random IT bitching: I really hate that nobody gives a Sh17 about mailbox sizes

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rsd

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My work mail limit is 40mb..

Yes 40mb. You have to archive messages to your local drive, and our personal network drive that you can use to "back up" stuff can hold maybe 50-100mb per person.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
What the fuck can you be sending between eachother that has THAT large of attachments? o_O You guys sharing HD Porno and just don't want to delete any?

I'd say the average attachment size is around 1 MB and I know there are more than a few thousand of them in my mailbox. How else are you supposed to file things and keep them organized and searchable and you can get results in seconds?

LOL, that's also my philosophy. Sometimes I e-mail stuff to myself that didn't come via e-mail (manuals, tools, ...)
 

drum

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Originally posted by: kt
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: kt
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: kt
5GB? Only? My company's average is 10+GB per user. That's why we are in the process of implementing an email archiving solution. It's a solution that will satisfy everyone because as far as they know, their emails are still there in their Outlook interface. At the back end, their archived emails are not on the Exchange box but on the archive server. Win, win situation for IT and the rest of the employees. Can't wait to get the budget approved to implement it.

I'm in the same boat.

Have you picked out email archiving solution yet?

We use Legato's Email Xtender, seems to work pretty well

That's one of the product we are looking at, too. They are now owned by EMC. Are you using it with Exchange? If so, how many Exchange servers do you have in your environment?
We are implementing that as we speak. I just racked a new switch and server to host it.
We have 1 exchange 2003 server. We'll be upgrading Exchange later this year.
We use EMC Avamar as a server/workstation backup.
 

kt

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Originally posted by: drum
Originally posted by: kt
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: kt
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: kt
5GB? Only? My company's average is 10+GB per user. That's why we are in the process of implementing an email archiving solution. It's a solution that will satisfy everyone because as far as they know, their emails are still there in their Outlook interface. At the back end, their archived emails are not on the Exchange box but on the archive server. Win, win situation for IT and the rest of the employees. Can't wait to get the budget approved to implement it.

I'm in the same boat.

Have you picked out email archiving solution yet?

We use Legato's Email Xtender, seems to work pretty well

That's one of the product we are looking at, too. They are now owned by EMC. Are you using it with Exchange? If so, how many Exchange servers do you have in your environment?
We are implementing that as we speak. I just racked a new switch and server to host it.
We have 1 exchange 2003 server. We'll be upgrading Exchange later this year.
We use EMC Avamar as a server/workstation backup.

Cool, let me know how that goes. Would be curious to know how well it works too. We won't be implementing it for maybe another month or two.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
What the fuck can you be sending between eachother that has THAT large of attachments? o_O You guys sharing HD Porno and just don't want to delete any?

We have excel spreadsheet (yes, excel spreadsheet, don't get me started) that is 200MB in size...and we email it to clients.
 

mwmorph

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That's crazy, I just checked my work email and it's 767mb, 17k+ emails, every email I have ever received labeled and in the inbox. I have no idea how someone gets close to 5GB.
 

MyThirdEye

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i have no idea why people have to keep emails. it makes no sense to me. once you have read it, if you want to keep it, print it fusking out.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: kt
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: kt
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: kt
5GB? Only? My company's average is 10+GB per user. That's why we are in the process of implementing an email archiving solution. It's a solution that will satisfy everyone because as far as they know, their emails are still there in their Outlook interface. At the back end, their archived emails are not on the Exchange box but on the archive server. Win, win situation for IT and the rest of the employees. Can't wait to get the budget approved to implement it.

I'm in the same boat.

Have you picked out email archiving solution yet?

We use Legato's Email Xtender, seems to work pretty well

That's one of the product we are looking at, too. They are now owned by EMC. Are you using it with Exchange? If so, how many Exchange servers do you have in your environment?

we too are looking at EMC's product along with EV+backup exec, gfi, etc.... We have two exchange servers at our site.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
What the fuck can you be sending between eachother that has THAT large of attachments? o_O You guys sharing HD Porno and just don't want to delete any?

We have excel spreadsheet (yes, excel spreadsheet, don't get me started) that is 200MB in size...and we email it to clients.

wtf :confused:
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
i have no idea why people have to keep emails. it makes no sense to me. once you have read it, if you want to keep it, print it fusking out.

that's a fantastic space/money/environment wasting idea! Why didn't i think of that.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
What the fuck can you be sending between eachother that has THAT large of attachments? o_O You guys sharing HD Porno and just don't want to delete any?

We have excel spreadsheet (yes, excel spreadsheet, don't get me started) that is 200MB in size...and we email it to clients.

wtf :confused:

heh...
 

Pacemaker

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Jul 13, 2001
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Fine if you guys want to cut down all the etrees in the eforest then go ahead, but I won't be a part of it.
 

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
What the fuck can you be sending between eachother that has THAT large of attachments? o_O You guys sharing HD Porno and just don't want to delete any?

We have excel spreadsheet (yes, excel spreadsheet, don't get me started) that is 200MB in size...and we email it to clients.

wtf :confused:

Apparently they are not willing to trust an information system....but a fucking mammoth of a spreadsheet they can't fix is fine :disgust:
 

Special K

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We use an internal implementation of GMail for our work email accounts. It says I have 25GB available :shocked:
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: kt
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: kt
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: kt
5GB? Only? My company's average is 10+GB per user. That's why we are in the process of implementing an email archiving solution. It's a solution that will satisfy everyone because as far as they know, their emails are still there in their Outlook interface. At the back end, their archived emails are not on the Exchange box but on the archive server. Win, win situation for IT and the rest of the employees. Can't wait to get the budget approved to implement it.

I'm in the same boat.

Have you picked out email archiving solution yet?

We use Legato's Email Xtender, seems to work pretty well

That's one of the product we are looking at, too. They are now owned by EMC. Are you using it with Exchange? If so, how many Exchange servers do you have in your environment?

yeah, EMC is working closely with us on the storage necessary as we migrate over from Notes to Exchange. I'm not sure how many servers or gigs of data we have
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
i have no idea why people have to keep emails. it makes no sense to me. once you have read it, if you want to keep it, print it fusking out.

What are you, 75 years old? You're like the old people at work that can barely use a mouse, they print out EVERY EMAIL they get and archive it in a filing cabinet. Your idea is pretty much the worst idea of all time.

Last year they reduced our inbox limit from something around 500 megabytes to 85. EIGHTY FIVE. Last time I checked, file sizes were getting LARGER and hard drive space was getting CHEAPER. Idiots.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
i have no idea why people have to keep emails. it makes no sense to me. once you have read it, if you want to keep it, print it fusking out.
What are you, 75 years old? You're like the old people at work that can barely use a mouse, they print out EVERY EMAIL they get and archive it in a filing cabinet. Your idea is pretty much the worst idea of all time.

Last year they reduced our inbox limit from something around 500 megabytes to 85. EIGHTY FIVE. Last time I checked, file sizes were getting LARGER and hard drive space was getting CHEAPER. Idiots.
Printing it out costs less than storing it on a hard drive, powering the hard drive, having the email application constantly defragging the huge database, and then backing it up.
 

Scouzer

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Our mailboxes are full at 40MB. Beyond 40MB you will simply not receive any new mail. It'll send automated messages a couple times a day to tell you that you're full.

it's a PITA, because you have to archive your email before you go on vacation... can fill up 40MB by not checking email for 3 weeks.
 

Sphexi

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Feb 22, 2005
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Well I spoke too soon. After posting here, our IT people threw a fit about the size of the database on the Exchange server, and the next day we came in and every email over 90 days old was GONE. They archived it all into GFI, ridiculous piece of garbage program.

I asked for specific folders to be returned, ones that contained job aids and important contact info and whatnot, I was told no, and that if I wanted I could keep a backup PST on my desktop computer instead.

So now I'm tying up the whole network/Exchange server, "backing up" several thousand emails :D
 

Saulbadguy

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Symantec enterprise vault ftw.

We've got 3 mailbox servers, 2 EDGE servers and a couple of servers that do nothing but OWA. Also got an EV server that journals all mail. We have archived mail from 1998. EV has eliminated many headaches.

Wish we could do storage quotas thou.