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w3stfa11

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RATM is awesome, I really hope they get back together permanently.

BTW, Tom Morello recently released his debut album as The Nightwatchman. I like it. It's "folksy".
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
I'm sorry, but I cannot help but call you out and I cannot let this statement go unnnoticed. I'm sorry but good politically charged lyrics with a great energy beats ******, "Christian" rock or whatever, Creed had one hit. RATM, had several hit albums. There is no comparison even if they are on seperate musical planes.
American Idol and Britney Spears are popular too. That doesn't make them good. RATM is, along with Tool and SoaD, the poster band for the anti-social, parent-hating, black lipstick-wearing teenage masses.

I'm pretty sure you meant to put emo instead of RATM, Tool and SoaD.
 

touchmyichi

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I was there and it was a weak performance that was exaggerated by both the hype and grandeurs of amplification and lighting (as well as crazy fans who will mosh to anything with testosterone packed guitar chords). Zach de La Rocha sounded both dated and bland, his entire rap/rock style didn't have the precise flow of many of the other MC's throughout the past days at coachella. Also, his political point comparing Nazis to the Bush Administration and how we should "try them and shoot them" was similarly idiotic. I can't believe people were actually cheering to such bs like that, being loud and bold (stupid might be a better term) doesn't mean you made a valid point. Not only that, but the fans ruined the entire spirit of coachella. They started up 2 riots at the campsite we were at, toilet papered a lot of the artwork at the show, and often refused to take part in anything else at the show rather than rage. A significant amount of the ones I met had never even heard of the other bands there and didn't even bothering heading into the show until rage started, destroying the entire point of a music festival. And I think that I could certainly generalize to say that the 85 arrested were all rage fans :/.

The real reunion was the Jesus and Mary Chain who played a surprisingly solid set and had a fun cameo with Scarlet Johanson. Sonic Youth, Bjork, Decemberists, and New Pornographers were also similarly impressive.
 

w3stfa11

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Originally posted by: touchmyichi
I was there and it was a weak performance that was exaggerated by both the hype and grandeurs of amplification and lighting (as well as crazy fans who will mosh to anything with testosterone packed guitar chords). Zach de La Rocha sounded both dated and bland, his entire rap/rock style didn't have the precise flow of many of the other MC's throughout the past days at coachella. Also, his political point comparing Nazis to the Bush Administration and how we should "try them and shoot them" was similarly idiotic. I can't believe people were actually cheering to such bs like that, being loud and bold (stupid might be a better term) doesn't mean you made a valid point. Not only that, but the fans ruined the entire spirit of coachella. They started up 2 riots at the campsite we were at, toilet papered a lot of the artwork at the show, and often refused to take part in anything else at the show rather than rage. A significant amount of the ones I met had never even heard of the other bands there and didn't even bothering heading into the show until rage started, destroying the entire point of a music festival. And I think that I could certainly generalize to say that the 85 arrested were all rage fans :/.

I've only heard good things about the Rage performance and the entire Coachella performance.

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Coachella/2007/2007/04/30/4143352-ca.html
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/coachella_day_iii.html

To each their own.
 

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Originally posted by: touchmyichi
I was there and it was a weak performance yada yada

I thought Rage was excellent. As far as George Bush, he is the reason they got back together. But of course, people disagree about politics.

All 3 days of the festival were excellent, IMHO.
 

OpenThirdEye

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Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
I'm sorry, but I cannot help but call you out and I cannot let this statement go unnnoticed. I'm sorry but good politically charged lyrics with a great energy beats ******, "Christian" rock or whatever, Creed had one hit. RATM, had several hit albums. There is no comparison even if they are on seperate musical planes.
American Idol and Britney Spears are popular too. That doesn't make them good. RATM is, along with Tool and SoaD, the poster band for the anti-social, parent-hating, black lipstick-wearing teenage masses.

I'm pretty sure you meant to put emo instead of RATM, Tool and SoaD.

Seconded!

As for Coachella...great 3 days and Rage did a good job!
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Audioslave is better than Rage


:thumbsup:


Of course, that is not saying much. Creed is better than rage.

I'm sorry, but I cannot help but call you out and I cannot let this statement go unnnoticed. I'm sorry but good politically charged lyrics with a great energy beats ******, "Christian" rock or whatever, Creed had one hit. RATM, had several hit albums. There is no comparison even if they are on seperate musical planes.
Creed had ONE hit? Sorry, but Human Clay sold more than all of Rage's albums together.
And I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Creed had more hits than Rage ever thought about.
Creed became the successful band that it became popular to hate...they were sort of the Nickleback of the late 90's.
But a damn good band, regardless. Whether you like their music or not, they can play rings around the members of RATM.
 

ballmode

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At least you all can remember great 90's rock bands.

I doubt the 2000's "rock" bands will be remembered... I can't even remember what would be considered now
 

pulse8

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May 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Audioslave is better than Rage


:thumbsup:


Of course, that is not saying much. Creed is better than rage.

I'm sorry, but I cannot help but call you out and I cannot let this statement go unnnoticed. I'm sorry but good politically charged lyrics with a great energy beats ******, "Christian" rock or whatever, Creed had one hit. RATM, had several hit albums. There is no comparison even if they are on seperate musical planes.
Creed had ONE hit? Sorry, but Human Clay sold more than all of Rage's albums together.
And I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Creed had more hits than Rage ever thought about.
Creed became the successful band that it became popular to hate...they were sort of the Nickleback of the late 90's.
But a damn good band, regardless. Whether you like their music or not, they can play rings around the members of RATM.

You are crazy. Rage inspired so many bands after them that it's not even funny. If you can find me a single band that lists creed as an influence I'll be extremely surprised.

Rage also isn't just about their political stance. They have a sound that no one has ever had and no one can replicate. You can't deny their affect on music.
 

KarmaPolice

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Originally posted by: ballmode
At least you all can remember great 90's rock bands.

I doubt the 2000's "rock" bands will be remembered... I can't even remember what would be considered now

hrmmm

Radiohead
 

Pacfanweb

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Jan 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Audioslave is better than Rage


:thumbsup:


Of course, that is not saying much. Creed is better than rage.

I'm sorry, but I cannot help but call you out and I cannot let this statement go unnnoticed. I'm sorry but good politically charged lyrics with a great energy beats ******, "Christian" rock or whatever, Creed had one hit. RATM, had several hit albums. There is no comparison even if they are on seperate musical planes.
Creed had ONE hit? Sorry, but Human Clay sold more than all of Rage's albums together.
And I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Creed had more hits than Rage ever thought about.
Creed became the successful band that it became popular to hate...they were sort of the Nickleback of the late 90's.
But a damn good band, regardless. Whether you like their music or not, they can play rings around the members of RATM.

You are crazy. Rage inspired so many bands after them that it's not even funny. If you can find me a single band that lists creed as an influence I'll be extremely surprised.

Rage also isn't just about their political stance. They have a sound that no one has ever had and no one can replicate. You can't deny their affect on music.

Really? Who, that's worth a ******, have they inspired? And if they did inspire anyone, it was certainly not their technical prowess with their instruments that did it. What have they sold, 9 million albums total? That's certainly nothing to sneeze at, but far from "legendary".
And yeah, they helped the whole "rap-rock" thing get going. Yay for them. Or not.
 

pulse8

Lifer
May 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Audioslave is better than Rage


:thumbsup:


Of course, that is not saying much. Creed is better than rage.

I'm sorry, but I cannot help but call you out and I cannot let this statement go unnnoticed. I'm sorry but good politically charged lyrics with a great energy beats ******, "Christian" rock or whatever, Creed had one hit. RATM, had several hit albums. There is no comparison even if they are on seperate musical planes.
Creed had ONE hit? Sorry, but Human Clay sold more than all of Rage's albums together.
And I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Creed had more hits than Rage ever thought about.
Creed became the successful band that it became popular to hate...they were sort of the Nickleback of the late 90's.
But a damn good band, regardless. Whether you like their music or not, they can play rings around the members of RATM.

You are crazy. Rage inspired so many bands after them that it's not even funny. If you can find me a single band that lists creed as an influence I'll be extremely surprised.

Rage also isn't just about their political stance. They have a sound that no one has ever had and no one can replicate. You can't deny their affect on music.

Really? Who, that's worth a ******, have they inspired? And if they did inspire anyone, it was certainly not their technical prowess with their instruments that did it. What have they sold, 9 million albums total? That's certainly nothing to sneeze at, but far from "legendary".
And yeah, they helped the whole "rap-rock" thing get going. Yay for them. Or not.

You're obviously just trolling. No one can be that stupid.

See ya.
 

Chaotic42

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Jun 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: eos
Generalizations are fun! :thumbsdown:

Keep padding that post count with drivel.
Nothing good could have come from my post. I should have kept it to myself.