Radeon 9700 vs GF4 Ti4600 benchmarks at GameSpot

[BeauJangles]

There will always be those willing to pay the $ to have the fastest card available, even if it isnt much faster. When it comes to the fastest gaming card available logic and price seldom become a very important factor.

Well said.

 

[CubicZirconia]

i dont think "pro " is really justified for a 10-15 mhz clock speed increase.

That reminds me of the whole Intel "extreme" graphics deal. But still, remember back to the geforce 2 series. The geforce 2 pro wasn't all that much faster than the gts either.

 

[Rand]

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia

i dont think "pro " is really justified for a 10-15 mhz clock speed increase.

Linky

Apparently the info going around QuakeCon is that the 'Pro' model will have a 350MHz core clock, and 320MHz memory clock. If so, the Pro model might be more then merely the 10-15MHz faster previously expected.

 

[hans007]

i was going by what the press release says.


http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020807/72030_2.html


325 core, 310ddr ram.

 

[yakkowarner]

With all the people bashing imtim83 for various things, how is everybody letting one of the worst claims made here go unchallenged? The idea that "percentages are misleading" is nonsense.

Percents do not show everything. It may seem to crush it with the percent numbers but the true fp numbers may not look like that.

% improvements can be awfully misleading. 30FPS is 150% of 20FPS, but is only a 10FPS improvement... not incredible. 30FPS is a full 200% of 15FPS, but still not incredible.
Push the frame rates down far enough, and even significant % gains can be had without a huge boost in frame rate.

If the standard card (say, the GF4 Ti4600) makes 20fps on a particular game, that game demands an awful lot of the system. For another card (say, the Radeon 9700) to make 30fps on that game, for a 50% improvement, is a big deal. Yes, it's "only 10fps", but that, the absolute frame-rate improvement, is what doesn't tell the story. If the standard were 300fps (as the GF4 Ti4600 can easily reach on older, less complex games), a 10fps improvement would be meaningless, and a 30fps improvement would be no big deal. A quick way to show how little a deal it would be is to note that it would only be 10% better.

And if there were some amazingly demanding game on which the GF4 Ti4600 made only 2fps, while the Radeon 9700 made 12fps for that "same" 10fps improvement, we should be astounded at the 500% increase, not belittling the achievement because the number still looks low. Absolute numbers are meaningless detached from the context of what's possible to achieve.

edit: Maybe this was unnecessary to post as most of the people here knew that and considered it too obvious to bother arguing.