Rant: Korean TA can't speak english!!!

bigj3347

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so i'm taking macro econ class over the summer, and my TA is this Korean chick. Hard to pronounce non-english first name and heavy accent. The accent makes it difficult for us to understand her but yesterday, we were talking about opportunity costs and comparative advantage when she said:
TA: "the side with the similar opportunity cost has the comparative advantage."

The statement didn't even make sense, similar opportunity cost? She then repeated the same statement four or five times throughout the whole class. I went home and looked it up in the textbook and its supposed to be smaller opportunity cost, not similar.
TA's should clarify lectures, not make them more confusing. I'm not hating on Koreans either, she could've just as easily been japanese or chinese or european for all i care but this is just absurd, she's making thigns even more confusing. Just had to rant about the pathetic stature of TA's these days, haven't had any that really did anything but waste my time.
 

JoeKing

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Originally posted by: zippo
Yeah I hate all foreign TAs...actually i hate all TAs

seriously, I went to this Uni to work with a PROFESSOR not his photocopying monkey.



though I shouldn't really hate that much, as I was the photocopying monkey my last semester :p
 

Zee

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yeah i had korean calc ta back when. heavy accent, but she was hot.

lots of guys in the class too coincidentally.
 

jpeyton

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It wouldn't be the college experience without at least a handful of uncomprehensible professors and TAs.

Welcome to college.
 

RedCOMET

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
It wouldn't be the college experience without at least a handful of uncomprehensible professors and TAs.

Welcome to college.

True that. Although most of my Engineering TAs have been foriegn. The few that were not were pretty cool, and laid back.
 

Crappopotamus

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
It wouldn't be the college experience without at least a handful of uncomprehensible professors and TAs.

Welcome to college.

yep. ive just started my university career and ive already come across a few.
 

magomago

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Live and learn. I have had professors that can't even speak right. Besides, its econ~ read the book and you should be able to get 80% of that stuff. Any other questions? go to professor's office hours.

But I classify English as second language professors in a few categories:

Category 1: This is a professor that cannot speak English and relies on phrases or words. In fact, their English proficiency is sooo bad, that while you know they are an absolute genius in their respective field, you wouldn't doubt that a 3 year old would have a higher ability to comprehend in English. These professors feel bad and general give sample tests that are very very very similar to the actual midterm and final. Therefore this SHOULD be a desirable teacher, but regretfully many people drop the class before they learn of this. But for those who stay it is heaven because you essentially have the answers, but at the same time its a bane because the average score is always above an 80 which means straight scale so if you want that A you have no room for mistakes

Category 2: This professor tries VERY hard to teach and help you guys. In fact, they will try and stutter (I?ve actually had a professor just start speaking in Japanese to finish off what he was trying to say hoping that we would understand somehow) trying to get their point across. and then usually turn lecture into a "learn by example" class. This is VERY good if you are the type that learna by example, and if the class is problem based (math is the perfect example). By doing many examples, and using general phrases such as "and then you do this. understand? Just watch, and after this I will do another" and by learning from these example they essentially give you the test. To me this is a desirable teacher providing that theory isn't something I?ll apply for the specific topic (if it is, I'll look to another professor), but students generally avoid category 2 professors

Category 3: This professor speaks fine...providing you stay on the subject of study. They can detail just fine for hours in their specific subject, but ask them what they did over the weekend and they begin to falter and stutter trying to apply the word "partial differential" to a daily task that they are not sure how to say. In general these are EXTREMELY good professors, but they also give challenging tests. This is the perfect class for those who really want to learn and get the material. I personally don't mind them (And they are my favorite for math class) because they spend a good deal of time preparing for lecture, and homework is usually pertinent for the subject.
In rare instances, sometimes the opposite is observed: my friends at University of New Mexico had a math professor who couldn't ENUNCIATE the terms properly. They would try, but it sounded horrible~ so things became a little basic. To integrate, differentiate, etc. etc. etc. all boiled down to a simple phrase: cook it. This actually forced the class to pay attention a little bit because you need to know what kind of "cooking" you were doing "Okay guys, you...in.... cook this, and x becomes x^2/2. "

Category 4: Professor has perfect proficiency, but a thick accent. The biggest transgressors are FOB Indians, especially if they have thick accents (a linear relationship on a logarithmic scale exists between the inability to understand lecture as a function of accent thickness). Why? Because they can have perfect grammar and word control, they often descend into monotonous, useless tangents (such as "native speaking? professors). The only thing that separates them and your ?native? professor, is that you can?t understand every 3rd word that exists their mouth. I've heard (and even experienced?my Cell/Mol Engr Discussion class... our Indian TA had such an accent that the Fob Indians who often read books in Sanskrit and listened only to Punjabi trance were complaining about how hard it was to understand him) many horror stories of these professors. People avoid them like the plague, but regretfully often you must live with the choice as they are the only teacher for the class.
All I can say for these professors is to utilize the TAs as much as possible! Skipping lecture is fine (since it usually amounts to fifty minutes of incoherence), so as long as you read the material and attend every discussion section and occasionally visit office hours to get things cleared up
These are also the most often kind of that appear. Words and pronunciation are beaten to death:
Work becomes "Waaaak" ;;; H+ for you chem majors becomes "Hash Plash" (that was from slashdot if anyone picked that up ;));;; Any Organic compound becomes a mess of garble ;) ;;; Energy becomes "Ennngeee" ...If i pulled out my rotational classical physics material I wrote down a MILLION of these, but they are in storage on campus right now so I don?t have access to them...;)

Though ultimately, anyone of than this professor:
English is a first language. He doesn?t know the meaning of PREPERATION, so he copies the pages in the textbook so it looks like he has his own notes, and begins to write down all the SENTENCES (This is a Linear Algebra class) from the book on the board PRESERVING the formatting.
After he rereads what the book has VERBATIM he tells us ?Go Home, think about it and I?m SURE you?ll get it?.

Don?t worry though, I reamed him in teacher evaluations...as did everyone.

 

neutralizer

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Yeah I had a math GSI who had a fobbish English. I dropped the class because I gave up. I couldn't understand a damn thing he said and I'm Chinese too.
 

walla

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i am a TA for engineering courses at the university I attend. Most of the students I instruct are foreign :)
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: walla
i am a TA for engineering courses at the university I attend. Most of the students I instruct foreign :)

Not like your Engrish doesn't give it away, Sherlock.
 

walla

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: walla
i am a TA for engineering courses at the university I attend. Most of the students I instruct foreign :)

Not like your Engrish doesn't give it away, Sherlock.

:thumbsdown: Wow thanks for showing me the error of my ways, Watson.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: walla
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: walla
i am a TA for engineering courses at the university I attend. Most of the students I instruct foreign :)

Not like your Engrish doesn't give it away, Sherlock.

:thumbsdown: Wow thanks for showing me the error of my ways, Watson.

/bows