Vic
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One of the most controversial critical moves occurred on The Rosie O'Donnell Show when Rosie O'Donnell spoiled the twist ending to the movie before it was in wide release as protest to the perceived violent message.
This move by Rosie is even more odd when you consider that Chuck Palahniuk is gay.
MmmSkyscraper
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who cares? it's some crackpot cult religion. who cares?
on the scale of things i give a damn about, the spread of scientology ranks just above gay marriage affecting the "sanctity of marriage" and right below wondering where my dump goes when i flush it down the toilet...
That's great for you. I find it amusing that you are more than willing to support (or at least not deny) somebody's right to gay marriage but you won't support their ability to rip on celebs. You are certainly a hypocrite.
zinfamous
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EDIT: In retrospect, perhaps Tom Cruise is merely the victim of a career-spanning plight of mis-casting. I can't remember a role that he protrayed where his real-life personality/ability/stature wasn't in conflict. Would you believe this jackass as the last samurai? I didn't think so...or some Irish Immigrant? nah... Also, he's too short to fly F-16s (I'm guessing here....)
perhaps if he had been cast as a douchebag midget with a severe inferiority complex, then he could spin gold. On second thought...he was pretty good portraying a shrimpy fairy boy in "Legend." He should have stopped there.
zinfamous
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Where is this obvious? Is your rationale: "he makes a lot of money, therefore he is a good actor?" Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds when you consider our MTV-driven, shlocky Hollywood over-produced entertainment culture? Do you honestly think the best movies out there, and best actors, are the ones that make the most money...wow.
You have to remember that prominent people wield tremendous influence. Among the masses critical thinking skills are nil, as is painfully evident even among the bright shining good people on ATOT. People are susceptible to influence by publicized attitudes & behavior of the famous, hence politics. E.G.; if a manufacturer convincingly advertises that a famous person uses its product, it profits.
Often, some ignorant person gets a job acting, then attracts attention by spewing opinions on hot button topics that people have strong beliefs about, provoking the reactions OP speaks of.
It really weakens our society and hurts our future that people attend to excess on famous performers & `rock star politicians` instead of to ministers, teachers, scientific researchers, old folks of deep experience, wise people of other cultures, etc.
I?m barely even aware of performers, that's all useless trivia to me, but my current SO reads People Magazine on the machines at her gym so she knows the whole case of anybody in a movie.
zinfamous
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It's not just because he's a bad actor. It's largely due to the fact that what most fo the free world now knows about this guy, he is a very low form of human life. He bought a freaking ultrasound machine to use on his wife? B/c he "can do it better than a trained professional?" WTF??!!!!! This is, of course, one small instance of his vacuous life. But, I don't want to turn this into a bash Cruise thread. I assumed it was already a well-received sport anyway....
Thats makes sense. If you would have mentioned this earlier in the thread I would have understood. Oh well no big deal.
You think that people hate Mel Gibson just because its cool? WTF, Do you remember what he said? Its not cool to say stuff like that I don't care who you are.
Disliking them makes as much sense as liking them for no reason and examining every little details of their lives in magazines, tv shows, and even respected news stations.
The real problem isn't how people feel about them but how people are so flooded with information about them that they feel justified in forming any opinion at all. But since people do believe they know these people, it makes just as much sense to dislike a celeb as to like one.
The real problem isn't how people feel about them but how people are so flooded with information about them that they feel justified in forming any opinion at all. But since people do believe they know these people, it makes just as much sense to dislike a celeb as to like one.
Fern
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Aw come on. These people are "products". They promote themselves as products. That's what being a celebrity is.
Just as with any product - whether an OS or a car, whatever - I feel completely free to express my opinion about said product. So what if its negative? You like it, you can buy it. If I dislike, I can slam it. Celebrity, car, whatever. If I don't like the way it "looks", I'll say so. I don't really need to know anything else about it. Would you get in a huff if I bashed the "Azteck" as an ugly piece of sh!t automobile? Well, a celebrity is a merely a product just the same.
Even worse IMHO, many of thes people think their so-called celebrity status allows, no madates, them to pontificate and moralize from their soap box. Usually about sh!t with which they have no clue.
You get the stage and use for your views. Fine, but its totally appropriate for the rest of us to slam your remarks or moral preaching as we see fit.
Fern
IHateMyJob2004
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People hat ethose people because a majority of people in AMerica can't think for themselves and listen to these blathering morons for advice and knowledge.
And they are role models to the young.
They are hurting america .. PERIOD!
And they are role models to the young.
They are hurting america .. PERIOD!
It's because everyone has an opinion (whether it agrees with you or not) and everyone feels the need to share their opinion with everyone else. Gossip, gossip, gossip.
I don't like Rosie O'Donnell for no good reason. She isn't funny, nor is she a good actress, which sort of isn't a good combination as a comedian and actress. I'm also pretty sure Mel Gibson has earned some of the hate he gets.
Most common reasons:
1. Jealousy/envy. It's hard for one to rationalize how someone else who is perceived as having no talent/not funny/not that good-looking/not educated can somehow earn millions of dollars and has the following of legions of fans.
2. Bandwagon Syndrome. Its cool to join the haters so you have a common ground to relate with. Bashing anything popular is one of America's favorite past time. A good example is boy bands. I grew up during an era when the New Kids rose to stardom. As an ambivalent observor I noticed that the same hardcore fans became bitter haters in a couple of years. I need not mention the macarena.
3. Everyone is a critic (the Windbag Syndrome). People tend to have an unreasonably (delusional?) high opinion of themselves and their opinion. What your mother taught you "if you can't say anything nice don't say it at all" doesn't apply here. What is the perfect target for critique? Celebs, of course. The irony is that if these people spend less energy obsessing over these celebs, these celebs won't gain so much attention in the first place.
1. Jealousy/envy. It's hard for one to rationalize how someone else who is perceived as having no talent/not funny/not that good-looking/not educated can somehow earn millions of dollars and has the following of legions of fans.
2. Bandwagon Syndrome. Its cool to join the haters so you have a common ground to relate with. Bashing anything popular is one of America's favorite past time. A good example is boy bands. I grew up during an era when the New Kids rose to stardom. As an ambivalent observor I noticed that the same hardcore fans became bitter haters in a couple of years. I need not mention the macarena.
3. Everyone is a critic (the Windbag Syndrome). People tend to have an unreasonably (delusional?) high opinion of themselves and their opinion. What your mother taught you "if you can't say anything nice don't say it at all" doesn't apply here. What is the perfect target for critique? Celebs, of course. The irony is that if these people spend less energy obsessing over these celebs, these celebs won't gain so much attention in the first place.
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