Call animal control, don't be a dumbass and feed it so it just dies, or catch it and chop its head off with an axe (unless you have a gun and it's legal to hunt where your residence is located).
alkemyst
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They are the type that throws the cat outside at night...where it wonders into some other poor sods yard that has zero tolerance and shoots it.
When I interned at a vet's office, most cats that were outdoors had at least a few BB's show up on x-ray...many were literally riddled.
Many love to brag now they had outdoor cats that pushed 'old age' in cat years, but in reality most kittens don't make it to one year. Also in almost all freeze areas, most populations are heavily cleared each season.
An outdoor cat in suburbia/metropolitan areas is lucky to make it to 4-5.
alkemyst
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Definitely get your pets fixed, unless you are a breeder... but well you probably would be living in a rural area then.
Anyways, I disagree with those saying keeping your cat inside. I have always had indoor/outdoor cats. They go outside at night and chill inside during the day. Yes we have lost some to cars, but honestly they love going outside. They get to roam, kill pests, lay around in the son, and have the whole world as their litter box. Cats are not really meant to be caged up. If my cat goes in your yard and you don't want it there, spray it with a hose, you will see it less.
Anyways, I disagree with those saying keeping your cat inside. I have always had indoor/outdoor cats. They go outside at night and chill inside during the day. Yes we have lost some to cars, but honestly they love going outside. They get to roam, kill pests, lay around in the son, and have the whole world as their litter box. Cats are not really meant to be caged up. If my cat goes in your yard and you don't want it there, spray it with a hose, you will see it less.
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My cat came home one day with a hole in it's side, about a half inch in front of the hip. He was a male, too. At that time, I lived in a very rural area, and thought nothing of letting my cat roam. I later found out it was the neighbor across the street(my only neighbor for 3/4 a mile(with the next neighbor being related to me), that shot the cat; he said he shot him with a 17 caliber pellet gun. My cat had a hole in him for a few weeks, but he's still kickin' around.
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I'd rather feed my dogs and cat than hungry people...that's what charities are for.
bah...spell fail.
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What "main" study are you referring to? Can you give me a link, PM me if you want to keep from cluttering the thread. I'm truly interested.
I'm not a vet, most of my animal knowledge has been gained from using animals models of human disease, and while I think that animal<->human extrapolation in either direction is far from perfect there is a lot of overlap in biological functions and in the absence of other sources of information should be considered valid.
"A twofold excess risk was observed among neutered dogs" with regards to osteocarcinoma.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9691849
"Neutering was determined to be the most significant gender-associated risk factor for development of hypothyroidism."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8175472
"For hemangiosarcoma, spayed females had >5 times greater relative risk than did intact females"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10225598
alkemyst
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I don't have all my sources handy...last I was actively in research on these kinds of things was around 2002...
Cancer Epidemiology Biomarkers and Prevention, Nov. 2002. was one of the articles.
Much of the 'risk' increase is something most wouldn't have to worry about as significant IMHO over the benefits.
If these scientists could test a better control group, I'd have more faith. Even in those studies you linked there is a lot more to the type of dog, it's sex and other factors than just spay/neutering adds.
Most of these articles are taken as gospel by those that don't want to spay/neuter due to financial concerns rather than what's best for the pet.
Cancer aside, the angst a pet must have wanting to reproduce based on it's instinct and not being able to is going to be a far more life long stress than the minor risk of cancer.
The crap people feed their pets is a more significant risk.
Cancer Epidemiology Biomarkers and Prevention, Nov. 2002. was one of the articles.
Much of the 'risk' increase is something most wouldn't have to worry about as significant IMHO over the benefits.
If these scientists could test a better control group, I'd have more faith. Even in those studies you linked there is a lot more to the type of dog, it's sex and other factors than just spay/neutering adds.
Most of these articles are taken as gospel by those that don't want to spay/neuter due to financial concerns rather than what's best for the pet.
Cancer aside, the angst a pet must have wanting to reproduce based on it's instinct and not being able to is going to be a far more life long stress than the minor risk of cancer.
The crap people feed their pets is a more significant risk.
I used to feel that way. After living in Baltimore for ten years I'd rather feed the cats and let the worthless, parasitic junkies starve or freeze. Like I said, I'm not a huge bleeding heart, and I'm not saying people are under some obligation to feed stray cats or anything like that. I just hate irresponsible owners who make the problem worse.
Both my cats are fixed.
The female we got from a no kill shelter we paid to have fixed as part of the adoption fee and the Male i rescued from my Employers tow yard was already fixed when i got him. He was just very malnurished and undersized and infested with fleas, he was obviously a indoor cat someone had abandoned because he was not doing well in the wild. The vet figured he was around 2 years old and had been living in the wild for a year by the amount he was under weight, when i rescued him he was 6.5 lbs now 9 months later he is 11lbs. He looked so sad when i resued him you could see all his ribs and bones sticking out.
The female we got from a no kill shelter we paid to have fixed as part of the adoption fee and the Male i rescued from my Employers tow yard was already fixed when i got him. He was just very malnurished and undersized and infested with fleas, he was obviously a indoor cat someone had abandoned because he was not doing well in the wild. The vet figured he was around 2 years old and had been living in the wild for a year by the amount he was under weight, when i rescued him he was 6.5 lbs now 9 months later he is 11lbs. He looked so sad when i resued him you could see all his ribs and bones sticking out.
Our two dogs came from a rescue, and the stupid cat came from the local Humane Society, all three were fixed when we got them.
Brigandier
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A good cat owner still calls their cat the stupid cat, it makes one feel better about all the crazy shit one does for a cat.
Eh, the good thing about cats is that they're low maintenance. Give them food, water, a litterbox and a bit of entertainment and they're set.
In case anyone cares...
I found the cat again, and decided to keep her. No more living on the street for her (and no more kittens either, I've made an appointment to have her spayed.)
I found the cat again, and decided to keep her. No more living on the street for her (and no more kittens either, I've made an appointment to have her spayed.)
Even though I destest teh kitten cats, good for you
Thanks. Now I'm just hoping she brings me a dead mouse sometime soon. Die vermin, die!
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