RADEON 9500 128MB OR GEFORCE 4 TI 4400???

human2k

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I know the 4400 is faster, but doesnt the Radeon 9500 have way better 3d/2d quality?? ANd how about driver support, is ATI's as good as Nvidias?

Newegg has both for about $190. GOing to pair this thing up with a Dell 18inch LCD, I dont play much games other than Warcraft 3.

Edit: i meant 9500
 

SuperSix

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9500 or 8500?

You have 9500 in the thread title, and mention the 8500 in the body.

THe ATI may have slightly better 2D, but I would go for the nVidia, can't beat their drivers.
 

UsandThem

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I know the 4400 is faster, but doesnt the Radeon 8500 have way better 3d/2d quality?? ANd how about driver support, is ATI's as good as Nvidias?

Are you comparing a Ti4400 to a Radeon 8500 or 9500?

A Ti4400 is faster than a 8500, but I don't know about a 9500.

Driver support from ATI is now on the same level as NVIDIA. ATI really sucked for years, but the last 1-2 years they have been really good.

I had a 8500 for a year, but upgraded to the Ti4400 about two months ago. ATI still has the edge in 2d.
 

Deskstar

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In DIGITAL mode, the 2D on my Nvidia Ti4400 (o'clocked to Ti4600 speed) is the same as the ANALOG 2D on my Matrox G400 Max and the same as the 2D on my Matrox G450 (to my eyes only of course). Whether you go for the ATI 9700 or the Ti4400/4600 series is dependent on what games you play and on what resolution you intend to play them and also on what monitor you will play them.
 

GTaudiophile

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Ti4400 vs 9500 or 9500 PRO? Against the non-PRO version, the 4400 will win. The jury is still out on the 9500 PRO, though as no reviews have been done on retail boards. For those, you'll have to wait a few days/weeks.
 

capodeloscapos

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The 9500 Pro will be better, because of its DX9 compilance, but Ti4400 is faster...
I prefer 9500 Pro.
I haven´t seen any 9500 (non pro) bench yet.
 

FishTankX

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The pro version will probably meet or beat a Ti4400 in more than 50% of the benchmarks. It also has DX9 compliance and all of that good stuff.

The Radeon 9500 vanilla sucks. It's like a souped up Radeon9000. Regularly gets beaten by a Ti4200
 

MainFramed

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i am getting th GEFORCE 4 TI 4400....i have it in a another computer and its awesome. :D I like it alot...its fast...:)
 

Bovinicus

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The Ti4400 has a 0-20% increase in performance over the 9500 PRO. However, the 9500 PRO also has DirectX 9 compliance. It will probably last you longer if you are looking for a card that will give you a long life. In addition, if you like anisotropic filtering, then the 9500 PRO has ATi's adaptive method available to you with little to no performance hit. If you like anisotropic filtering, it should even out the performance difference between the two cards or even tilt it in favor of the 9500 PRO. If you are talking about the 9500, then the performance difference will be slightly larger. As well, the 2D quality will be slightly better. So, if this is a short-term solution and you don't often make use of anisotropic filtering, then the GF4 is the way to go. If it is a long-term solution and you like anisotropic filtering, then go with the 9500 PRO.
 

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I agree, the GeForce 4 Ti 4200 doesnt have DX9 Support like the Radeon 9500 Pro, I havent seen any 9500 Pro reviews. I hope it'll be a good budget card.
 

GoodRevrnd

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If you get the GF4 make sure it's one w/ DVI out for your flatpanel. A couple of them out there don't have DVI.
 

ed21x

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Driver's aren't really an issure as the catalyst driviers are rock solid right now. :)
I'd go with whichever is cheaper (Prolly ti4400)
 

CrazySaint

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Originally posted by: Bovinicus
The Ti4400 has a 0-20% increase in performance over the 9500 PRO. However, the 9500 PRO also has DirectX 9 compliance. It will probably last you longer if you are looking for a card that will give you a long life. In addition, if you like anisotropic filtering, then the 9500 PRO has ATi's adaptive method available to you with little to no performance hit. If you like anisotropic filtering, it should even out the performance difference between the two cards or even tilt it in favor of the 9500 PRO. If you are talking about the 9500, then the performance difference will be slightly larger. As well, the 2D quality will be slightly better. So, if this is a short-term solution and you don't often make use of anisotropic filtering, then the GF4 is the way to go. If it is a long-term solution and you like anisotropic filtering, then go with the 9500 PRO.

Actually, we still don't know how fast the R9500 Pro is. The card that Anand previewed only has 64MB of RAM and was on a castrated 9700 Pro PCB using unoptimized drivers.