Radeon HD 3800s to be cheaper than 8800 GTs?

[taltamir]

god no, I am staying away from duel GPU as if it is the plauge... I don't want duel to become the norm and single to die (like happened with CPU dies...)

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Originally posted by: munky
If Ati's 3800 series were slower than the 8800gt, would Nvidia have pushed the launch forward by several weeks? I find it laughable that fudzilla claims the 3800 will be slower, when I have not seen even the slightest believable hint that it will be so.

Not necessarily.

Two parts of econ: profits and market share. Had nVidia let ATI release first they would have lost a lot of the potential market. By releasing they've pretty much guaranteed that they own mid-range market currently regardless of whether or not ATI's 3800s perform similar to the 8800GT. (if they can supply enough)

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: taltamir
god no, I am staying away from duel GPU as if it is the plauge... I don't want duel to become the norm and single to die (like happened with CPU dies...)

Well that's a whole different ball game now isn't it?

The major difference is that dual CPUs are in 1 physical package. Dual GPUs (save for the 7950GX2, maybe a few other attempts) has to be done by having 2 physical packages.

 

[Sureshot324]

If the HD 3800 is slower than the 8800gt, I just hope AMD doesn't delay it for ages trying to make it faster. Just release it and then worry about making a faster card.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: munky
If Ati's 3800 series were slower than the 8800gt, would Nvidia have pushed the launch forward by several weeks? I find it laughable that fudzilla claims the 3800 will be slower, when I have not seen even the slightest believable hint that it will be so.

yes, that's a very good point. nvidia is also rumored to have bumped up the clocks on 8800gt quite a bit at the last minute. did they do that just for fun? hmmm...

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: lil buttercup

Originally posted by: Powered by AMD
I like VIVO capabilities in a video card, but I was looking forward to the 8800GT for the price.
If ATI if 8% behind G92, and sells for 40 bucks less, Ill consider buying it.

*looks at your screen name*

LOL

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: saiga6360
I am going to hold off on the GT which I admit is great price/perf right now until I see some real numbers for the RV670. I may end up getting both since I have two machines. I like the fact that they are low power single slot gaming solutions. One should be perfect for my HTPC and the other on my aging XPS GEN4 rig. Hopefully both will be within the 300$ price range end of November. I might jump on a GT early if the price is too tempting.

I totally disagree. It is much too expensive for the performance. Cards that come out now priced at 270 to 300 now should have greater performance. The 8800GTS and GTX were/are overpriced also considering the lack of substantial increase of performance relative to last generation's cards, and that they cannot perform well on new games. New cards should eat up new games. I mean, are we buying new cards to play old games??? The reason they are priced the way they are is b/c they are the best thing out there.. which doesn't mean they are good- they are just the highest performing option. 200 dollars might be a good deal for a GT.. but even then..

But they depreciate faster than you can collect $500 as soon as games are available taking advantage. That's why I never buy high end cards.

you just need to start collecting $$ faster... 😉

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: taltamir
god no, I am staying away from duel GPU as if it is the plauge... I don't want duel to become the norm and single to die (like happened with CPU dies...)

Well that's a whole different ball game now isn't it?

The major difference is that dual CPUs are in 1 physical package. Dual GPUs (save for the 7950GX2, maybe a few other attempts) has to be done by having 2 physical packages.

duel cpu is also extreme useful, because you can have one core running all the background processess and one running your game / other intensive application... it is also excellent for video encoding. Even just for windows browsing you have 30+ processess running, so extra cores make it more spry.

Duel video cards are splitting a single application between different cores, rather then having a multiple applications per core. This makes 2 GPUs less efficient then twice a single GPU... and require special driver support (sli profiles and the like)...

Plus the cards already cost an arm and a leg AND already take a ton of electricity, generate tons of heat, etc...

I mean a video card is an entire enclosed computer with MORE computational power then your regular computer... but more specialized and unflexible...
And a single video card already has multiple processors... although they are all integrated into the same die... i mean, haven't we been hearing about how many "stream processors" those cards have? Even a CPU contains many different ALU (arithematic logic units, aka, a calculator) And some video cards have multiple dies.. for example some GF8 cards had their normal die, and a tiny (1/10 the size) second die containing HDCP circuitry... It really makes no difference to me how they build it, I just don't want it to become a huge behemoth... I shy away from duel slot, so whats next? quad card each taking two slots?