Random BSOD's that are getting worse.

[ScottNBNP]

Well today we are going to test my machine with GOOD working ram. If that causes a bsod i will buy a new primary HDD, if that causes a bsod i will buy a new reliable powersupply (most likely some of the brands mentioned here, i won't be buying no name brands again) if that causes a BSOD, i will then be forced to just buy a new motherboard and just accepted a new computer.

This has been a long and stressful journey, when i couldn't figure out what was causing the problem, but now we are in the home stretch, regardless of what it is, i now know its hardware which is super easy to fix. It just might cost me alot more then i had hoped.

I will keep you guys up to date, letting you know exactly what fixed it. I also believe i am going to look around this forum. You guys have been extremely helpful and most of all, nice. Not judging me having my mini freak out, not being able to answer all the questions with the greatest of tech savyness lol, so i appreciate it so much.

Lastly, i still have yet to update my bios, but at this point if i am gonna replace the motherboard i don't see a point.
Someone messaged me and asked me where did i get the number from for the version? That was the @bios version. I downloaded @bios, but i don't think that's all i had to do, because if click on the bios drop down i see things like F12 and all that. My current bios number is F8. But now that i know it's not my bios because even my old graphics card (which is fine) is causing the BSOD, i know now it's not a bios confliction, but would still be handy to know how to upgrade a bios in the future haha.

 

[chusteczka]

The current bios version is F13, it seems your motherboard is 5 bios versions behind. While I am not sure if an old bios might cause some of these problems, it may be possible. With that, it would be good to upgrade your bios, but make sure to do it with the good working ram after you have tested it in your system to make sure the ram is working fine and your system is stable.

It is still a good idea to purchase a better PSU.

 

[Burpo]

Do you still have the "Waiting for ME ready" message? That's Intel Management Engine Interface, and may cause issues with whatever video card you use. BIOS notoriously having issues & needs to be updated. Intel released new BIOS versions & new IMEI drivers for their own boards for this reason.
Replacing the board is a last ditch effort & probably not needed, if you get rid of the buggy bios.
I'd test it with a dif power supply before replacing the board also. Highly unlikely the board flaked out.

 

[ScottNBNP]

Ok we fixed the Waiting with ME ready error with a bios update.

BSOD, with new ram (so ram is fine)
BSOD, with updated bios.
PSU is stable and even though cheap isn't causing any errors under stress tests.

So i am 95% sure it is the motherboard, i am buying a new one on PCcasegear and having shiped, will try that. So if i BSOD with a new motherboard, i will then replace the PSU. and then if it STILL bluescreen's with absolutely new everything.... well then... i am just gonna cry haha.

 

[ScottNBNP]

Ok, brand new motherboard, new HDD and still

On Thu 24/07/2014 10:32:34 AM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\072414-10202-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: win32k.sys (win32k+0x14D36F)
Bugcheck code: 0x3B (0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF9600019D36F, 0xFFFFF880090BC880, 0x0)
Error: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
file path: C:\Windows\system32\win32k.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: Multi-User Win32 Driver
Bug check description: This indicates that an exception happened while executing a routine that transitions from non-privileged code to privileged code.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time

It's now crashing everytime i load up Neverwinter. -_- i am out of fucking ideas. I am soooo angry.

EDIT: Ok new information. I can cause it NOT to BSOD if i hit play, and not click off onto the other monitor. If i hit play, and click the other monitor it BSOD. However that doesn't explain why it bsod when clicking a video on facebook before, and also when producing a video in PowerDirector.

 

[mikeymikec]

Have you replaced the PSU yet?

 

[ScottNBNP]

No but I'm going to have to. We were so sure it was the motherboard after tests. I was going to replace my psu and CPU next. But apparently pc case gear doesn't have cpus for my new waste of fucking money motherboard.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_1183&products_id=19859

My friend thinks it's interesting that it happens when I start a game and click on chrome on the other monitor. One of them says it could be the CPU and the other says it might be a rare bug in windows.

 

[Burpo]

From 5 days ago..

I'd test it with a dif power supply before replacing the board. Highly unlikely the board flaked out.

 

[Athadeus]

It's going to be the CPU. I ruined a semester at college trying to figure out random BSODs on the rig I built over winter break. Nobody in the dorms was willing to let me borrow their CPU for testing. After replacing everything else and reinstalling Windows, different BIOSes, and different drivers countless times, I didn't really suspect the CPU until I noticed stability improved significantly with HT off. I had a local shop test replacing it and it worked, so RMAd my old P4 to Intel.

I have never seen a power supply cause issues like this, and I have 7 years professional, 16 years total experience working with thousands of PCs. However, I can't be sure, and I'd put the odds at 70% CPU, 10% PSU, 20% something else. GL!

 

[ScottNBNP]

So an update. Since the last format I can't seem (as of now. It might change) recreate the bsod. I have only installed the bare minimal to try and recreate the bsod. But failing to do so all last night. I don't have high hopes that it was software. But it would explain why I couldn't get it to blue screen at friends houses when only having one monitor plugged in.
I THINK the culprit app was Actual Multi Monitors. It's one of the first things I install and I haven't yet and not getting the bsod.
I will keep you posted IF I can get it to bsod without installing anything else I'll replace the psu. If in a week I haven't bsod I'll start installing things one by one and see if I blue screen.

By the way I haven't thanked you guys yet for all the help you've given so far. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

 

[Ketchup]

Good news. Yes, BSOD's caused by apps can be tricky, especially since it usually isn't feasable to share all the software one is running on an online forum.

It does somewhat fit the BSOD, we just weren't looking at the apps working with the drivers.

Fingers crossed.

 

[ScottNBNP]

Yes we wernt but I wouldn't of thought to check applications. I went straight to the hardware bandwagon lol. Though they are tricky to pin point down. So hopefully I can find out what's causing it.

If I bsod within this week without installing any other software. I'll let you guys know. That way if anyone else had the issue we can work out what it was and how to fix it. Thanks again so far.

 

[ScottNBNP]

I think by now we can safely say it was software. Still can't recreate the BSOD. Still haven't installed my multi monitor software.
So annoying but i guess i can leave with it , thank you so much to everyone that helped, but apparently with my set up, it was an app that was causing the crashes.

I will update this if i bsod again without the app installed, but so far, everything is looking good.

 

[Ketchup]

Very good. Have you looked for a replacement app?

 

[ScottNBNP]

Not yet, atm i am just dealing with not having a second start bar on the other monitor. I hear that ultramon is a suitable replacement, but never used it.

 

[stinger608]

Not yet, atm i am just dealing with not having a second start bar on the other monitor. I hear that ultramon is a suitable replacement, but never used it.

When I was using two monitors I used DisplayFusion. Worked great and never had any crashes due to it.

http://www.displayfusion.com/

They have a 30 trial on their pro version.

Worth giving it a shot before paying for it.

 

[ScottNBNP]

Well tests so far with Display Fusion are good, no BSOD yet. Will give it the 30 days and let you know <3

 

[ScottNBNP]

Just wanted to give a quick update, still no issues at all. So i can safely say it was software related.

I want to thank everyone for all their help. I will be keeping an eye out on this forum, some really nice people here. Thank you again