn't want what everyone else was having (neither did I, nasty ass Italian food). So he proceeds to cry and scream (waaaaah I want a happy meal I'm a little cry baby) and nothing my aunt or uncle could do should get him to shut up. He wanted one right then and that's all there was to it. Little f'ing nightmare. A good grab and tell him he's about to get the beatdown would have shut his ass up quick. Granted that's not the most tactful way to put it.

I just can't see how things like time out, etc. work. Kids that are young enough to be spanked don't have the concept of time down to really understand what's going on (at least from what I've seen). There's a big difference between a little spank and abuse.

In the words of my grandfather, "Men got out of hand when ass-kicking went out of style"

 

[HOWITIS]

i was never spanked as a kid, and have never been in any trouble with the law, or done any drugs.

you don't gotta hit em to get em to behave. and i know its not PC to call spanking hitting. but what else do you call a hand slapping someone on the ass?

 

[IGBT]

Naa...I just dump em in day care..

 

[thedarkwolf]

"There is a difference between children and dogs."

There sure is. Dogs are a hell of a lot easier to train

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

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<< Holy sh!t, what are you gonna do? Pop out a kid that's born 25 years old and can reason? Kids simply can't understand. It's like dog. Dog sh!ts in the house, dog gets a paddlin'. Dog chews on the couch, that's a paddlin. Dog looks out the window, that's a paddlin. Paddlin the school canoe, that's a paddlin.
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Why do you paddle your dog for looking out the window? >>



Cause he doesn't have kids to abuse yet.

Beating is good for teaching kids either a self-centered 'FU' attitude, or to break their spirit (enough abuse can do that to people, where they just give up on live).

Slight spanking works for some (not all) small kids, and only in some circumstances. When they grow up and get a will of their own the only result will be that of hatred and a will to go against the one doing the beating.

 

[PlatinumGold]

here's the other thread on spanking.

i've seen kids spit in their mothers face. i've seen kids kicking and screaming at their mother. I've seen kids hitting other kids in front of their parents then complaining to their parents about the OTHER kid. if my kid ever did any of those things he would get a spanking and he knows it.

I have 3 kids, oldest is 5 yrs old and he has STRONG value ethics. he won't hit other kids because he feels it is wrong. he has these STRONG ethic values because I instilled them in him since BIRTH. disciplining children contrary to popular opinion begins at birth. children are to be GUIDED by parents. molded by parents. the younger the children the fewer inputs they understand, you can't reason w/ a 7 month old, but you can let him know you disapprove of his actions.

also, different things work for different kids, when my 5 yr old was 7 months old, i tried different forms of discipline, the one he hated the most was sitting in his bedroom alone. he would panic, all other forms of discipline he would cry a bit but he'd get over it quick.

my daughter, who is currently 2.5, doesn't mind time out's in her room. she freaks out when she gets spanked. by freaking out i mean she starts crying uncontrollably and gets a look of real fear in her eyes, a time out, however, just becomes a period of time that she can spend by herself.

kids are different, for anyone to make a hard and fast rule that SPANKING is bad just doesn't understand children. my oldest son would never have survived his baby stage if i had used time outs as a form of discipline, my daughter on the other hand has an equal hatred for spankings.

using the logic of most of you anti spankers you would actually make my oldest son suffer more by eliminating spanking and just using the so called time out.

all of this is w/ the understanding that disciplining children only works if you have already shown them by example that you love them unconditionally. my children and i have that kind of relationship. for them, the biggest part of the discipline is understanding that i have disproved of their actions. in truth my spanking is never severe enough to even leave red marks on their skin. it's not the amount of pain (they inflict more pain on themselves in their everyday play) it's the fact that i am expressing disapproval that really hurts these children and gives them the incentive to behave better.

 

[Hubris]

My sister's kids are very well behaved and she's never spanked them. Hell, she jokingly says she's going to beat them all the time and they giggle and love it.

Kids are not inherently out of control. If they are taught correctly, they will turn out fine. The problem is that a lot of parents don't know how to properly raise their children. There is no magic formula that works with every kid.

My mom used to spank me, but it wasn't often and she didn't ever really hurt me. But she was/is a damn good mother, and I learned to listen. My sister is a good mother who spends a lot of time with her children, and has taught them how to behave.

Of course there are incidents, that's going to happen regardless, but she can do the "I'm going to count to 3" thing and they will listen to her. She doesn't not agree with spanking, she has just CHOSEN not to do it with her kids.They have never thrown a tantrum in public, because my sister has always nipped it in the bud.

Children can be controlled; they can be taught how to act without spanking and without breaking their spirit.

 

[Doggiedog]

I had my 1/12 scale die cast model of my Lexus GS300 completely destroyed by my 1 1/2 YO son. I guess it was my fault for letting him play with it but he completely wrecked it. He broke off all the wheels, dented it everywhere, took off spoiler, etc. Now it'll probably cost me about $50 to get a new one. I can't really blame him though since he is still a baby.

 

[BooneRebel]

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<< Holy sh!t, what are you gonna do? Pop out a kid that's born 25 years old and can reason? Kids simply can't understand. It's like dog. Dog sh!ts in the house, dog gets a paddlin'. Dog chews on the couch, that's a paddlin. Dog looks out the window, that's a paddlin. Paddlin the school canoe, that's a paddlin.
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Why do you paddle your dog for looking out the window? >>



Ever watch the Simpson's?

 

[AU Tiger]

Mrfrog840, you must be talking about my two year old son. We have found him many times sitting on the floor pulling the tape out of his Disney VHS movies. Thankfully we have most of the titles on DVD as well.

We use spanking as one of many punishments, but threatening to send my son to his room has recently become our most effective punishment. Timeout is a joke with my son, maybe when he gets a little older it may work.

Gotsmack, check back with us when you have kids. I have a feeling your kids will be spoiled brats.