Random check engine light for an EGR Valve

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murphy55d

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05 Dakota. CEL comes on for an EGR Valve, autozone pulled the code P0406 three times. It'll stay on for a few days, stay off for a week, then come back. If its shot, wouldn't the CEL just stay on? If its recurring like this, whats the most likely scenario?
 

njmodi

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EGR valve needs to be replaced. Not too hard to DIY... but not the easiest - sometimes the valves are hard to get to...
 

radioouman

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Originally posted by: murphy55d
Got a quote of $142 + tax, for a new EGR valve to be installed. Sound about right?

Sure, but this is literally two bolts and an electrical connector.
 

murphy55d

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yes, parts included.

radioouman, can you point me to a diagram of such an install? i dont even change my own oil, id have to see exactly what is involved.
 

BW86

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That happened to my old subaru, the valve is probably stuck full of carbon - i pulled the egr valve off and soaked it in carb cleaner. Worked fine afterward.
 

radioouman

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Which engine does your Dakota have?

I've tried cleaning EGR valves in the past, but I haven't had much luck with that. Sometimes they work but usually the check engine light comes back on.
 

radioouman

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On a 2005 Dakota with 4.7 liter engine (non-HO), the EGR valve is located near the intake manifold on the driver's side right up against the firewall. It's hard to spot as it sits lower than the intake manifold.

To change it, remove the electrical connector. There's a red tab that needs to be pushed to one side and then you have to squeeze down on a tab to get it free. Using a 13 mm socket, remove the bolt that you can see. I had to use a 3 inch wobble extention and then a 8 inch extension with a deep well socket to reach it with my 3/8 inch ratchet.

There's a second bolt that you can't see between the EGR valve and the firewall. With a little trial and error and a lot more luck, you can reach the hidden bolt with the 3 inch wobble extension and a 13 mm deep well socket. Attach the ratchet after the socket is on and remove. This one isn't easy and if there's any Dodge engineers reading this one, a couple of extra inches of clearance between the valve and the firewall wouldn't have killed you no matter what the cost accountants said.

With both bolts removed, you should be able to pull out the metal pipe that connects the manifold to the EGR valve out of the manifold (Pull to the right) and then you can lift the valve out.

For assembly, the metal pipe connecting the intake manifold the EGR valve has to be removed and reinstalled on the new valve. It's held on with 2 5/16th" bolts. You should put the rear bolt on tight, but leave the front bold loose for the reinstall as some adjustment is necessary to get it put back together and the rear is a pain to tighten when installed.

Line up the bolts that attach the valve and get the rear 13 mm bolt (The one you couldn't see on disassembly) started. Do not start the other 13 mm bolt as you'll need to pivot the valve and pipe to the left in order to reinsert the pipe into the intake manifold. Once the pipe is in the intake manifold. Start the other 13 mm bolt and tighten both 13 mm bolts and then the 5/16" bolts holding the pipe onto the valve. Reinstall the electrical connection.

Took me and a good friend about 2 1/2 hours. With these instructions, you should be able to do it in about an hour or hour and half. It's a major pain to change because of the tight space that the valve fits into and the less than generous clearances around the firewall.
 

jjmIII

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Originally posted by: BW86
That happened to my old subaru, the valve is probably stuck full of carbon - i pulled the egr valve off and soaked it in carb cleaner. Worked fine afterward.

Did the same on my old 98 F150. You can clean them..
 

AdamK47

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All you need is about 1 to 1 and 1/2 inch of black electrical tape. Place that over the check engine light. It's a pretty quick and simple fix.
 

hydroponik

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Originally posted by: AdamK47
All you need is about 1 to 1 and 1/2 inch of black electrical tape. Place that over the check engine light. It's a pretty quick and simple fix.

But then how are you going to pass inspection :p

But seriously, this part is semi-useless and mostly used for emissions.

I also have the same codes (P0401/0402) but I haven't fixed my car yet.
 
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