all i want is a card that more than doubles the last generation's performance, and is cheaper!!!! is that too much to ask?
X1900XTX
LMFAO, that name is so horrible I thought at first the OP was making something up to poke fun!
LMFAO, that name is so horrible I thought at first the OP was making something up to poke fun!
I think that the X1900 scores 11,600 3dmarks(05) with a 2.8ghz FX-55.
(i think, it was on an x-tream systems thread)
(i think, it was on an x-tream systems thread)
lol
well face it people, if you want the best, you spend ludicrous amounts of cash, and if you want bang for buck, you're going to have some disappointments!
I really wish Nvidia would fix this problem, because I play Far Cry several times a year, and I would like Nvidia cards. This isn't the only seller, but it seems to be more of a problem than just Far Cry. It all depends on the G71 IQ compared to R580.
Well, *I should hope* that R580 is faster than its current competition or what is the point of releasing it at all?
Just the fact that it (allegedly) cannot consistently beat G70 should be a huge warning signal to people as to what G71 will do to it.
Personally I think there must be a nasty disease called "XBOXitis" that engineers contract after working on microsoft consoles. It appears to render then incapable of producing competent desktop GPUs for a significant period of time afterwards.
Here's how you can enjoy Far Cry, no matter what nV does.
1. Keep moving in the jungle.
2. If you stop, try to look around for enemies, or at pretty scenery. Avoid studying gun barrel, as it would be pretty boring even if the shadows were correct.
:laugh:
Umm i dont know if anyone has noticed this but in the article the author say he "Believes" that the 7800 512 can win in a few games.... meaning he has no proof.
I am certainly not a great supporter of the inquirer, however, it seems to me that most of the leaks/hints we have been getting up until now have been in close agreement with each other.
And then there is the small matter of bias. If the news were reveresed and nVidia looked in trouble rather than ATi, every fanATic with 'net access would be crowing it as loudly as possible, as often as possible.
Freud, if he were alive today would *love* to get some fanATics on his examining couch to see what made their brains tick...
And then there is the small matter of bias. If the news were reveresed and nVidia looked in trouble rather than ATi, every fanATic with 'net access would be crowing it as loudly as possible, as often as possible.
Freud, if he were alive today would *love* to get some fanATics on his examining couch to see what made their brains tick...
never.. that website rocks ! it offers totally crazy new services
your such a nvidia fanboy and an evil fanboy to that. Read so many of your ATI bashing post and they aren't even normal. You need metal check up sir :frown:
Companies aren't stupid?
Why should they give you double performance for less money when they can give you 25% more performance for more money, every six months, and people keep buying?
Put another way:
Companies exist to make profit, not make you happy.
What about it?
First off its a 3dmark score, big whoop!, second G71 is rumored to hit 13000 3dmarks (stock). Take that for what ever it is worth. (Yes, I know there are rumors saying an OC'd R580 hit 13000 3dmarks too, but G71 can overclocked also...)
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Quoting unsubstantiated 3DMock scores isn't going to help any case. First, as said, it's unsubstantiated. That means they're just numbers someone pulled out of their arse until I see some proof. Second, 3DMark while a good program to use for testing for video card stability is not exactly a good indicator of game performance. I've seen pretty big differences between nVidia systems and ATI systems in 3DMark scores that in the end has the two cards performing within 5% difference in most games. And not always one card taking the lead over the other but rather mixed results as far as which is better.
Before declaring any card superior to the other, I'd have to say wait for real benchmarks in real games.
I never said it was good evidence, I'm just putting it out there.
The card name is erased so someone really can't tell what card it really is. And I also agree that a 3dmark score doesn't prove anything.
The card name is erased so someone really can't tell what card it really is. And I also agree that a 3dmark score doesn't prove anything.
Well they do have to make customers happy. Otherwise they wont be able to sell anything if the customer thinks their products are crap and wont buy them anymore.
It seems to me that one should buy a video card based on the type of games you play. Certain classes of games seem to do well on certain video cards. no it is not straight across the board but if you are playing F.E.A.R. then buy the card that plays it the best for your budget at the time-so to speak. DOOM, QUAKE the same thing. HALF LIFE likewise. What is the life of a video card among the early adopters? If I am willing to spend $600 on a highend card that I know will be bested in 6 months then I will make that investment and go on and 6 months later get the new card that plays that game better if I want all the eye candy turned up high or if there is a new game I like that runs much better on a diff cardbrand THEN buy the diff brand.
The other thing is what CPU we get the video card benchmarks on. How many of you have fX-60's, FX-57's etc. These CPU's are used to bench so there is no bottleneck for the video card but what are most of you running? Do you have the computing power(CPU) to take advantage of the GPU?
It seems that when we do everything else we look at the features in a product and how they will most beneficially affect us, but when it comes to video cards it has to be total dominance. The other thing is that ATI's AVIVO is an added feature better clarity in video output and ATI's current x1000x GPU is programable. They have already released an encoding program that will encode video 10x faster than your computer CPU. How much is that worth? If you encode video is it worth more than running a game at 120 frames rather than 124frames? Or even 150 frames. At what point are frames per second irrelevant
All that being said, the next big thing is the upcoming physics processor from AGEIA(PHSYX) and how it will interact with the different video cards. This is where we may see the flexibility (programibility)of the X1000x series really begin to shine.
I own both 7800gt for my home theatre (MCE)setup and X1800xt(just sold it) will get X1900XTX for my game machine this week. I prefer ATI but I am looking at the whole package of the offering in a video card. Had ATI had the x1800 All In Wonder when I was looking I would have purchased it. But at the time the 7800 had the level of power I needed in a HTPC. It is all about timing.
Thanks for reading my rant,
hcforde
The other thing is what CPU we get the video card benchmarks on. How many of you have fX-60's, FX-57's etc. These CPU's are used to bench so there is no bottleneck for the video card but what are most of you running? Do you have the computing power(CPU) to take advantage of the GPU?
It seems that when we do everything else we look at the features in a product and how they will most beneficially affect us, but when it comes to video cards it has to be total dominance. The other thing is that ATI's AVIVO is an added feature better clarity in video output and ATI's current x1000x GPU is programable. They have already released an encoding program that will encode video 10x faster than your computer CPU. How much is that worth? If you encode video is it worth more than running a game at 120 frames rather than 124frames? Or even 150 frames. At what point are frames per second irrelevant
All that being said, the next big thing is the upcoming physics processor from AGEIA(PHSYX) and how it will interact with the different video cards. This is where we may see the flexibility (programibility)of the X1000x series really begin to shine.
I own both 7800gt for my home theatre (MCE)setup and X1800xt(just sold it) will get X1900XTX for my game machine this week. I prefer ATI but I am looking at the whole package of the offering in a video card. Had ATI had the x1800 All In Wonder when I was looking I would have purchased it. But at the time the 7800 had the level of power I needed in a HTPC. It is all about timing.
Thanks for reading my rant,
hcforde
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