Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB Trianbles and Squares?

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niteshadw

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I have an issue with my card, when I play a game I see either triangles forming from figures as seen here or little squares blinking at random areas in a figure as seen here - there is a little square down under the table, ther tables' shade...its tiny and gray..they appear arandomly on the firgures...

Does anyone know what could be wrong?

P4 3.0C
Asus P4C800 Deluxe
2 x 512MB DDR400

Directx 9.0a
I've installed the original drivers from the ati cd, then updated to the newer version (without any uninstalling) catalyst drivers.
 
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To to a FULL uninstall (and i do mean FULL)

Check out the this tutorial

I did it yesterday and it worked like a charm... Just make sure you do it from safe mode, as deleting the stuff in the /system32/ directory wont work unless your in safe mode...
 
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niteshadw

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Great rid of the nvidia drivers!
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No nVidia drivers here...fresh system and this is the only card I've installed...


I'm going to try to uninstall the drivers and just install the 3.5 as suggested...
 
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niteshadw

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Well I've uninstalled the drivers and all and just installed the new one with the control panel, however the samething is happening...any other suggestions?
 
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TheDigitalJedi

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Hello all,

I went through a scenario similar to this one. It happened when I enabled 8X AGP. The visual defect went away when I increased my AGP voltage from "AUTO" to 1.7 in my BIOS. I also have the "Alternate Pixel Center" which is found in the ATI Propeties enabled as well. I no longer have anymore visual defects in my games and everything runs fine.

Hope this helps. :)




P4 2.8 533 FSB
Asus P4S8X Gold Edition
WD 100 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache
WD 80 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache
ATI 9800 PRO 128MB DDR
Aver TV Studio Deluxe PVR
1.5 GB PC2700 DDR
Digidoc 5
LiteOn 48X12X48
LiteOn 16X DVD
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Platinum
Logitech ClickSmart 510 Camera
Logitech Z680 Speakers Set 5.1
MicroSoft GameVoice Headset
H3D Goggles Stereo Headset
22" NEC SuperBright Diamondtron

 
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niteshadw

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Originally posted by: TheDigitalJedi
Hello all,

I went through a scenario similar to this one. It happened when I enabled 8X AGP. The visual defect went away when I increased my AGP voltage from "AUTO" to 1.7 in my BIOS. I also have the "Alternate Pixel Center" which is found in the ATI Propeties enabled as well. I no longer have anymore visual defects in my games and everything runs fine.

Hope this helps. :)




P4 2.8 533 FSB
Asus P4S8X Gold Edition
WD 100 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache
WD 80 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache
ATI 9800 PRO 128MB DDR
Aver TV Studio Deluxe PVR
1.5 GB PC2700 DDR
Digidoc 5
LiteOn 48X12X48
LiteOn 16X DVD
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Platinum
Logitech ClickSmart 510 Camera
Logitech Z680 Speakers Set 5.1
MicroSoft GameVoice Headset
H3D Goggles Stereo Headset
22" NEC SuperBright Diamondtron

Check out my PC and ciz28's cable routing here.
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/quietstormofjazz[/q

I've looked through my BIOS, but I don't see any option to change the AGP voltage...maybe I'm blind, I dunno. I also don't see the option to change "Alternate Pixel Center" or where it is, I've looked through the ATI Control Panel, but nothing. Can you specify where it is? I'm sorry I sound dumb but I don't know where crap is in windows xp - I'm used to using Linux. I use windows for games but I've encountered this issue.


I have cat 3.1, anyone know where I could get 3.2 - if that's the best one?
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niteshadw

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Here is more screenshots of what I'm getting - these maybe better...

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thank you for all your help once again
 
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niteshadw

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It doesn't seem to allow me to change to 4x - I try but after reboot its back at 8x, maybe something in my BIOS but I don't see anything there.

No, I'm not overclocking anything.

The card was RMA because I had some issues - had yellow vertical lines, they tested it and restored to original settings (whatever that means since the card was brand new) and now it works, no lines, only this crap when playing games. Video is fine and all, only during game play. When I ALT+TAB back into the game, the errors dissappear and all...so I don't know what is going on. A friend had a similar issue with that, but he doesn't play games often so he don't care so I'm guessing he did not bother to fix. It has a Nvidia card though, GeFroce 4 5200 I think.
 
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TheDigitalJedi

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Hello all,

If you're at your desktop,

Right click
Scroll down to properties
Click properties
Click the Settings tab
Click on Advanced

The "Alternate Pixel Center" option is within the Direct 3D Tab. But the defects you're showing would not be cleared by that option. Your BIOS may not support the user to alter the AGP voltage.

You will see another tab that says SMARTGART.

Click on SMARTGART Tab
Adjust your AGP settings from 8X to 4X there.

You will have to reboot.

Do you have a chip configuration option with your BIOS? Some motherboards have AGP voltage settings there.

I hope this helps. I know how it feels to purchase hardware that doesn't perform the way you want it too.
 
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niteshadw

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Apr 20, 2003
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I've just found the option in my BIOS to change the AGP voltage from AUTO to 1.7...I have Catalist 3.1 installed now (removed 3.5. Fast wirting is off. I am unable to change to 4x, because after reboot it still shows as 8x.

Still same issue.... =(
 
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niteshadw

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Apr 20, 2003
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I still can't lower it to 4x from 8x - I don't know why. Did anyone have a similar issue or know how to slove it. The BIOS do not have an option to run the card at 4x or 8x as some of the others do. There is only AGP voltage and core speed (MHZ).

Uh, yes indeed it does suck when you buy hardware and it doesn't perform as everyone says it does. Especially since this is my first attempt with ATI - never had any issues with Nvidia. Well, atleast I hope I can get the problem fixed.

Which drivers should I try, I tried 3.1 and 3.5.
 
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ronnn

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I had those same type of renderings using an old geforce 2 mx card on certain games. I never did solve it.
 
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niteshadw

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Apr 20, 2003
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Yes, fast write is off.

I'll try the omega drivers, then if that does not work I will try it on my other PC, but its a PIII, so I don't know, but worth a try.

This could be a long shot, but could it be windows? It's the version with SP1 - this maybe a long shot but just asking considering the fact that, well its windows - something that MS made. As I stated above, that my friend had same issue, he used same windows CD, or I think it was the same one (seperate licences ofcourse)...
 
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TheDigitalJedi

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How many watts is your power supply? The manual says the bare minimum is 300 watts but it's best to have 400 watts or more. Your CPU alone will take approximately 80-90 watts. Is the fan on your video card working properly? What OS are you using? Check your BIOS again because most boards that support P4 3 GHZ will allow the user to toggle the AGP settings. What type of motherboard do you have better yet.........Display a detailed description of your full system specifications. I've seen the graphic corruption that you've displayed and most of the time the problem was solved by increasing the AGP voltage or disabling fastwrites. What I would also do is register the card and call ATI or whoever manufactured your card. I got a feeling that your card is not defective.........but something that we're overlooking. Something simple. :) How many fans are in your case?
 
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niteshadw

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Apr 20, 2003
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Ok here is what I did first when I put my system together (not the first system so its not that I'm screwing up - I hope..hehe)

I have:
P4 3.0C
Asus P4C800 Deluxe (1007 BIOS Version) - found the AGP settings and changed the voltage from AUTO to 1.7, everything else in default or auto - therefore I can't be overclocking
2 x 512 DDR 400
2 x WD 250GB 8MB Buffer
Audigy 2 Plantium
Sony DRU510A DVD+/- RW
Samsung 52x24x52 CD-RW and DVD Combo
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
400W Power Suppy (its not the top brand but it works so far, I'm planning to get a brand name one this weekend, 400W or more)
I have CUP and one side fan currently working.

I had issues with the card when I put the system together - had yellow vertical stripes going down my screen, so I RMA the card and they returned it saying that they have checked the card but found no problems but restored it to factory settings. It works fine now, but only in the game mode it has issues. Could it be windows? I have windows xp pro with sp1.


Thenk you for all your help, this forum is actually filled with helpful people.
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