Rangel(tax committe chairman) failed to report assets

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Jiggz

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: bbdub333

Has Bush been proven guilty of anything?

No? I'm sure we can count on you to let us know when he has. :roll:

YES IT HAS! It hasn't happened in a court of law... YET. Hopefully, it will be coming to a courtroom in the near future, but the answer is a definite YES!

RedChief suggested Richardson is guilty of something... maybe..., but he couldn't even define any crimes he believed Richardson committed. Since the DOJ dropped their investigation of Richardson, I suggested he should go out and find the evidence to support his allegations.

I have often posted that I believe your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal are guilty of murder, treason, torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity, AND I've included credible links to facts, statements, names, dates and statutory citations to support those charges.

That IS proof that they are guilty. It has not YET been presented in a court of law, but unlike Richardson's case, it has not been dismissed by the Department of Justice.

If you really need the refresher course, I'll be glad to repost one of my "macros" to make the point, yet again.

Of course, you'll have only yourself to blame when reposting them renews all of my links in Google's search database and brings them to the top of their search returns. :light:

Bush found guilty? Where? in a KANGAROO court? Mutually, Redchief was also accurate to say Richardson was also found guilty, in a KANGAROO court! Ladies and gentlemen, P&N Kangaroo Court is now in session, Hon. Judge Harvey is the presiding . . .HOOOYAAAAH.

Sorry to see you're so reading challenged. I said Bush was not YET found guilty in any court of law. I said he is guilty of specfic charges, including murder, treason, torture, war crimes and other crimes against humanity, and I have posted evidence to support those charges.

Challenge me on it again, and I WILL post AT LEAST one of my saved, formatted text files to refresh your failing memory.

All I did was challenge RedChief to support his allegations regarding Richardson with the same kind of evidence... IF he can.

BTW -- Thanks for bumping the thread. Google shows a new reference to one of my forum posts at the top of the search page since I last replied in this thread. Puh-lee-e-e-e-eze keep quoting me and bumping the thread. :thumbsup: :laugh:

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Patranus
How do you "forget" to declare a checking account with $500,000 in it?

I could see forgetting about it if it was in your freezer, but in a checking account?

Republican or Dem, when they get caught they need to be kicked to the curb and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if they have broken it.

Indeed

 

[RedChief]

Originally posted by: Harvey
All I did was challenge RedChief to support his allegations regarding Richardson with the same kind of evidence... IF he can.

Heres the deal. Richardson was being investigated for a pay-for-play deal. The investigation was ongoing until it was killed by high level people in the justice department. Whether Richardson was guilty or innocent is unknown...and it will probably never be known. This is because political appointees in the Obama justice department killed the investigation.

Now, my initial comment of

Sorta like former NM gov Bill Richardson?

that seems to get you all hysterical was something called Sarcasm. In case you are to dense to understand simple sarcasm, its simply this: Its all well and good to be in favor of throwing out crooked politicians, but if the investigations into politicians are killed by other politicians, then our entire system is a joke.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: RedChief

Originally posted by: Harvey
All I did was challenge RedChief to support his allegations regarding Richardson with the same kind of evidence... IF he can.

Heres the deal. Richardson was being investigated for a pay-for-play deal. The investigation was ongoing until it was killed by high level people in the justice department. Whether Richardson was guilty or innocent is unknown...and it will probably never be known. This is because political appointees in the Obama justice department killed the investigation.

Now, my initial comment of

Sorta like former NM gov Bill Richardson?

that seems to get you all hysterical was something called Sarcasm. In case you are to dense to understand simple sarcasm, its simply this: Its all well and good to be in favor of throwing out crooked politicians, but if the investigations into politicians are killed by other politicians, then our entire system is a joke.

Gosh ...

Forum policy prevents me from calling you a dumb ass, but do you think the failure of not one, but two Grand Juries from issuing a bill of indictment may have had anything to do with that?

I'm guessing you feel this little fact which goes to the heart of your bullshit should be ignored, huh?

Why don't you concentrate on improving campaign finance laws and financial reporting, and minimizing & removing special interests from government instead of hoisting yourself by your own petard?

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Underneath that deception lies a couple days off.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Patranus
How do you "forget" to declare a checking account with $500,000 in it?

I could see forgetting about it if it was in cash in your freezer, but in a checking account?

Republican or Dem, when they get caught they need to be kicked to the curb and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if they have broken it.

Indeed

Try to keep track of all your checking accounts that are being use to squirrel away $$$. Remember, the average human has hard time keeping track of information beyond seven items.

Politician's limits are usually 4. remember hs is from NYC not Mississippi (where the pols limits are 3)

Cut the sleaze bag a break. He may have legitimately forgotten where he hid his ill gotten gains

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: bbdub333

Originally posted by: Harvey

Has Bush been proven guilty of anything?

No? I'm sure we can count on you to let us know when he has. :roll:

Once again proving that you are the Craftsman of political tools.

Harvey chose the parrot aviator for a reason

 

[Genx87]

A tax cheat? Sounds like he is now eligible for cabinet level duties. Sign him up!

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Patranus
How do you "forget" to declare a checking account with $500,000 in it?

He's a democrat, it was an accident.

And any investigations into wrongdoing will silently fall by the wayside and all his troubles will disappear.

 

[Underclocked]

Yep, Rangel's mental lapses are surely due to the evils suffered at the hands of the Bush administration.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Patranus
How do you "forget" to declare a checking account with $500,000 in it?

He's a democrat, it was an accident.

And any investigations into wrongdoing will silently fall by the wayside and all his troubles will disappear.

Democrats make the rules, they don't have to abide by them.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Will Timmy Geithner be investigating this matter? He is intimately familiar with the ins-and-outs of being a tax cheat. Or maybe Tom Daschle will be brought in as a "special outside investigator with extensive experience evading tax laws"?

 

[waggy]

ugh fire his ass now.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Republican or Dem, when they get caught they need to be kicked to the curb and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if they have broken it. If not, then they need to lose their seniority and whatever leadership positions they hold in Congress. This is bullshit.

But if they did that, Obama would lose half of his administration.

 

[RedChief]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: RedChief

Originally posted by: Harvey
All I did was challenge RedChief to support his allegations regarding Richardson with the same kind of evidence... IF he can.

Heres the deal. Richardson was being investigated for a pay-for-play deal. The investigation was ongoing until it was killed by high level people in the justice department. Whether Richardson was guilty or innocent is unknown...and it will probably never be known. This is because political appointees in the Obama justice department killed the investigation.

Now, my initial comment of

Sorta like former NM gov Bill Richardson?

that seems to get you all hysterical was something called Sarcasm. In case you are to dense to understand simple sarcasm, its simply this: Its all well and good to be in favor of throwing out crooked politicians, but if the investigations into politicians are killed by other politicians, then our entire system is a joke.

Gosh ...

Forum policy prevents me from calling you a dumb ass, but do you think the failure of not one, but two Grand Juries from issuing a bill of indictment may have had anything to do with that?

I'm guessing you feel this little fact which goes to the heart of your bullshit should be ignored, huh?

Why don't you concentrate on improving campaign finance laws and financial reporting, and minimizing & removing special interests from government instead of hoisting yourself by your own petard?

Forum policy prevents me from calling you an ignorant slut also. Let me ask you this, how excited were you when Tom Delay was indicted? And how many Grand Juries did it take to indict him (4 iirc).

Just because the evidence hadn't been uncovered doesn't mean that the investigation should have ended. The investigation should have been dropped when the career prosecutors decided to drop it. Not when the political appointees decided to make it go away. Why shouldn't the career prosecutors be allowed to do their jobs?

Campaign finance reform is a joke. Every time we make campaign donations more restrictive, we only make the system more convoluted so you don't know who is representing who. I'm all for full disclosure. If you give any amount above a nominal amount (say $20), that donor needs to be disclosed on a public website. At the same time, we have way to many restrictions on donations (McCain Feingold is a affront to the 1st Amendment).

BTW, your comment about removing special interests from government is one of the most naive statements I've seen. Its almost a law of nature in that when you have Government of any kind, you have special interests either rent seeking or wanting to exert pull on that government. Thats how is been not only since this country was founded but since government was first concieved of. Additionally, what is a special interest. Or is it those special interests you want removed are just those who represent causes/organizations you don't like?

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Special glasses allows me to see through your smoke screen of forum policy.

Underneath that deception lies a couple days off.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

 

[BarrySotero]

Now it turns up Rangel put things in the steal-care bill to make IRS harsher


WASHINGTON -- Even as he fends off accusations about his own failure to pay taxes and fully disclose his financial dealings, Rep. Charles Rangel had quietly slipped into the health-care bill broad new provisions cracking down on taxpayers in proceedings with the IRS, The Post has learned.


The changes approved by the House Ways and Means Committee that Rangel chairs would strip away legal defenses and pile higher penalties on corporate and individual taxpayers facing IRS proceedings for what they claim are unintentional mistakes, experts said.

Rangel's bill would:

* Punish those who fail to alert the IRS to potentially questionable tax exemptions.

* Bar the IRS from waiving penalties against taxpayers who clearly erred in good faith.

* Double fines in certain circumstances.

"The bill raises penalties and eliminates many of the reasonable defenses that taxpayers have always been able to use when honest mistakes are uncovered," one lawyer told The Post.

In fact, the bill increases fines "in some cases even for honest mistakes," the expert added..



The Rangel plan also would prevent the IRS from waiving punishment in cases where tax officials thought the penalty was excessive.

Under another provision, the IRS would require that taxpayers self-report areas where they may have gone over the line seeking tax advantages. If they fail to self-report and problems are found, tax penalties skyrocket.

The IRS becomes "judge, jury and executioner," said a lobbyist.


HYPOCRITE CHARLIE: PUNISH TAX SLIP-UPS
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09...ax_slip_ups_187541.htm

 

[kranky]

The time when people like Rangel would worry about getting the boot are long gone. The voters have proven that they will re-elect nearly any "celebrity" politician - someone who is well-entrenched, is in the media a lot, and can wield enough power to shower his district with federal money.

Isn't this the same guy who paid his son's company $70K out of his campaign (legally) to set up two websites an amateur could have done in a day with FrontPage? Legal, but just more enrichment. No other congressman paid more for internet websites.

He's paid more than $1 million in legal fees over this pseudo-investigation. Actually, he didn't pay, his campaign funds did. Why should he spend his own money?

I don't think he'll face any charges, nor will he step down, and whenever he's up for re-election he'll trounce the opponent. The voters don't care... just keep bringing home those federal grants so he can funnel the money to his supporters.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Patranus
How do you "forget" to declare a checking account with $500,000 in it?

He's a democrat, it was an accident.

And any investigations into wrongdoing will silently fall by the wayside and all his troubles will disappear.

Good one Rudder!!!

It also helps to have sent campaign contributions to 3 of the people on the ethics committee that is investigating you!

Story.

I am glad to see such change has come to Washington.