I decided to give the latest mandrake flavor a shot when they released 8.2 a few days ago. My policy is that I give redhat or mandrake another chance every point release they have (I don't ever get anywhere, usually end up going back to windows that night). Well I got Mandrake 8.2 and was looking for some information to get wireless working on it. I found a bunch of different sites that had information and I finally thought I would be able to do something with linux. I walk through all the steps to setting up my wireless card, recompile, restart, and BOOM: 10 things pop up with the "failed" message during boot up. Hooray, time to reformat and reload again.
RANT: Linux and wireless
- Thread starter ThaGrandCow
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First hint:
If you truly hosed the configuration of your system, boot up in single user mode to repair the config files. If you use a LILO boot loader, then at the LILO prompt, just type:
linux 1
Where linux is the name of the Linux boot profile, and runlevel 1 represents single-user mode.
If you have more specific errors messages, I'll try to help you diagnose the wireless network setup.
If you truly hosed the configuration of your system, boot up in single user mode to repair the config files. If you use a LILO boot loader, then at the LILO prompt, just type:
linux 1
Where linux is the name of the Linux boot profile, and runlevel 1 represents single-user mode.
If you have more specific errors messages, I'll try to help you diagnose the wireless network setup.
Wireless works just fine if you have a card with a standard chipset, such as a Prism II based card.
yeah ive never heard of people having problems with supported wireless chipsets.
besides, what errors are u getting? a lot of them should be trivial mislocated modules, which is easy to correct. as long as you can boot into single user system, we can walk u through fixing everything. if u rolled your own kernel, what options did u select?
is mandrake using a new journaling file system? ext3 support needs to be patched into the default kernel (what kernel version are u using), reiserfs should be in the latest bare kernels, XFS needs sgi's patches, and JFS needs ibm's patches (i suspect, ive never used jfs, xfs is great for me). if youre trying to boot mandrake using a kernel without support for your filesystem, youre in trouble.
what boot loader are u using? if lilo, did u reference the old/original kernel? try booting that. if u can get to singlue user mode with the original kernel, everything is fine except the new kernel you compile.
how did u compile your kernel? did u read the kernel howto? did u select all the modules u need? did u remember to compile the modules in addition to the kernel (make modules)? lastly, make absolutely certain the optimizations you select (i386 to i686) are correct.
first things first, check to see if u can get to single user mode on the new kernel. then try the old one. if u removed the old kernel or can no longer boot it, try mandrakes rescue utility, it should allow u to boot from the cd to your linux partition.
and dont forget, dont ever go back to windows.
besides, what errors are u getting? a lot of them should be trivial mislocated modules, which is easy to correct. as long as you can boot into single user system, we can walk u through fixing everything. if u rolled your own kernel, what options did u select?
is mandrake using a new journaling file system? ext3 support needs to be patched into the default kernel (what kernel version are u using), reiserfs should be in the latest bare kernels, XFS needs sgi's patches, and JFS needs ibm's patches (i suspect, ive never used jfs, xfs is great for me). if youre trying to boot mandrake using a kernel without support for your filesystem, youre in trouble.
what boot loader are u using? if lilo, did u reference the old/original kernel? try booting that. if u can get to singlue user mode with the original kernel, everything is fine except the new kernel you compile.
how did u compile your kernel? did u read the kernel howto? did u select all the modules u need? did u remember to compile the modules in addition to the kernel (make modules)? lastly, make absolutely certain the optimizations you select (i386 to i686) are correct.
first things first, check to see if u can get to single user mode on the new kernel. then try the old one. if u removed the old kernel or can no longer boot it, try mandrakes rescue utility, it should allow u to boot from the cd to your linux partition.
and dont forget, dont ever go back to windows.
you cant expect things to work perfectly when you don't really know what's going on. if you just made a new kernel, you should have easily been able to boot to the old kernel.
You guys are assuming he did a Kernel upgrade. All I read was a new install of Mandrake 8.2.
Be that as it may I still fail to understand the facination people have with wireless networking.
Just what I want, pay too much for hardware to get less bandwidth so I can surf the net on the john.
It's like a couple of gradeschoolers with walky talkies. Oooooooh.....AHhhhhhhhh.
Sorry for the "wireless" rant.
Be that as it may I still fail to understand the facination people have with wireless networking.
Just what I want, pay too much for hardware to get less bandwidth so I can surf the net on the john.
It's like a couple of gradeschoolers with walky talkies. Oooooooh.....AHhhhhhhhh.
Sorry for the "wireless" rant.
Linux is the only operating system I was able to take the hard drive out of one computer and put it into another computer and boot without reinstalling or changing a single configuration item and had it boot correctly the first time. I would suggest that if you think you need to format anything after making changes that you really don't know the operating system well enough to be even making changes to it.
Lets see, where do I start here?
<< yeah ive never heard of people having problems with supported wireless chipsets.
besides, what errors are u getting? a lot of them should be trivial mislocated modules, which is easy to correct. as long as you can boot into single user system, we can walk u through fixing everything. if u rolled your own kernel, what options did u select? >>
Brand new install of Mandrake 8.2 from a format
<< is mandrake using a new journaling file system? ext3 support needs to be patched into the default kernel (what kernel version are u using), reiserfs should be in the latest bare kernels, XFS needs sgi's patches, and JFS needs ibm's patches (i suspect, ive never used jfs, xfs is great for me). if youre trying to boot mandrake using a kernel without support for your filesystem, youre in trouble. >>
Yes, xfs3 is installed as the default filesystem.
<< what boot loader are u using? if lilo, did u reference the old/original kernel? try booting that. if u can get to singlue user mode with the original kernel, everything is fine except the new kernel you compile. >>
definitely LILO. I'm not sure what you mean about referencing the old kernel.
<< how did u compile your kernel? did u read the kernel howto? did u select all the modules u need? did u remember to compile the modules in addition to the kernel (make modules)? lastly, make absolutely certain the optimizations you select (i386 to i686) are correct. >>
I applied the patch and did the make/make install/whatever's after that. I kept everything what it was before except I changed one option that I was told to in the wireless HOWTO
<< first things first, check to see if u can get to single user mode on the new kernel. then try the old one. if u removed the old kernel or can no longer boot it, try mandrakes rescue utility, it should allow u to boot from the cd to your linux partition. >>
It's too late for that, I nuked the partition and I'm going to start over again probably later tonight.
<< and dont forget, dont ever go back to windows. >>
Thats the goal. We'll see how I'm able to do it.
<< yeah ive never heard of people having problems with supported wireless chipsets.
besides, what errors are u getting? a lot of them should be trivial mislocated modules, which is easy to correct. as long as you can boot into single user system, we can walk u through fixing everything. if u rolled your own kernel, what options did u select? >>
Brand new install of Mandrake 8.2 from a format
<< is mandrake using a new journaling file system? ext3 support needs to be patched into the default kernel (what kernel version are u using), reiserfs should be in the latest bare kernels, XFS needs sgi's patches, and JFS needs ibm's patches (i suspect, ive never used jfs, xfs is great for me). if youre trying to boot mandrake using a kernel without support for your filesystem, youre in trouble. >>
Yes, xfs3 is installed as the default filesystem.
<< what boot loader are u using? if lilo, did u reference the old/original kernel? try booting that. if u can get to singlue user mode with the original kernel, everything is fine except the new kernel you compile. >>
definitely LILO. I'm not sure what you mean about referencing the old kernel.
<< how did u compile your kernel? did u read the kernel howto? did u select all the modules u need? did u remember to compile the modules in addition to the kernel (make modules)? lastly, make absolutely certain the optimizations you select (i386 to i686) are correct. >>
I applied the patch and did the make/make install/whatever's after that. I kept everything what it was before except I changed one option that I was told to in the wireless HOWTO
<< first things first, check to see if u can get to single user mode on the new kernel. then try the old one. if u removed the old kernel or can no longer boot it, try mandrakes rescue utility, it should allow u to boot from the cd to your linux partition. >>
It's too late for that, I nuked the partition and I'm going to start over again probably later tonight.
<< and dont forget, dont ever go back to windows. >>
Thats the goal. We'll see how I'm able to do it.
Tiger,
It's very simple. Wireless networking means we don't have to hire an installer to cleanly network our home, or even worse, to do it yourself and have CAT5 cable snaking all over the walls.
Secondly, the throughput of the wireless LAN is faster than that of the Internet WAN connection. Ping times are also pretty low. So to use your example, you can browse the Internet from the john at the same speed as you could from a wired Ethernet connection.
It's very simple. Wireless networking means we don't have to hire an installer to cleanly network our home, or even worse, to do it yourself and have CAT5 cable snaking all over the walls.
Secondly, the throughput of the wireless LAN is faster than that of the Internet WAN connection. Ping times are also pretty low. So to use your example, you can browse the Internet from the john at the same speed as you could from a wired Ethernet connection.
I'm about to attempt this task as well, but have Linksys hardware. Has anyone successfully got wireless networking up and running w/ Linksys hardware on any *nix? (Mandrake obviously prefered)
evans
evans
<< Be that as it may I still fail to understand the facination people have with wireless networking.
Just what I want, pay too much for hardware to get less bandwidth so I can surf the net on the john.
It's like a couple of gradeschoolers with walky talkies. Oooooooh.....AHhhhhhhhh. >>
I have wireless for a few reasons. On my laptop it's nice to be able to walk around my apartment and still be on the network. If its a nice day I can even take it out on my deck and sit there with a drink and keep working. Also, I'm at Virginia Tech. The campus is wired here for wireless networking, so as I'm walking around I can still be on the internet doing whatever it is I'm doing. It's uber cool, and it's the only thing I really care about getting working under Mandrake/Linux. All my power computing is done on my AMD power rig.
<< I'm about to attempt this task as well, but have Linksys hardware. Has anyone successfully got wireless networking up and running w/ Linksys hardware on any *nix? (Mandrake obviously prefered)
evans >>
Good luck. I'm about ready to give up myself and go back to Windows XP.
<<
<< I'm about to attempt this task as well, but have Linksys hardware. Has anyone successfully got wireless networking up and running w/ Linksys hardware on any *nix? (Mandrake obviously prefered)
evans >>
Good luck. I'm about ready to give up myself and go back to Windows XP. >>
You guys give up WAY TO EASY..
Not ONE Of you has said what exact cards your trying to get to work.. not to mention any info or output from your dmesg or whatever...
I have used both D-Link and Linksys cards right out of the box on mandrake..both of them used the Intersil PrismII chipset.. there is nothing to it..
Sort of off on a bit of a tangent, but does anyone know if work is being done do add USB wireless support to any of the Linux distros? I have an ORiNOCO USB wireless client adapter and I would love to use Linux, but I would not have Internet at the current time with my setup. Though, when I get my new laptop, I will have an ORiNOCO PCMCIA card for my wireless so that computer will be OK with Linux, though I'm still undecided as to whether or not I will run it on there.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
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<< I'm about to attempt this task as well, but have Linksys hardware. Has anyone successfully got wireless networking up and running w/ Linksys hardware on any *nix? (Mandrake obviously prefered)
evans >>
Good luck. I'm about ready to give up myself and go back to Windows XP. >>
You guys give up WAY TO EASY..
Not ONE Of you has said what exact cards your trying to get to work.. not to mention any info or output from your dmesg or whatever...
I have used both D-Link and Linksys cards right out of the box on mandrake..both of them used the Intersil PrismII chipset.. there is nothing to it.. >>
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