Radeon 7900 Reviews

[Stuka87]

Will update this list as more come along.

ArsTechnica:
(Ryzen 5800X3D, Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero, 64GB DDR4-3200, Windows ???)
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...0-gpus-are-great-4k-gaming-gpus-with-caveats/

Gamers Nexus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We71eXwKODw

Guru3D:
(Ryzen 5950X, ASUS X570 Crosshair VIII HERO, 32 GB (4x 8GB) DDR4 3600 MHz, Windows 10)
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-review,1.html

Hardware Canucks
(Ryzen 7700X, Asus X670E ROG Crosshair hero, 32GB DDR5-6000, Windows 11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3XPNr506Dc

Hardware Unboxed:
(Ryzen 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570S Carbon Max WiFi, 32GB DDR4-3200, Windows 11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UFiG7CwpHk

Igor's Lab:
(Ryzen 7950X, MSI MEG X670E Ace,32GB DDR5 6000)
https://www.igorslab.de/en/amd-rade...giant-step-ahead-and-a-smaller-step-sideways/

Jay's Two Cents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq6Yp2Zxnkk

KitGuruTech:
(Intel 12900K, MSI MAG Z690 Unified, 32GB DDR5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qThrADqleD0

Linus Tech Tips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJ-vo6Ri9c

Paul's Hardware:
(Ryzen 7950X, Asus X670E ROG Crosshair Hero, 32GB DDR5-6000, Windows 11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10pefkW2qg

PC Mag:
(Intel 12900K, Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Hero, 32GB 5600MHz, Windows 11)
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx

Tech Power Up:
(Intel 13900K, ASUS Z790 Maximus Hero, 2x 16 GB DDR5-6000 MHz, Windows 10)
AMD: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx/
ASUS: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-tuf-oc/
XFX: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-merc-310-oc/

Tech Spot:
(Ryzen 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570S, 32GB of dual-rank, dual-channel DDR4-3200 CL14, Windows ???)
https://www.techspot.com/review/2588-amd-radeon-7900-xtx/

TechTesters:
(Intel 13900K, ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 HERO, 32GB DDR5-6000, Windows 11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uQh4GkPopQ

 

[Hans Gruber]

A lot. The CUs are VLIW2, meaning to get anything out of the theoretical 2x increase in FP32 performance, you need some driver magic. Without it, it's just the small ~20% increase in CUs (80 ->96) and whatever the extra clockspeed gives you (which isn't much, compared to 6950XT).

I think there are a lot of us who want to join team red. Not at these extortion prices though. I will wait it out. The sum of all fears for AMD should be if Nvidia starts selling 30 series cards made on TSMC silicon. Then it's all over for AMD. That may sound crazy to some of you. Nvidia bought a boat load of TSMC silicon slots that they have to use. The 30 series cards were made using Samsung silicon.

Obviously my timeline for the circus starts in 4 to 6 months.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I do not understand why AMD is not making as many graphics cards as possible.

It could be that the current botched batch of RDNA3 chips is just a limited run. They needed something badly to cash in on the Christmas shopping frenzy.

Maybe AMD already has the RDNA3 respin up and running in their labs and we may get an RDNA3 refresh by June of next year. AMD could even release a 32GB version of RDNA3 at $1500 to sway people away from "only" 24GB VRAM from Nvidia's flagship. Even now for $200 less, AMD is giving 8GB extra VRAM which will definitely factor into the buying decisions of a lot of people.

 

[Hans Gruber]

It's an economics question. The 3070 was $499-$550 MSRP. The 6800 was a $579 and the 6800xt was $649. It's a simple supply and demand question. Crypto is done and the computer market is in the tank.

 

[Aapje]

It also provides that 7% for $200 less. There's no reason to go for a 4080 instead of a 7900XTX, and the 4090 makes way more sense than the 4080.

I don't see how anyone can look at that chart, with multiple games with +20% better on the 7900XTX and quite a few with +10% and say that they would recommend the 4080.

Except that the reference model of the 7900 XTX has a much louder and smaller cooler than the FE of the 4080. You probably need to pay at least $100 extra to get an equivalent cooler on the 7900 XTX. So then it's only another $100 gap for which you get DLSS 2/3, CUDA, far better RT, better perf/watt, better 2nd hand prices and fewer driver issues.

Yet IMO they are both overpriced and I hope few people buy them to force the prices down.

 

[moonbogg]

I predict AMD exits the GPU market and focuses on CPU and integrated/mobile stuff.

 

[moonbogg]

I expect there is more performance that is still untapped in some titles, that will come with driver updates.

The negative knee jerk reactions are almost always a bad look with AMD GPU launches. Fine wine is fine.

At these price points rather than hoping for fine wine, I'd just say "OK Fine" and throw another $600 at the rig and get a 4090. Easy choice. These AMD cards are both too expensive by about $200. It's OK though because AMD totally hates market share in the GPU space for some really odd reason. They aren't as good as Nvidia by a long shot. If they want to sell a lot, they need to offer one hell of a bargain and they just aren't.

 

[Carfax83]

Flawed bench. An easy game to run @ 4k yet he chose basic settings. Have feeling extreme settings may have given different result. Always something fishy about HUB.

Prepare to get down voted for saying that

But it's crap like that which made me unsubscribe from their YouTube channel and block it. Their overall testing methodology isn't bad, but some of their results and decisions range from questionable to outright nonsensical.

 

[alexruiz]

Zen 4 ain't the fastest in gaming.

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Zen 4 is the fastest.
You obviously didn't analyze what the numbers you liked mean, you just picked one that validated your preconception of your favorite team being on top.
Furthermore, if the place has something like 3dcenter in the name it sound more official so even more reason to pick it.

That compilation is reviews from Zen 4 LAUNCH day.
Because you obviously don't understand how that detail is relevant, I'll explain it simply.
The Zen 4 performance today is not the performance at launch.

At Zen 4 launch, the newest AGESA for Zen 4 was combo AM5 1.0.0.1 D
Furthermore, AMD chipset drivers version was 4.08.09.2337.
That combo was rushed, and left performance on the table.

Fast forward a few weeks, the latest AGESA for Zen 4 is combo AM5 1.0.0.4, with 1.0.0.3A bringing a major performance jump. There have been at least 3 major AGESA updates since launch day.
Chipset drivers are now 4.11.15.342, 2 newer releases since, with the one in October bringing a major upgrade in power plans and core affinity specifically for AM5.
The performance for Zen 4 is now much more consistent, higher boosts on peak loads, higher clocks on sustained loads.

At launch, even after assuming that the reviewers updated the BIOS and installed chipsets drivers to the latest available, Zen 4 back then wasn't what it is today.
You remember some reviews posted fairly recently by HWUB, TechSpot and Jarrods Tech that show Zen 4 on top?
Yes, those reviews maligned by the fanboys of your team because they show team red now on top.

Grab those newer reviews, analyze the ABSOLUTE numbers for RPL, meaning the fps, not the relative number vs Zen4.
Compare the RPL numbers to any other review of your liking with comparable hardware. Are the numbers different?
They are not, if anything, their RPL numbers are better than other places, so they are not painting RPL worse light.
RPL is losing now because Zen 4 got much better.

Using Zen 4 launch day numbers is disingenuous at best, slimy at worst.
If you are looking for truth, you'll accept the fact that Zen 4 is getting better and better.
If you want, however, to prove that your team is the best, you don't need to see any data, you already have made up your mind, and will try to choose anything that validates your point.

So, what are you, disingenuous or slimy?
Same goes for your buddy @Carfax83
I have asked him to come and show how those reviews that showed Zen 4 on top handicapped RPL performance.
He has not shown it, and he won't because those reviews show RPL performing as it should in absolute numbers.
In the relative numbers vs the competition RPL looks worse now because the competition has refined its performance.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Specifically, they bought a boatload of 4N wafers. Are you suggesting that they re-do RTX 3xxx designs on this node?

Considering the 40 series does not have Ti models yet. It may make sense to have a 3080 on TSMC silicon with 16GB of ram or close to it. I am not talking about all the 30 series cards. Supposedly Nvidia has containers full of 40 series cards that had been waiting for release for 4 or 5 months before the official launch date.

I am just pointing out that Nvidia has a ton of TSMC silicon that they already paid for and TSMC would not offer refunds for unused silicon.

I do not understand why AMD is not making as many graphics cards as possible. Nvidia is 80% of the market if not more. AMD is only 12% market share. RDNA3 looks pretty good so far.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Lol. $200.

That'll be $400 in today's market.

I am curious, what is today's market without crypto mining? You think about that and in 6-8 months we can all see how the market looks. Where is the demand for graphics cards in 6 months time? In the toilet.

 

[Carfax83]

They test multiplayer benches with reduced settings because many people play this way to maximize frame rates in competitive playing. Many of their viewers requested they test this way for multiplayer driven tests.

This is a GPU review, not a game review. They can do that crap in a dedicated game performance test, which they have done in the past several times.

 

[Hans Gruber]

AMD better take this seriously. It's bad enough that most people's first GPU option is Nvidia. Breaking the trust of their loyal fans with their own reference designs can have serious long term repercussions for them.

All it takes from Nvidia is a 4060 with 16GB of Vram at $200 to bury AMD. They have all that TSMC silicon and nowhere to put it.

 

[moonbogg]

All those problems and more can be yours for only $1000.

 

[Carfax83]

...says a troll and his lurker buddy who never played eSports/competitive games in their lives.

And your account is how old? If anyone is a troll and a lurker it's you.

They literally had another poll last week asking if people prefer competitive games being benched at "competitive settings", max settings or max settings (including RT, were applicable). As expected, "competitive settings" won again.

Could care less about some stupid poll. They can do what they've always done and review MP game performance separately from the "hardware" reviews.

 

[moonbogg]

The prices AMD is charging for a clearly inferior product makes me see them as totally delusional and capable of only making bad choices. They won't last long in the market doing this crap. These 7900 cards aren't worth anything near $1000. They should be $600 and $700, not $900 and $1000, lol. Totally ridiculous. After the launch, people suddenly started buying 4080s because these 7900 cards suck so bad they make even the 4080 look like a good deal. I expect Nvidia could completely bury AMD in a single generation by releasing high-value, big performing products but they don't only to avoid monopoly law issues, etc.