Radeon HD 6790 based on Barts LE with 800 SPs [nordichardware.com]

[bryanW1995]

Just to clear up the current pricing MISinformation that is being thrown around, a quick look at newegg RIGHT now shows the cheapest 5770 going for $130 with a $20 MIR and a 550ti going for $135 OR $150 with a $20 MIR.

And just so we're clear, every day prices of the hd5770 are NOT $100. Those are really good deals that either don't last long at all, aren't widely available, and usually need MIR's to reach that price point. I'm not saying the 550ti is worth the extra money over a 5770, and I'm not saying the 5770 can't occasionally be had for under $100, I'm just saying the lowest everyday going price for a 5770 is $110 AR right now, and the lowest going price for a 550ti is $130 AR right now.

none of those deals holds a candle to widely available $90 AR gtx 460 768 deal. That has been available off and on for 4 months now, though it should go away soon as NV is discontinuing that card.

 

[Silverforce11]

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1598095

first review out. smacks the 550ti silly at a lower price. may have the ability to unlock to full 6870, hence shipping with 2-6 pins.

 

[Phynaz]

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1598095

first review out. smacks the 550ti silly at a lower price. may have the ability to unlock to full 6870, hence shipping with 2-6 pins.

Meh, 40w more power over a HD5770 for a few fps. Not worth it in my opinion.

 

[notty22]

smacks the 550ti silly

The OP comment from Hocp mentions slightly faster than the 550 and your growing that to smacks it silly ?
F1 and Mafia II looked equal to me.

 

[Gloomy]

The OP comment from Hocp mentions slightly faster than the 550 and your growing that to smacks it silly ?
F1 and Mafia II looked equal to me.

Yeah and on every other game there's like a 40% lead in favor of the 6790. Seems pretty silly to me.

 

[notty22]

Yeah and on every other game there's like a 40% lead in favor of the 6790. Seems pretty silly to me.

Ok move along

 

[Silverforce11]

The OP comment from Hocp mentions slightly faster than the 550 and your growing that to smacks it silly ?
F1 and Mafia II looked equal to me.

$120 vs $140 and is ~25% faster, that is a smacking. price/perf at these low ends are very important.

 

[Phynaz]

Yeah and on every other game there's like a 40% lead in favor of the 6790. Seems pretty silly to me.

Did you see different charts than the rest of us?

 

[Arkadrel]

Its clearly faster than the 550ti, from that review didnt lose to it even in the games that favor nvidia cards more (granted they didnt show civ5).

Looks to be like 10~30% (depending on game) faster than a 550ti, and at a cheaper price point? Seems like a good value card.

Nvidia's 550ti is around 238mm^2
AMD's 6790 is around 255mm^2 (assumeing itssalvaged 68xx chips)

So for once nvidia wont be useing a bigger chip , but then the 6790 is 10-30% faster.

 

[AtenRa]

From the review on HOCP ( http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1598095 ) the GTX460 768MB is faster than the HD6790 in 99% of the tests.

Do we have price confirmation yet ??

 

[Silverforce11]

we're going to have to wait, the real mystery is whether they can unlock to full 6870 cores. i dont think amd is that crazy to allow that..

 

[Skurge]

From the review on HOCP ( http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1598095 ) the GTX460 768MB is faster than the HD6790 in 99% of the tests.

Do we have price confirmation yet ??

Yeah, its not looking good. We'll have to see final reviews though.

 

[Arkadrel]

@AtenRa

nice catch, didnt notice it at first.

6790... 10-30% faster than a 550ti.... still slower than a 460 768mb >_<'

Current newegg 460 768mb version seem to be around the 149$ mark... so this card will have to be atleast 10$ cheaper, or more.


460 is a 332mm^2 chip, the 6790 a 255mm^2 chip.
AMD should be able to price it lower than the 460 768mb.

 

[formulav8]

If this card ever gets to the $100 price it would be worth it to me to replace my 5750. I only paid $75 shipped for my 5750 about 10 months ago, so I may be able to sell it for the price I paid for it?

Edit: If the specs are right in that review then only having 16 rops is what killed the expected performance of the card? I'm guessing most thought it would be 32 rops or just me?

 

[notty22]

If this card ever gets to the $100 price it would be worth it to me to replace my 5750. I only paid $75 shipped for my 5750 about 10 months ago, so I may be able to sell it for the price I paid for it?

Edit: If the specs are right in that review then only having 16 rops is what killed the expected performance of the card? I'm guessing most thought it would be 32 rops or just me?

That is indeed what makes this card a big step down from a 6850. A 16 rop, 2- 6 pin card is not a good combination. 16 rop's is what killed the 5830.


The 6850@775mhz VS the 6790@840mhz

 

[-Slacker-]

Wait, 16 rops? Really? Again?

 

[BladeVenom]

Newegg has one in stock right now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131397

 

[hdfxst]

Newegg has one in stock right now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131397

They're not going to sell many at that price,you might as well get a 6850

 

[notty22]

In that picture the card has only 1 6 pin. Its clocked at 840mhz, which is higher than what 6850's are tested at , 775mhz. The card at 150.00, VS 180.00 for a 6850 is not a good deal. With 16 rop's, even o/c, the performance gains will not scale up well.

 

[tviceman]

Well, at the very least, the gtx550's are being repositioned and priced at what they should have been at launch.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814134130 - $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162078 - $115 AR

And a couple at $130 AR....

 

[blanketyblank]

The 5770 is either a really long lasting card or AMD and NV haven't added much improvement to this price range over the years. 5770 was $150 almost 2 years ago and now 550ti and 6790 are roughly the same performance at about the same launch price.
Looks like 550 ti performance is equal to 5770 to be about the same performance (looks like 5-15&#37.

 

[-Slacker-]

I don't understand why amd keeps overpricing their LE products like that. The hd 7890 is basically barts xt refuse, something that they would have otherwise thrown in the dumpster. Instead they get to make money on that too. So why be greedy?

 

[3DVagabond]

In that picture the card has only 1 6 pin. Its clocked at 840mhz, which is higher than what 6850's are tested at , 775mhz. The card at 150.00, VS 180.00 for a 6850 is not a good deal. With 16 rop's, even o/c, the performance gains will not scale up well.

$150 is ridiculous. You can get 6850 for less even (AR). Likely this is Newegg trying to establish a higher price to discount from.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

With 16 ROPs, doesn't that pretty much make this card a 5770 with twice the memory bandwidth? Same number of shaders at roughly the same clockspeed with the same number of texture units. The 5830 should be an overall faster card than the 6790 - although it seems they'll simply clock the 6790 high enough to match the 5830. Only big advantages are power consumption and a slightly enhanced tessellator for the 6790.

The card is more crippled than we were originally lead to believe. Well, from a learning perspective we can see just how memory bandwidth plays a role in performance if we compare the 6790 to the 5770. From those prelim benchmarks bandwidth is a game-by-game basis.

 

[Skurge]

I don't understand why amd keeps overpricing their LE products like that. The hd 7890 is basically barts xt refuse, something that they would have otherwise thrown in the dumpster. Instead they get to make money on that too. So why be greedy?

ROFL.

Stupid naming caught you out huh.