Rage against The Machine:""This current administration is no exception. They should be tried and hung and shot,"

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Rage Against the Machine rages at Coachella music festival
By SOLVEJ SCHOU Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 04/30/2007 04:41:19 AM PDT

INDIO, Calif- Thousands of sunburnt fans roared in unison and pumped their fists in the desert air Sunday night as reunited political rockers Rage Against the Machine took the stage at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival.

Grinning, lead singer-rapper Zack de la Rocha pumped his fist along with them.

Seven years after the quartet broke up following de la Rocha's departure, the band returned with a vengeance to close out the three-day festival east of Palm Springs.

Stomping, shouting into his microphone, grabbing his curly hair and inciting the audience to "keep fighting," de la Rocha powered through songs ranging from the bass heavy "Bulls on Parade" to the anthem "Killing in the Name."

He also railed against the war in Iraq and likened Bush administration officials to Nazi war criminals.

"This current administration is no exception. They should be tried and hung and shot," he said.

Drummer Brad Wilk, bassist Tim Commerford and guitarist Tom Morello, who wore a hat with the word "UNITY" on it, completed the lineup.

"They changed my life. They made me a liberal," said sweat-drenched history teacher Rafael Ramon, 25, who had waited in a crowd packed shoulder-to-shoulder in front of the stage all day.

"All of America needed Rage to come back. They've been missing," he said.

The band last played the festival during its first year in 1999.

An estimated 180,000 people attended the festival over
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the three days but police said there were few problems.

Fewer than 100 people were arrested, most of them for investigation of drug or alcohol use, and there were a couple reports of people being treated for drug overdoses, Indio police spokesman Ben Guitron said early Monday morning.

Triple-digit temperatures on Saturday also led to some cases of heat exhaustion, he said.

"Overall, the event was beautiful...no significant incidents or challenges," he said.

Local police were aided by those from surrounding departments and by private security, he said.

Anticipation for Rage started building Saturday, when Morello performed a solo act of protest songs as the Nightwatchman.

Morello wore a harmonica and swapped his standard electric guitar for an acoustic with the words "whatever it takes" scrawled on it.

He dedicated tunes to "rebel girls and women," unions, farm workers and the audience.

Other Sunday highlights were country music veteran Willie Nelson, performing a day before his 74th birthday, and reunited rock band Crowded House.

On Saturday, Los Angeles hip-hop fusion ensemble Ozomatli provided one of the most energetic of the festival, with band members calling out to the audience in both English and Spanish.

The Red Hot Chili Peppers headlined Saturday.

Singer Anthony Kiedis, sporting a mustache and wearing a black vest and fingerless gloves, raced around the stage, zipping past bare-chested bassist Flea and guitarist John Frusciante.

"Out of all the bands playing, I wanted to see them the most!" said Nicole McMachen, 21, who danced ferociously to the music with her fiance, Dustin Palmer, 21.

McMachen said she planned to get lyrics for the song "Snow (Hey Oh)" tattooed onto her arm.

Flea, known for his giddy stage outbursts, expressed the opposite of rage to the audience.

"Everything is beautiful," he yelled out. "Love and peace is in all our hearts."


Every person who listens to rage seems to think they are an expert on world politics etc, this should be interesting to see what this spawns.
 

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Originally posted by: michaels
Every person who listens to rage seems to think they are an expert on world politics etc, this should be interesting to see what this spawns.
It's hard not to be considered an expert when your benchmark is the Bush administration.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: michaels
Every person who listens to rage seems to think they are an expert on world politics etc, this should be interesting to see what this spawns.
It's hard not to be considered an expert when your benchmark is the Bush administration.

Everyone who watches Fox News seems to think they are an expert on world politics etc.

 

Lemon law

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Look at it this way----180,000 people are somewhat radicalized---meanwhile perhaps a few dozen people in the GWB administration have made a total mess of things and are getting a pile
of people killed---and maybe a 100 people in the crowd get busted for drugs---no one killed.

Kinda strikes a contrasting balance somehow.
 

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Originally posted by: michaels
Every person who listens to rage seems to think they are an expert on world politics etc, this should be interesting to see what this spawns.

it will spawn nothing. this is coming from a guy who was ostricised for "selling out" and now he has come back beating his chest and jumping on the bandwagon. people will still realize that he is just another douche.

honestly, how many people do you think will vote that attended that concert anyway?
 

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Rage Against the Machine is irrelevant, as are the opinions of Zack de la Rocha. While his bandmates all went on to other projects, most noteably Audioslave, he kind of faded into obscurity...which probably explains why he suddenly felt the urge to reunite with his former bandmates.

Also given the demographic that attends Coachella, this wasn't exactly a Bush friendly crowd to begin with.

Unlike the 60s, there really hasn't been a musical tie to the anti-establishment or anti-Bush movement, which actually surprises me...a powerful or iconic anti-Bush or anti-Iraq song around which people have rallied...and I doubt Rage Against the Machine will be the band to provide it...Zack de la Rocha is no John Lennon.

Rage has always been a "political" band, but their message is a bit cliche and sporadic.
 

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Rage Against the Machine is irrelevant, as are the opinions of Zack de la Rocha. While his bandmates all went on to other projects, most noteably Audioslave, he kind of faded into obscurity...which probably explains why he suddenly felt the urge to reunite with his former bandmates.

Also given the demographic that attends Coachella, this wasn't exactly a Bush friendly crowd to begin with.

Unlike the 60s, there really hasn't been a musical tie to the anti-establishment or anti-Bush movement, which actually surprises me...a powerful or iconic anti-Bush or anti-Iraq song around which people have rallied...and I doubt Rage Against the Machine will be the band to provide it...Zack de la Rocha is no John Lennon.

Rage has always been a "political" band, but their message is a bit cliche and sporadic.

de la Rocha left the band to actually work for the causes he believed in, unlike the vast majority of Americans. You at least have to respect his authenticity.

Meanwhile, they make some amazing music, and I hope they get back together for real so I can see them live before I die.
 

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I can pinpoint the moment when I became a conservative, thanks to RATM. I was 16 or 17 I think. I was reading a press release by de la Rocha about how some black guy on death row (I can't remember his name atm) was going to be executed unjustly and that it was racism and such.

While I was watching the news with my Dad, the story about the guy was mentioned. I told my dad "it's so wrong that this innocent guy is being executed, the justice system is totally messed up" or something to that effect. My dad replied with something along the lines of "that guy is a brutal murderer. While robbing a convenience store, he shot the clerk at point blank with a shotgun. Then he killed one witness, and amputated the leg of another bystander with another point blank shot. There were witnesses, video surveilance, and DNA evidence against him". I, somewhat stunned, just replied with "Huh...well that's interesting".

It was that moment I realized that the rantings and ravings of the left wing nuts were just that, lies and political contrivances.
 

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
I can pinpoint the moment when I became a conservative, thanks to RATM. I was 16 or 17 I think. I was reading a press release by de la Rocha about how some black guy on death row (I can't remember his name atm) was going to be executed unjustly and that it was racism and such.

While I was watching the news with my Dad, the story about the guy was mentioned. I told my dad "it's so wrong that this innocent guy is being executed, the justice system is totally messed up" or something to that effect. My dad replied with something along the lines of "that guy is a brutal murderer. While robbing a convenience store, he shot the clerk at point blank with a shotgun. Then he killed one witness, and amputated the leg of another bystander with another point blank shot. There were witnesses, video surveilance, and DNA evidence against him". I, somewhat stunned, just replied with "Huh...well that's interesting".

It was that moment I realized that the rantings and ravings of the left wing nuts were just that, lies and political contrivances.

Was that also the Day you came to believe in sweeping Generalized Stereotypes? Or is that just part of Belonging to the Flock.

Looks like you missed the Point.
 

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Rage Against the Machine is irrelevant, as are the opinions of Zack de la Rocha. While his bandmates all went on to other projects, most noteably Audioslave, he kind of faded into obscurity...which probably explains why he suddenly felt the urge to reunite with his former bandmates.

How are your opinions any more relevant than de la Rocha's? Just curious.
 

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I wonder if we will see any backlash against these guys. Not that they have a whole lot to lose anyway?
 

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I wonder if we will see any backlash against these guys. Not that they have a whole lot to lose anyway?

You mean the Type of Backlash that Caused the Dixie Chicks to win grammy's and sell a butltoad of albums? Or the Type of Backlash that caused Toby Keith to say the War and the President are a disaster and to backtrack from his jingoistic ways?
 

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ROFL

Rage Against The Machine ... brings back such great memories. These guys are has-beens looking for something to spark a few album sales. And god knows they need 'em.
 

Starbuck1975

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How are your opinions any more relevant than de la Rocha's? Just curious.
My opinions are no more relevant than Rocha's, which is my point entirely...just because someone is in a band that sings political songs does not necessarily make their opinion any more valid or significant.
 

Jaskalas

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They?re merely echoing the vitriol half the country is serving up as a political party.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
How are your opinions any more relevant than de la Rocha's? Just curious.
My opinions are no more relevant than Rocha's, which is my point entirely...just because someone is in a band that sings political songs does not necessarily make their opinion any more valid or significant.
I agree. Although he clearly has a much larger audience for his opinion.
 

XMan

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Tried, hung, and shot . . . so much for due process and the presumption of innocence, I guess.
 

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Originally posted by: XMan
Tried, hung, and shot . . . so much for due process and the presumption of innocence, I guess.

Well, if they are tried and found not guilty then the next two steps don't happen ;)

 

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
They?re merely echoing the vitriol half the country is serving up as a political party.

And nobody has caused such vitriol to be used? Bushco are just innocent.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
They?re merely echoing the vitriol half the country is serving up as a political party.

And nobody has caused such vitriol to be used? Bushco are just innocent.

Eye for an eye until the world's gone blind! Vengeance is the ultimate goal eh?
 

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
I can pinpoint the moment when I became a conservative, thanks to RATM. I was 16 or 17 I think. I was reading a press release by de la Rocha about how some black guy on death row (I can't remember his name atm) was going to be executed unjustly and that it was racism and such.

While I was watching the news with my Dad, the story about the guy was mentioned. I told my dad "it's so wrong that this innocent guy is being executed, the justice system is totally messed up" or something to that effect. My dad replied with something along the lines of "that guy is a brutal murderer. While robbing a convenience store, he shot the clerk at point blank with a shotgun. Then he killed one witness, and amputated the leg of another bystander with another point blank shot. There were witnesses, video surveilance, and DNA evidence against him". I, somewhat stunned, just replied with "Huh...well that's interesting".

It was that moment I realized that the rantings and ravings of the left wing nuts were just that, lies and political contrivances.

So this was, by your own account, the defining moment in your development of a political identity... And yet you can't even remember the guy's name and never bothered to learn anything about the actual case; you just based your opinions, first, on the views of some rock band and then, later, on your father's views? Well I'll agree with one thing you said in your post: "Huh...well that's interesting."

It was Mumia Abu-Jamal (nee Wesley Cook), by the way. And from I've been able to read, I think he was probably guilty, too... and I still like a number of RATM songs. But neither of those facts define my political views.
 

Starbuck1975

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I agree. Although he clearly has a much larger audience for his opinion.
What??? You mean my postings are not reaching millions of people across the globe. Sure de la Rocha's message reaches a broader audience, and some of his causes I actually agree with...but he tends to take things the extra step that tends to come with celebrity egos.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
I agree. Although he clearly has a much larger audience for his opinion.
What??? You mean my postings are not reaching millions of people across the globe. Sure de la Rocha's message reaches a broader audience, and some of his causes I actually agree with...but he tends to take things the extra step that tends to come with celebrity egos.
I merely pointed it out, because I'm quite sure that's what's truly causing your outrage.