JulesMaximus
No Lifer
- Jul 3, 2003
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It is...against humans. The problem is that the .357 Magnum round is about the same bullet weight as a 9mm, it is just moving faster. Bears have a thick skull, a very sturdy skeletal system, a heavy coat and a lot of fat and muscle. .357 Magnum would not have much stopping power against a 400+ lbs bear. It might die eventually from the wounds but it would not stop an attack or put a bear down immediately unless you get an extremely lucky shot.
I am looking at the .45acp, .357, and .44 magnum rounds. Clearly a difference between the .44 and the other two.
- Mar 20, 2000
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ftfy. not many bears in texas but there are plenty of cougars in the western part of the state.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
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Get the hottest .44 Magnum round you can buy pushing the heaviest bullet. I have a lever action .44 Magnum rifle and a S&W model 629 .44 Magnum handgun with an 8" barrel. Either would do as bear defense but the handgun would be more "campsite friendly" as it is easier to keep out of sight.
For hiking I'd go with something like the S&W Mountain Gun which is a .44 Magnum with shorter barrel and made out of lightweight materials...it is a punishing gun to shoot though especially with hot rounds.
Kirby
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PricklyPete
Lifer
- Sep 17, 2002
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Sad story...and will hopefully make more people aware that handling your food/toiletries properly when out in the woods is VERY important for your safety.
dainthomas
Lifer
- Dec 7, 2004
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rofl @ a handgun slowing down a grizzly.
Just get some good bear spray, don't keep food at your site, and hope you're luckier than those people.
This is why you should keep a shotgun loaded with slugs in your tent, when you are camping in bear country. Also, anything less than a .44 mag is just going to piss off a Grizzly.
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- Jan 7, 2002
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Officials have said the sow will be killed. State and federal wildlife officials will determine the fate of the cubs. Sheppard said they are unlikely to be returned to the wild because they could have been learning predatory behavior from their mother.
it will be killed. It's pretty standard to kill any bear that has attacked/killed humans as they will continue the behavior etc.
dainthomas
Lifer
- Dec 7, 2004
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You'll have to sleep on top of it to do any good if you wake up to a bear chewing your arm off.
HamburgerBoy
Lifer
- Apr 12, 2004
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LOL, it's a wild animal, not a serial killer. I support the death penalty but not against wild animals in their habitat. And how did they identify it as the culprit? $10 says due process will not be observed.
lxskllr
No Lifer
- Nov 30, 2004
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LOL, it's a wild animal, not a serial killer. I support the death penalty but not against wild animals in their habitat. And how did they identify it as the culprit? $10 says due process will not be observed.
For real. The bear was doing what bears do. That's like fining a fish for shitting in the water, and violating EPA regulations :^/
Kadarin
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- Nov 23, 2001
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AMCRambler
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- Jan 23, 2001
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Unrelated but that picture was taken on the road I used to live on, lol. I used to ride past that fence all the time on my bike when I was a kid. I never knew they were filming Super Troopers right down the road from until after the movie came out.
BoomerD
No Lifer
- Feb 26, 2006
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From what I can tell, the guy who was killed and eaten was actually a visitor from the Czech Republic...and here's the rest of the story...
An American and his Czechoslovakian friend were camping in the forest. In the middle of the night, they were woken by a giant grizzly bear. Before they could make a move, the bear jumped up and ate the European.
The American turned and ran. He pulled out his cell phone and called the local forest ranger. In no time, an experienced ranger was upon the scene, and they headed back to find the man eating bear.
They neared the site where the man was eaten. They came upon two bears, a male and a female. The ranger asked the American which bear ate his friend. The American replied that it was the male, the bigger of the two.
With that, the fearless ranger pulled out his hunting knife, and with one fell swoop, slashed open the belly of the female, and out popped the man's friend.
The moral of this story..."Never trust someone when they say the Czech is in the male."
An American and his Czechoslovakian friend were camping in the forest. In the middle of the night, they were woken by a giant grizzly bear. Before they could make a move, the bear jumped up and ate the European.
The American turned and ran. He pulled out his cell phone and called the local forest ranger. In no time, an experienced ranger was upon the scene, and they headed back to find the man eating bear.
They neared the site where the man was eaten. They came upon two bears, a male and a female. The ranger asked the American which bear ate his friend. The American replied that it was the male, the bigger of the two.
With that, the fearless ranger pulled out his hunting knife, and with one fell swoop, slashed open the belly of the female, and out popped the man's friend.
The moral of this story..."Never trust someone when they say the Czech is in the male."
Why the hell are they bothering the bear and her cubs? She did what Grizzly Bears do. The people were in HER territory. What are they going to do with this bear now? If you are dumb enough to tent camp in places where there are dangerous bears I really do not feel sorry for you if you get eaten.
BoomerD
No Lifer
- Feb 26, 2006
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I certainly can't disagree with this. Bears, especially grizzly bears are very omnivorous...and opportunistic feeders. IF you're stupid enough to have foods or any of the many things that attract bears in/near your campsite, you're asking for trouble. Most black bears might raid your camp and steal your food. Grizzly bears, while they'll certainly do that, might also consider YOU to be food.
Living/working in western Wyoming, I spent a lot of time in the back country, whether it was hunting, fishing, or even for work. Lots of the gas wellsites are way back in the hills.
Fortunately, I only ran into a couple of grizzly bears...and saw them first, at a distance that allowed me to say clear of them. Black bears on the other hand, I've seen as close as 5-6 feet as they meandered through a jobsite, or along the bank of the stream where I was fishing. I certainly would NOT get between a black bear sow and her cubs, but other than that, I never felt like I was in any real danger when they were near.
BoT
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