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<Rant>: Christians that advertise their Christianity

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<< If you're atheist, you shouldn't have morals. Seriously. What are morals to an atheist? >>


That is the most ignorant statement I have ever read......you are a moron if you think that way.
 


<< however it is true, christians are less likely to do a lot of the things that reck houses. i'm guessing that's why they advertised that way. >>

Yeah keeping their daughter locked up in a Closet for 10 years because she's possesed isn't going to harm the resale value of the home.
 


<< << If you're atheist, you shouldn't have morals. Seriously. What are morals to an atheist? >>

That is the most ignorant statement I have ever read......you are a moron if you think that way. >>



I agree... booooo
 
ok.. xians as a majority aren't going to do things that are more likely to reck the house or lower resale. I'm not sure, but I think the percentage of xians that smoke is lower than general public. also less likely to through wild parties... then again if it's a family, that isn't very likely going to happen anyway.
 


<< Yeah keeping their daughter locked up in a Closet for 10 years because she's possesed isn't going to harm the resale value of the home. >>



If that's your view of Christianity, you are one confused, mis-lead person.
 


<< If that's your view of Christianity, you are one confused, mis-lead person. >>

Hep me Jeebus..Hep Me.

No that isn't my view, it's a reply to the comment that Christians are less likely to cause damage to a house than those who are not Christian. That's an extreme case I mentioned that has been in the news on more than one occasion. Being a Property Manager I've rented to people who said they were Devout Christians ,. They also were practising slobs and spent more time in Church than they did cleaning up after themselves and keeping the lawn in shape.

My point is just because someone is a Christian, Muslim or Athiest you cannot assume that one group is going to be a better tenant than another.
 
interesting to see that the christians really haven't stepped up to bad and said anything about this. But really, maybe it partly has to do with helping out their fellow brothers/sisters. A lot of teh close knit community that you find in religion is partly due to those business dealings.
 
Maybe they are looking for a discounted rental rate.....

Don't christians get 10% lower rate? Or is that just in NJ 😉
 
Well, I've never put on a resume' or an application for rental property or anything like that the fact that I am a Christian. Still, I must "advertise" it pretty clearly since most people who interact with me for any length of time know that I am.

So I guess it depends on what you mean by advertise. It is hard to get people to treat people as a true individuals. One tends to begin analyzing and categorizing and generalizing an individual as soon as one meets them. I would rather be dealt with as an individual and believe that I should treat others with the same respect.

If I did deliberately drop the fact that I was a Christian in a rental situation, I would probably do it because:

(1) I sensed that the landlord might be a Christian as well. I generally try to establish common ground with anyone I meet. That is simply one way of building a good relationship, which is very important in landlord/tenant dealings.

(2) I sensed that the landlord might be hostile to Christians. If so, I would want to know that up front so that I can at least make an informed decision about renting there.

(3) The landlord was Red Dawn and I wanted to see his flaming abilities demonstrated in real life. (j/k)
 


<< (3) The landlord was Red Dawn and I wanted to see his flaming abilities demonstrated in real life. (j/k) >>

Hehehe.. As long as they were nice and had good references (including a good credit report) they could be of any faith (or not) and it wouldn't matter.
 


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<< << If you're atheist, you shouldn't have morals. Seriously. What are morals to an atheist? >>

That is the most ignorant statement I have ever read......you are a moron if you think that way. >>



I agree... booooo >>


Atheists are people who don't need gods or prophets or bibles or heavens or hells. AFAIC, those are all products of Man, devices that were thought up for various reasons: to give "meaning" to life, to explain the origin of life, to encourage (forcibly) "proper" behavior, to give people "something to believe in", etc. Some people need that, others don't. To call atheists without morals is very ignorant.
 


<< Sociology, Phychology, and neurophysiology? Well, I would believe the first two fall under some sort of conformity, but neurophysiology is interesting. Are you proposing that people are born with morals? I'm not very educated in this matter. I didn't mean to say Atheists are bad people, but I didn't think they believed in absolute morals. >>


Neurophysiology has ALOT to do with morals. Defiencies and surpluses in neurotransmitters such as oxytocin, serotonin, dopamine, etc. can dramatically change the way a person reacts to the world. It can change the way a person reacts to situations, and even determine whether or not a person cares about the way the effect others at all.
 
some people are just self-righteous - period.......not just about religion.

There are a lot of people who have their heads so far up their a$$, they cant see what complete idiots they look like to the rest of the world.....just my 2c.
 


<< There are a lot of people who have their heads so far up their a$$, they cant see what complete idiots they look like to the rest of the world.....just my 2c. >>


😀 It affects us all at one point or another.
 
Ha ha "Ferengi family with dog seeks house rental....."

Think that'd get a response? 😉

Statements like "Christains are less likely to throw wild parties/smoke/whatever" really shows a lack of knowledge about people. People will do what they want regardless of religion/lack thereof. I've know just as many 'bad' Christains as I do 'bad' atheists, etc.

And the attitude that atheist are morally deficient because they don't 'beleive in god' is a very ignorant attitude as well. Mmost atheists are very moral people, just as most people of religion are moral.
 




<< I wouldnt rent them my place. >>




lol

it does annoy me the Chrisitians are some how better than everyone else...grrr
 


<< People can be whatever religion they choose, as long as they don't bother me. I hate it when they try to "convert" you and try to get you to go to their events and picnics and crap.

Sorry, taking up your rant thread, and it's not even really the same thing. >>



I agree with you, which is one reason I don't like missionaries, they do good but they also hurt the people at the same time.
 
i see plenty of ads with people advertising their sexual preference, especially people who are looking for a place to live or for a new roomate, why aren't you pissed about that, oh yeah, its ok if you bash religion,



<< If they rented to someone who was Christian because they didn't want to rent to the atheist then that would be discrimination. >>



no, its called that persons given right to rent THEIR room to anyone they want to,



<< exactly the kind of ignorant christian that pisses people off. you can't have morality without religion. and the taliban must be moral men >>



this post is ignorant, how much can you assume, somebody can't be proud to be christian, maybe they would only like to live where their beliefs would be welcome, they sure wouldn't want to live with the likes of you people who automatically hate and think they're idiots because they believe in religion, oh yeah thats a good comparison to the taliban, because the they believe in a religion, everyone one else that believes in a religion is evil, so all atheists are like Hitler because he was an atheist, good call
 


<< so all atheists are like Hitler because he was an atheist, good call >>

Hitler was an Occultist.. another form of Religion.

You do make a good point though BigDog. If a Christian was looking for a room to rent it would make since that he would want to live where his beliefs were accepted, just like a Satanist would want to live where his beliefs are accepted and the same thing would go for a Neo Nazi or an Occultist like Hitler.

" What was the name of our new Tenant? Adolph who??"

Of course that is a farfetched comparison as Christians haven't beliefs that seem abnormal to the majority of society. But the point is a Christian who is looking for a room to rent might want to rent a place were there's certain type of atmosphere that may be a little more welcoming to his beliefs.
 


<< Why do they feel the need to say they're Christian?
They're probably hoping for a Christian landlord

Do they think that people will assume they're better than people who don't say they're Christian?
No, just better than people who aren't Christian. >>





well maybe they wont trash the place but they will probably have lynchings cause all Klan members are Christians, and they'll probably be slave traders cause its ok according to the bible(check out leviticus its full of dumb things) , and hey maybe they can try to commit genocide like the nazi's who were also christian (/edit/ and occultist). Or maybe they can try and kill people in a distant land because they feel its their christain duty like the crusdaes. all of thats ok though at least they wont be pagans.



man you should really look at what your saying. christians are better then non-christians, yeah right!
 
I don't see a problem with identifying one's-self as a Christian when looking for a rental as there are many perfectly innocuous reasons for doing so, such as seeking a Christian landlord with whom the tenants would have a common ground. What I do find interesting (and annoying) are the people who assume that all good people are Christian (or some specific religion). I was once described by a person whom I had known for a few months as "a wonderful, caring, compassionate guy, a great Christian." You should have seen the look on her face when I stopped her and told her that I was an agnostic. I've had alot of other people assume from my behavior that I'm Christian as well. However, I will say that the vast majority of these people have not had any problem with my being an agnostic and that the idea that "Christianity = Good Person" seems to be more of a cultural norm than a willful act of stereotyping. This is not to say that it is not a stereotype, just that in my experience it is not something at which people arrive at on their own, but instead something that they have had impressed upon them from their culture and have not had the time or inclination to examine more thoroughly.

ZV
 
To say you are Christian is bearing the name Christ, which holds one accountable to a certain standard.

The standard is that of a servant, self-less, patient, long suffering when wronged, caring for a brother as for oneself.
WOW, who would disagree with someone who professes that as a neighbor?
And no bragging rights here, for each Christian knows that THEY are not responsible for their righteousness.

The big question is does this person really mean what they say and are they willing to be held accountible for that standard, as prescribed by their Lord? Few really will act in that manner and the fuel you are using is the result of your witness to those who bear the name but not head the commands.

But a standard is something to attain to. It is up to each to hold them to that standard if they so choose to proclaim it.

Personally, I try not to let what others do or say determine my happiness. Sometimes it is difficult though.

Good post. Interesting perspectives.


 
Hear me Mighty Nephrodite:

I'm not trying to say that atheists are horrible people. Most of them are intelligent people who aid their neighbor. I even thought of myself as a good person when I was an atheist. My point is that there have been many threads here about our nature as human beings. I remember one in perticular that was about aboslute morals. In it many atheists posted remarks like "there are no aboslute morals, only societal" and "we are not born with a sense of right and wrong." That is my point. Of course I understand that people don't want to kill because they wouldn't want to be killed. I only wanted to illistrate that atheists shouldn't believe in absolute morals, if they are staying true to their world-view.

edit: In all of our discussions I have treated you with respect, and I would hope to have earned more respect with you, Nephrodite, then the instant flare of "ignorant Christian".
 
Thanks for the reference thread, guys. Next time a thread comes up where everyone starts calling people of various religions bigots, I'll point them to this thread.
 
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