Rant* Bought a car last week and took it to get smogged today and it failed.

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MuffD

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Car runs really good and is in great shape but failed smog today. The guy I bought it from said it smogged fine last year. I know that's a year ago but I didn't think that one year would make a difference, especially on an Acura.
 
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notfred

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If you're in California, the seller is responsible for smogging the car. I don't know the exact details of it, but you should be able to return the car or have him pay for repairs.
 
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MuffD

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
What failed?
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There were two things that failed:
(Please keep in mind I forgot what these stand for)
1. HC (PPM)
Test 15mph Max allowed is 121 My car measured at 135
Test 25 mph Max allowed is 96 My car measured at 136

CO(%)
Test 15mph Max allowed is .76 My car measured at 1.21
Test 25mph Max allowed is .65 My car measured at 1.61


 
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notfred

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Originally posted by: muffstah
I'm also thinking this has to do with emissions.
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You think?
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MuffD

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Taken from the DMV website...mucho thanks to Tyler.

Requirements after selling a vehicle.

When selling a California registered vehicle, the registered owner of record must:

Release ownership by signing on line one of the title.
If the vehicle is, or was financed, a name will be in the legal owner section and their releasing signature is required on line two.

Provide the purchaser with evidence of a valid smog certification.
Smog certificates are good for 90 days from the date of inspection. The smog certification is not required if the owner or buyer signs a statement that a smog certificate was submitted with renewal fees within 90 days prior to the transfer date (a vehicle inspection report may be required for proof of certification).

Provide the odometer mileage if the vehicle is less than 10 years old (Vehicle/Vessel Transfer and Reassignment Form, REG 262). If the title does not have a designated space for this information, a REG 262 reporting the odometer milage must be signed by both the seller and buyer. The REG 262 cannot be copied, an original must be submitted. To obtain a form by mail, call DMV's automated phone service 24 hours a day, 7 days a week at 1-800-777-0133. To speak to an operator call between the hours of 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. Monday - Friday, Pacific Standard Time, or pick one up from your local DMV.

Complete a Notice of Release of Liability (REG 138) and mail the notice to the DMV address on the form. The seller is responsible for reporting the change of ownership to DMV within 5 days from the date of sale. It is important to do this as soon as possible, because after DMV updates the information from the REG 138, you will be cleared from future liability on the vehicle. The purchaser is responsible for reporting the change of ownership to DMV within 10 days from the date of purchase
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Originally posted by: muffstah
Originally posted by: Quixfire
What failed?
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There were two things that failed:
(Please keep in mind I forgot what these stand for)
1. HC (PPM)
Test 15mph Max allowed is 121 My car measured at 135
Test 25 mph Max allowed is 96 My car measured at 136

CO(%)
Test 15mph Max allowed is .76 My car measured at 1.21
Test 25mph Max allowed is .65 My car measured at 1.61
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Your engine is running rich, which has multiple causes, but most likely bad Oxygen sensors or a Mass Air Flow sensor.
 
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TheBloodguard

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I hope the test was redone or when the catalytic converter was warmed up enough. I have seen plenty of cars passing the second time when the first test failed. YMMV
Was this a test only station? Year of vehicle?

edit: Just saw your Hydrocarbons and Carbon Monoxide, probably too high to pass on a retest
 
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Spac3d

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Originally posted by: SammySon
F california.
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Yup.





I am not being sarcastic btw.


What do they do if you don't pass the smog emissions. Our cars passed when we used to live there, but I dont think we ever knew the penalties.
 
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8602081

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Sounds like it needs a tune-up.
Put high octane gas and drive it around for an hour and take it in for another test..
 
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Ryan

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ANd this is why I love living in Florida, NO EMISSIONS TESTING AT ALL! :p
 
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MuffD

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I just called and emailed the seller so hopefully we can have a good resolution to this problem. The guy I bought the car from was really cool so I hope I don't encounter any problems with this.
 
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Originally posted by: Tyler
If you're in California, the seller is responsible for smogging the car. I don't know the exact details of it, but you should be able to return the car or have him pay for repairs.
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Yes, this is true.

 
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Sundog

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Sorry the car didn't pass. I had no idea....If you deliver it back to me (in MN) I will refund your $$. ;)

 
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