RAHAHA, AMD Jokes at Intel's Expense

[BlvdKing]

This whole heatspreader issue is lame. AMD did have a heatspreader on the K6, K6-2, and K6 III, as well as the flip chip. Back in the day people were complaining that the heatspreader was holding back overclocking, and there was numbers to prove it. AMD made the TBird without a heatspreader and everybody bitches about crushed cores. As soon as the hammer comes out people will be prying the HS off to get to the bridges or to get better overclocks. It's no win for AMD with this heatspreader.

 

[NFS4]

<< NFS4, you might want to update this thread. Go to amdzone and check out the latest news, it looks like AMD is in fact not poking fun at Intel, it seems the notes are different.

I just watched the notes on the Solo board, as far as I can encrypt them. It is not exactly the Intel-jingle but something like an answer to that.

If you start the Intel-Jingle from beginning and continue with increasing intervals you get the following order: third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and so on.

The Intel-jingle consists of the third and fourth, or in notes: D - F sharp - D - G The jingle from the Soloboard consists of the fourth and fifth, D - G - D - A

The musical message behind the notes could be interpreted as follows: I am one step forward! >>



If AMD's tune means that "I am one step forward," then what does Intel's tune mean?

 

[AGodspeed]

<<

<< NFS4, you might want to update this thread. Go to amdzone and check out the latest news, it looks like AMD is in fact not poking fun at Intel, it seems the notes are different.

I just watched the notes on the Solo board, as far as I can encrypt them. It is not exactly the Intel-jingle but something like an answer to that.

If you start the Intel-Jingle from beginning and continue with increasing intervals you get the following order: third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and so on.

The Intel-jingle consists of the third and fourth, or in notes: D - F sharp - D - G The jingle from the Soloboard consists of the fourth and fifth, D - G - D - A

The musical message behind the notes could be interpreted as follows: I am one step forward! >>



If AMD's tune means that "I am one step forward," then what does Intel's tune mean? >>

I have no idea. I know next to nothing about reading music. But my brother knows next to everything about reading music, so I'll ask him.

 

[skace]

<< CAn either of you fools show me exactly where i said Intel was a perfect company?
Didn't think so. Think before you speak. Typical. >>

Actually, I did think before I posted, which is why I posted. You didn't say Intel was a perfect company. But whether you believe it or not you made a comparison. Anytime you say something is lame, bad, good, or whatever you make an inferred comparison. Let me explain it this way: If I took a sip of a pepsi and said "ack this tastes terrible" then that automatically means there is something better than that pepsi. You couldn't think every drink sucked because that would lower the standard and then every drink would just be average. So when you say AMD's tactics are lame, one can only guess that you prefer Intel's tactics. If that was not the case, why would you single AMD out, or why didn't you bring up a role model comparison for AMD of a company with better tactics that does not directly relate to AMD.

Ah well, you can continue assuming others are fools for trying to figure out your odd remarks. And I look forward to your retaliation to GodSpeed, since you obviously didn't research your facts before confronting him. By the way, you keep using the term steal incorrectly....

 

[454Casull]

LikeLinus01, do us all a favour and practice diaphragm-imploding yoga.

 

[gregor7777]

LikeLinus01, do us all a favour and practice diaphragm-imploding yoga.




A fine summary of the discussion at hand.

 

[Priit]

<< A. Ok first they are stealing package design and the use of the Heat Spreader. >>



AFAIK heat spreader was first used on x86 by AMD with their K6 processors...



<< B. 3dNow? Lame attemp to copy SSE Instructions (Which now AMD uses instead of it's own) >>



3DNow was in market before SSE (K6-2 was out before P3). Anyway, SIMD instructions were first used by Cray supercomputers in early 70's, maybe they "stole" it from Intel, too?



<< d. "You'll also notice that the board features an ATX12V power connector which was originally introduced with the first Pentium 4 platforms" >>



So? Is 12V power connector really sth that Intel invented?

 

[christoph83]

AFAIK heat spreader was first used on x86 by AMD with their K6 processors...

Actually a member name x86 mentioned that a heat spreader was used on intels old 486 processors and some even older processors. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[Priit]

<< Actually a member name x86 mentioned that a heat spreader was used on intels old 486 processors and some even older processors. Can anyone confirm this? >>



Just look at the 486 processor... OK, metallic heat spreader was first used by AMD... you can consider processor chip himself "heat spreader", too...

 

[Oalex]

LikeLinus01, you are realy dumb!!!

and I'm not going to back that up with facts (althogh it would be easy), just as you don't back up your stupid statments with anything substaintial.

Take a break and check out the current value of your intel (aka perfect angel) stocks, trust me, this "melody"-joke won't affect them so don't worry.

 

[SWScorch]

<< You all have severe problems if you found that funny. The most I gathered up with an "interesting...". >>

 

[LikeLinus]

"LikeLinus01, your are realy dumb!!!"

Pretty funny.

 

[Gstanfor]

Actually the K5 had a heat spreading cap on it.

There isn't much new about heat speaders and cpu's. I recall early versions of the Motorola 68010 had one, and they were standard on the mainstream versions of Motorola's 680x0 cpu's. Various other firms used them too, but I can't be bothered digging up the details.

Greg

 

[Texmaster]

<< It's funny in one way, but it's rather lame in the other. Why does AMD always find the need to slam Intel? Can they not fight their battles like real men and play fair? Have you seen Intel slander or talk trash about AMD? Nope! But we've all seen AMD do commercials, then the whole PR rating to save face from making themselves look stupid, now on to this? Not very good business tactics. It doesn't make yourself look better to slam other products. All in poor taste. They really need to focuse on THEMSELVES and the fact that they are losing money left and right.

For a company that steals alot of Intels ideas, why do this? >>



I don't know about the "stealing" part but I do think its a pretty sad display if this was indeed about Intel.

Hepefully its a answer to Intel's jingle rather than a repeat.

 

[wfbberzerker]

wow, all you have to do is see both AMD and Intel in the threads title to know theres gonna be a flame war inside...



i think its pretty funny (the article that is).

 

[MistaTastyCakes]

<< << It's funny in one way, but it's rather lame in the other. Why does AMD always find the need to slam Intel? Can they not fight their battles like real men and play fair? Have you seen Intel slander or talk trash about AMD? Nope! But we've all seen AMD do commercials, then the whole PR rating to save face from making themselves look stupid, now on to this? Not very good business tactics. It doesn't make yourself look better to slam other products. All in poor taste. They really need to focuse on THEMSELVES and the fact that they are losing money left and right.
For a company that steals alot of Intels ideas, why do this? >>

I don't know about the "stealing" part but I do think its a pretty sad display if this was indeed about Intel.
Hepefully its a answer to Intel's jingle rather than a repeat. >>



...or maybe it's light hearted humor. Naaah...

Oh and speaking of heat spreaders, my old Cyrix PR200+ @ 150mhz has a heat spreader, just thought of that now. But it's not like the K6 ones. It's.. like, attached to the ceramic. Just thought I'd share.

 

[CraigRT]

<< You'd have to be freaking blind not to notice that AMD uses ALOT of Intels ideas and doesnt have an original bone in it's corporate body.

AGodspeed have you taken the time to even READ the AT article Here's a quote

"The first thing we noticed about the CPUs is that they look a lot like the Socket-478 Pentium 4 processors. In fact, AMD did borrow quite a bit from Intel in designing the packaging of the CPUs as both the ClawHammer and SledgeHammer parts feature integrated heat spreaders (IHS), a technology which Intel has been using for almost two years now."

A. Ok first they are stealing package design and the use of the Heat Spreader.
B. 3dNow? Lame attemp to copy SSE Instructions (Which now AMD uses instead of it's own)
c. AMD were following in Intels foosteps by calling their chip the "Athlon 4".
d. "You'll also notice that the board features an ATX12V power connector which was originally introduced with the first Pentium 4 platforms"
e. Thermal Protection? (Yet AMD is stupid enough to make it dependant on the motherboard producers...bad idea).

This is just off the top of my head. AMD does steal alot of product ideas from Intel, this is known. If you can't figure that out for yourself....you're the one who doesnt deseve to post. You really need to clean up that holier than thou act. You always tell people not to post and act like you're all that. It's getting pretty lame.

All i said was it was LAME...which it is. If you've ever owned a business you'd understand. Disgracing and making fun of the competition only makes you seem childish and lame. They intentionally did this and knew people would see it. I just think its lame, thats all. I'm allowed to have that opinion. So eat it! >>



dork! who gives a sh@$... just look and laugh... it's not an Intel vs AMD debate...

 

[Adul]

that as pretty dam funny.

AHAHAHHAHAHAH