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Random Vent about FS/FT - In General why is 90% overpriced?
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waggy
No Lifer
its not being unrealistic. The Xbox Was a exeption. there was not very many to be baught. so you had no choice but to buy one for a markup price.
but 99% of the stuff for sale should not be near retail price. IF used thent hey should be discounted by a good deal.
If i have a choice between a used item and a new item +10% i will go buy the new item.
as for lowball offers sometimes they work sometimes they do not. I do not get offended by what anyone offers me for something. If its a real bad offer i just ignore it. if its close to what i will take i counter-offer. if its withint the amount i want i accept it. no reason to get offended.
KarenMarie
Elite Member
What I am willing to pay, is what I am willing to pay. 30-50% is not written in stone. It would depend on the history of the item, too. A CPU that has been overclocked for months, or an XboX that has been modded.... there is no way that it is worth 10-15% off. I would not even pay 25-30% below retail.
And in my next post, I said:
mugs
Lifer
For something that can be overclocked I would pay a lot less, because I know there are a lot of people who would lie and say it has never been overclocked. I occassionaly venture into FS/FT and I never find anything that strikes me as a really good deal (except sometimes stuff that has already been sold... of course it sold because it's a good deal 🙂).
nope... I dont think... its a used product.. after its been used and unsealed most warranties are VOID.. meaning I cannot RMA the product if it is bad or fails in 6 months without having to pay myself..
items that are used are USED.. it drops thier value extensivly.. you dont know how an item was treated for those 6 months they had it.. and do you really think Im gonna take a strangers word for it?
this on a forum populated by overclocking mad geeks?
nope.. not for 1 second..
I think I should have been clearer, and was in fact responding to your next post. I would rather have a lowball offer then to have someone pm me asking for a lower price on something I'm selling. Ask if I can take $10 off, or $20 off, or whatever you're thinking, but please don't expect a seller who already has to post a price and oblige by it to just drop the price with no basis. Tell me that my price is a little high, you're a little short, anything, but name the discount you'd like or the final price you'd pay and we'll talk about it.
In the F/S forum, I feel its better both sides get a little and walk away from the deal happy. I am fairly open to the condition of my items and would like the buyer to be open about their questions and concerns.
At least thats my take to it.
erikistired
Diamond Member
man there are some people here with some whacked out expectations. it seems some people think fs/t is a swap meet or flea market or something, which is a big reason why i haven't sold much there lately. the things i have put up generate enough interest to get them sold tho, so i guess my pricing isn't too far off.
KarenMarie
Elite Member
I disagree. Unless a seller posts in his thread that his prices are FIRM... then i think it is totally acceptable to PM them and ask if there is any leeway in the prices. It is a respectful question. It is an out in the open request. It is not a haggle, or insulting lowball offer.
As a seller, I would much prefer to have someone approach me in a serious, respectful manner than to just throw a lowball offer out there to see if i will bite and then play the haggle game.
I am not into the game playing. And I think if a seller is gonna drop an extra $10 or whatever, he will say so. But I would never expect a seller to drop $$$ off depending on excuse... I am short of cash... of whatever. If the seller asks me what I am willing to pay, then I will. Sellers are more interested in what they can get for something than in what I want to pay for it.
SarcasticDwarf
Diamond Member
Also note how few people with more than about 2000 posts post in there anymore.
When someone makes an offer they are telling you what they are willing to pay, if the price isn't good enough walk away, if you get insulted by that then you need to visit a country where prices aren't fixed and you have to haggle for everything. Anyone that gets insulted in a sales transaction is a thin skinned little baby. Personally I think anyone that even complains about "lowballing" should take a break from sales because frankly you don't have the maturity to be doing it.
erikistired
Diamond Member
as opposed to people who feel the need to resort to name calling?
not that i have a problem with haggling. i've dropped prices on more than one occasion for someone who asked nicely. but calling people thin skinned little babies is a bit much, especially when you then question THEIR maturity.
Adam8281
Platinum Member
I sell periodically on AT, and sometimes I set my prices a bit high - "optimistic" is probably a better word - because I don't really care that much if it sells or not. Right now I am selling a NIB item that I'd like to sell if I'm able to do so for a very good price, but if not, no biggie. I'll just keep it. I venture to say that many FS items are like that, the seller only cares to sell it if he can get a good price, if not, he'll hang on to it. Unlike eBay where you are committed to selling your item for whatever price it brings - and you have to pay fees for items that do not sell - ATFS/FT allows you to just float an item out there, and if you don't want to sell, you can always change your mind with no penalty. This lends itself to higher than eBay prices.
Just felt like bumping this up one more time, and am glad to see that most people agreed with me.
To all those people that are saying, "I don't care if it sells or not." Well, that is your right, but can you see how that will make people stop even viewing FS/FT? Time is money too, and while sometimes it is actually FUN, lately it has become frustrating.
My Acer laptop challenge was a good example. No one could really touch Buy.com. I just think that is rather sad. There are alot of experts here, maybe people just don't really believe that everyone is pricegrabbing/froogling/ebay browsing then looking for a price that beats ALL of those. Fact is, as buyers, WE ARE.
As far as my comment about buyer protection, I will retract that. I would say it is roughly equal though, I mean if you get scammed you get scammed more or less...recovery will always be difficult - yet another reason to justify the lower price.
To all those people that are saying, "I don't care if it sells or not." Well, that is your right, but can you see how that will make people stop even viewing FS/FT? Time is money too, and while sometimes it is actually FUN, lately it has become frustrating.
My Acer laptop challenge was a good example. No one could really touch Buy.com. I just think that is rather sad. There are alot of experts here, maybe people just don't really believe that everyone is pricegrabbing/froogling/ebay browsing then looking for a price that beats ALL of those. Fact is, as buyers, WE ARE.
As far as my comment about buyer protection, I will retract that. I would say it is roughly equal though, I mean if you get scammed you get scammed more or less...recovery will always be difficult - yet another reason to justify the lower price.
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