Radeon win2k performance.

[EdipisReks]

i am planning a computer that i will be building at the end of the summer, and i have decided on the Radeon 64 MB VIVO (unless the geforce3 drops in price a lot or the upcoming radeon II is not that expensive). the only problem is that i want to use Win2k. does anyone know if there is a good comparison online of the radeon using the newest drivers and service pack 2? any personal experience of the radeon in win2k sp2 in games such as tribes 2, UT, q3, etc, on a fairly high end system would also be appreciated.

thank you.
--jacob

 

[jobberd]

forget the Radeon, you need a kyroII!
I am currently running on a P3 800, 320MB RAM Radeon 32 DDR with Win2k sp2. However, there are some issues with the past drivers in my comp, so its not performing to its full capacity. I shall be reformating soon and once i do that, I shall let you know how well it performs

 

[EdipisReks]

i would really appreciate it if you would tell me how it goes. please send the results here when you get finished.

thanks!
--jacob

p.s. i hope this thread will work out alright.

 

[EdipisReks]

^BUMP^

 

[NicColt]

don't settle for third best like the Kyro, I mean it's an ok card for the normal Joe, or the local peasant, it's the common man's card, a card for the local yokels, it's a type of card I would put on the servants computer.

I have win2k with sp2 and a Radeon, and from someone that requires the finer things in life, it's more than acceptable for a person of my finer requirements.

 

[hans007]

back when i had a desktop, my radeon worked fine in win2k. for some reason i dont think he wants to go with a kyro, especially since he probably actually wants the vivo features on the 64mb vivo

 

[jobberd]

to any pro-kyroers out there - please ignore niccolts message, since it is most obviously a troll

 

[EdipisReks]

to anyone who did not understand jobberd's "forget the Radeon, you need a kyroII! ", or why i hoped that this thread would work out alright, check out the thread "mods, please lock this thread because of rampant thread crapping". it has about 60 posts, and should be easy to find. all will be explained

--jacob

p.s. you're a good guy jobberd

 

[rbV5]

Sorry, I didn't get time to run any games with FSAA, but I haven't forgotten.

It seems as if a guy can't just ask a legit, seemingly narrow specific question without the flood of thead crapping OT BS in the video forum any more. What gives? I checked the thread you started last night to see what was new, and wtf happened there? I wish some of our fellow members would maybe think before posting that stuff, somewhat shamefull I'd say.

 

[EdipisReks]

yeah, i thought that i had the crapping under control last night. boy was i surprised when i checked the board this afternoon. *ouch, it was painful* hey, its not that bad. i became a senior member because of that thread. take your time rbV5. it'll be a while until i have money for the card .

--jacob

 

[rbV5]

<< hey, its not that bad. i became a sernior member because of that thread >>



LOL, congrats!

 

[Geekbabe]

I just installed my new Radeon 64 mg(retail and it's working beautifully in Win2k.

Because this was my 1st install of Win2k and I wanted the smoothest install possible I used the drivers that shipped with the card I'm very pleased with the image quality in Q3 I also appreciate the crispness of my fonts and the excellent 2D
on my 21 inch monitor.

 

[EdipisReks]

baffled2, hearing that your card is running fine makes me even more suspicious of the whole &quot;radeon win2k=suk&quot;. the drivers on the CD are &quot;supposed&quot; to be sub-par. hey rbV5, when i read your post, i realized i had spelled &quot;senior&quot; incorrectly in my last post. were you congratulating me for being a &quot;senior member&quot;, or a &quot;seRnior member&quot;?

--jacob

 

[Geekbabe]

EdipisReks


I love checking out new released or beta video drivers but since this was my 1st install of Win2k I was nervous and wanted everything as &quot;vanilla&quot; as I could get it.

I installed Win2K, the Via AGP driver, then my video drivers,then my sound drivers... and then installed SP2,lol, I'm probably giving myself bad luck by saying this but so far so good

I'm loving both the Radeon and Win2K thus far

 

[EdipisReks]

well, the fact that you are getting good performance from the included drivers goes, IMHO, a long way to degbugging the stereotype of radeon's have bad win2k performance.

--jacob

 

[duragezic]

I'll post what I posted from the other thread in case others are interestedL

I got win2k a couple months ago and installed the 3132 beta drivers. Everything I have tried so far works fine. UT, CS (Half-life), Tribes 2, Diablo 2, Quake 3, World War 2 Online. They all run as good or very close as they did in win98 except UT which is a bit slower but it's still very good with the newer drivers.

All this &quot;RADEON SUX0RZ IN WIN2k GET NVIDIA&quot; either doesn't apply with the newer drivers or I am playing the wrong games. For me, anyhow.

And regarding FSAA:

The only game I have tried with FSAA is WW2 Online and well that game needs a really good computer as it is (I pull 50fps max and as low as 15fps during huge battles and in a plane at 800x600x32). So that game just wouldn't be feasible to have FSAA unless you had a Geforce3 probably.

The FSAA on the Radeon isn't very good. If you want a card with good FSAA and so it is still very playable, you'd have to look into a V5 or Geforce3.

 

[EdipisReks]

thanks a lot, eagle_2, it was really good of you to repost your info since the other thread got killed.

--jacob

 

[rbV5]

<< were you congratulating me for being a &quot;senior member&quot;, or a &quot;seRnior member&quot;? >>



LOL, I saw that too, but I was giving you props for your new &quot;Senior Member&quot; Status. Congrats again.

 

[SpeedTrap]

radeon and w2k = HAHAHAHAHA

 

[Geekbabe]

EdipisReks


I just got brave and installed the beta drivers,so far so good
I don't see any differences but I keep my settings for highest visual qual;ity rather than the fastest speed. Gotta have my eye candy !

 

[Teasy]

My experience with Radeon tells me that if you want good FSAA performance then Radeon isn't the right card for you. When I had the Radeon (a few month ago) I couldn't even get FSAA to work in some games (which was never the case for my Voodoo5 and Kyro 1 and II) and when it did work it wasn't very fast at all. Its a quality card but FSAA is a weakness for it. Oh and that was with W98 BTW, AFAIK W2k is about 15% slower for the Radeon then W98 is.

 

[EdipisReks]

i really only want FSAA for some of the newer flight sims (tachyon, crimson skies, etc), so i'm hoping that they will be new enough for it to work with them. does the radeon still only offer 4x FSAA or none? firingsquad did an FSAA comparison last year, but it is very out of date. good to see that you are still here to make us laugh, WSPTrooper, because you are such a good rodeo clown (no offence to rodeo's implied, WSPTrooper just flails around comically like he it trying to get someone's attention). while not as good as FSAA, the fact that the radeon can run at pretty hi-rez in 32 color will probably be good enough for me. the only problem is that some games like tachyon only offer 640x480, 800x600, or 1024x768, and i can already run them at the highest resolution with my current crappy system. i really want that great image quality and the VIVO features. FSAA is just icing on the cake, really.

thanks a lot!
--jacob

 

[EdipisReks]

on a somewhat related point, does anyone know if ATI will be releasing a HDTV tuner card any time soon? i know they were talking about releasing one, but i never heard anything about whether the idea came to fruition or not.

--jacob

 

[EdipisReks]

baffled2, i agree. as long as the performance is kept at nice, enjoyable levels, eye candy is better than adding 200 FPS to that nice, enjoyable performance level.

--jacob

 

[HappyGamer2]

jacob, not trying to change the subject, but if you want Fsaa, the voodoo5 or geforce3 maybe the answer, (maybe a geforce2 ultra or pro???)
unsure how the V5 will work with some of the new flight sims in win2k thou
maybe even hold out to see what the radeon2 will be like