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Jaskalas said:
Originally Posted by rudder View Post
So what you are saying is that there is only a 2 party system in the United States. Each party will then attract fringe elements. Those elements will then speak out and their statements will be tied to one of the two main political philosophies and their associated party. hmmmm interesting observation. I am amazed that this does not happen both ways though.

So then , hypothetically, if someone were to take a small group (i.e, TEA party members) to Tennessee's state capitol (far sake of argument) and profess that school books needs to be changed because they make the founding fathers look hypocritical.. that would not necessarily mean the whole republican party shares that philosophy or desire to see school books changed? Because I would hate to see a thread pop up in regards to some sensationalist story like this and those fringe elements involved be tied to every conservative who was ever born. I mean then I would have to go around calling people who posted these threads idiots.

Keen observation on your end my friend.
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Astutely eloquent.
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Seconded, very well said.
 
Moonbeam said:
You blind idiot, I included left and right in my comment.
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You blind idiot, you never come up with anything even remotely considered even handed if they were right leaning and making the same type of comments. You partisan hacks only go the "oh but everyone does it when their in a group", or "Well those are just the fringe" when it's left making the blunders, but if they were right, you'd be up their ass calling everyone even remotely right the devil and calling for their deaths.
 
Moonbeam said:
BS. Most of the raving lunatics on the left and the right and lots of more moderate souls will say the most outlandish things if encouraged by popular support but I doubt that 1 percent of the left or the right would ever themselves actually do what they say if they had a real chance. People will say all sorts of shit they could never actually do because they have organic shame and it will surface when the time is right.

Folk on the left and the right have been hurt and carry enormous pain. They want to hurt back but they know too that won't erase one bit of that pain. In a Christian nation everybody knows the highest command is to forgive.
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Reminds me of the story of the preacher preaching on forgiveness. At one point he asks the congregation to raise your hands if you have not forgiven people who have wronged you. Sheepishly, everyone raises a hand except for one very elderly man. The preacher asks "Sir, tell us how you came to forgive all those who have wronged you." The old man answers "Didn't - I outlived the sons of bitches." Point is, forgiveness is perhaps the hardest of Christian burdens.

However, I don't think that really enters in to the need to call out people like this. Forgiving those who trespass against you does not mean tolerating evil.
 
thraashman said:
Were YOU completely oblivious to the Bush years? Things Obama has done. Inherited a bad economy that has gotten worse that he's failed to fix. Pushed a healthcare bill agenda that the right disagrees with but is in no way a government takeover of healthcare. Attempted to shut down Guantanamo Bay and get rebuffed by Congress. Attempted to end tax cuts for the rich and get rebuffed by Congress. Shift focus of 2 inherited wars from Iraq to Afghanistan. Get passed a economic stimulus package that added to the debt and didn't stimulate the economy as much as expected.

What did Bush do? Go to war in Afghanistan (I don't disagree with this). Warrantless wiretap Americans unconstitutionally. Go to war in Iraq on a knowingly false premise. Shift resources from Afghanistan to Iraq causing the war in Afghanistan to take a turn for the worse. Authorize torture. Authorize illegal rendition. Put suspects into prison in Guantanamo for an indefinite time without access to a trial of any kind. Push through and sign TARP (which while I didn't like I don't think we had any choice).

While I'm not defending how people react, what Bush did and what Obama has done can't be compared. Obama is politically unpopular with the right. Bush violated the Constitution and got thousands of Americans killed unnecessarily and has violated the basic human rights of hundreds or thousands more.
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Way to go off subject from my post. My post was solely about the hate being spouted by left or right. Obama has received no where near the amount of hate Bush protesters poured out for him. That's a fact and any fucking idiot who tries to justify one or the other is just that, a fucking idiot.
 
bfdd said:
Way to go off subject from my post. My post was solely about the hate being spouted by left or right. Obama has received no where near the amount of hate Bush protesters poured out for him. That's a fact and any fucking idiot who tries to justify one or the other is just that, a fucking idiot.
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And MY point was that Obama hasn't done things to gain the type of hate that Bush got. The right has hated Obama since the beginning for being on the Left. The people who hated Bush hated him because he was a horrible, horrible person and a despicable president.

Guess what, I also hate Glenn Beck but I don't hate him as much as I hate Hitler. There are scales to things that you need to understand man.

And the hatred for Bush was largely proportional to what he did. The hatred for Obama isn't much less from the right than the hatred for Bush was from the left. And the hatred for Obama is not proportional to what he's done.
 
thraashman said:
And MY point was that Obama hasn't done things to gain the type of hate that Bush got. The right has hated Obama since the beginning for being on the Left. The people who hated Bush hated him because he was a horrible, horrible person and a despicable president.

Guess what, I also hate Glenn Beck but I don't hate him as much as I hate Hitler. There are scales to things that you need to understand man.

And the hatred for Bush was largely proportional to what he did. The hatred for Obama isn't much less from the right than the hatred for Bush was from the left. And the hatred for Obama is not proportional to what he's done.
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Bush did absolutely nothing to justify comparisons to Hitler or Nazism. Bush had much more venom spit at him and much harsher things said about him than Obama. Most of it unjustified. I'm not trying to defend Bush, I'm simply stating that anyone trying to say "omg this doesn't happen all the time" yes it does. People who identify themselves as "leftists" do this kind of shit ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

ps- i'm not a left vs right guy. picking sides is for people who are unable to think for themselves.
 
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bfdd said:
Bush did absolutely nothing to justify comparisons to Hitler or Nazism. Bush had much more venom spit at him and much harsher things said about him than Obama. Most of it unjustified. I'm not trying to defend Bush, I'm simply stating that anyone trying to say "omg this doesn't happen all the time" yes it does. People who identify themselves as "leftists" do this kind of shit ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
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To say the criticism of Bush is unjustified is to be almost completely unaware of his presidency. He was scum and one of the worst if not the worst human being to hold the office of President of the United States. Oddly enough I feel he's conducted himself with great honor and integrity after leaving office.
 
thraashman said:
To say the criticism of Bush is unjustified is to be almost completely unaware of his presidency. He was scum and one of the worst if not the worst human being to hold the office of President of the United States. Oddly enough I feel he's conducted himself with great honor and integrity after leaving office.
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So your opinion of Bush justifies your opinion of Bush. Again, I'm NOT DEFENDING HIM. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of it. Comparing Bush to Hitler or the Nazi's is extreme, anyone who does so is an extremist in their ideals. There is no justification for it, besides your opinion of Bush justifying your opinion on Bush.

I did not vote for Bush and I didn't vote for Obama. I am not trying to say what Bush did was not messed up, I'm simply stating that I have seen far more venom and hate from those who identify themselves as "left" than those who identify themselves as "right". Stop thinking I'm part of either, I do not identify with any group because like I said I believe only those who don't have the ability to think for themselves do so.
 
bfdd said:
Bush did absolutely nothing to justify comparisons to Hitler or Nazism. Bush had much more venom spit at him and much harsher things said about him than Obama. Most of it unjustified. I'm not trying to defend Bush, I'm simply stating that anyone trying to say "omg this doesn't happen all the time" yes it does. People who identify themselves as "leftists" do this kind of shit ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

ps- i'm not a left vs right guy. picking sides is for people who are unable to think for themselves.
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Except you picked a side.

-XxJhBBaLLxx
 
bfdd said:
my own side. i'm affiliated with no groups and identify myself with no groups. so if you're counting ME as a side, yes I've picked a side, ME.
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jhball is like a dumber, less articulate Craig, I'd ignore him if I were you.
 
Notice the difference here. Tea Party kicks people out if they act stupid, the Left cheers racists on even defending their racism.

This is a key difference.
 
thraashman said:
From having reread my posts. And having reread yours ... I wonder if you're illiterate or just stupid. Because I was not an apologist at all. At most I only ever pointed out that the outrage was excessive and possibly even unwarranted. In fact I took about the most middle of the road approach as possible.
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Well, I thought I was being rather middle of the road myself, but I guess to be seen as being "Fair and Balanced" by a few of the righties in here is to be as far right as they are in their outlook on all things.

That's an insurmountable problem if the purpose of the dialog is to get at the truth of the matter at hand, which seems to be the logical thing to do, for most.

But being reasonable is not a habit for these few, and apparently, seeking out the truth of the matter is not their intended purpose. Fine with me, as I can have a lot of fun reading their spiteful commentary all day, as I'm sure they're having just as much fun behaving the way they do. 😀


Usually, when I encounter employees who behave that way, it more times than not means that they have a weak cause to defend but are very passionate and loyal about it, or having been insessantly picked on for reasons beyond their cause or control, they lash out by being overly defensive and/or overly agressive in response, much like a wounded animal would protect their young while under attack.

I mean, how would any of us feel from having to defend the likes of Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Bolton and on and on and on for all of those years they were in office?


My sympathies and condolences go out to all of those who've had to endure all of that abuse and embarrassment. 😛
 
Left-wing hack parody: these people are being fed by left-wing hate mongers... it's only a matter of time until these people turn violent and left wing politicians will be to blame.
 
spidey07 said:
Notice the difference here. Tea Party kicks people out if they act stupid, the Left cheers racists on even defending their racism.

This is a key difference.
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The Tea Party has their own idiots and have picked a few poor choices to rally behind. Their only saving grace is they've done enough to almost be considered an entirely separate sect of the Republicans . One can only hope they've done enough to start the break up of the two party system, although it is starting to look like the Republican leaders are reeling them in.
 
So, let's review.

We have here a thread reportedly pointing out a few people who express their anger at Thomas that is well-justified with idiotically offensive language.

This is posted with the lie that it shows 'the left' generally is like this and is not 'tolerant'.

I respond that the people deserve criticism, and that it's a lie to imply that a few people show 'the left' are like them, without evidence; it's a lie to say otherwise.

From there, number of posts providing any defense that there is evidence the examples posted are representative of the left: zero.

No, instead we had posts saying that the response 'justified' the people's bad behavior when it had done no such thing. Apologies posted for this: zero.

Then we had things from name-calling, to repeating the errors, e.g., "The tolerant left!", to bringing up that Bush was criticized - nonsense.

We had the comment that the lefties cheered the comments in the clips, when they had done the opposite.

There are two issues from the OP. The first is, did the reported comments to 'lynch' Thomas deserve criticism; the second, did they show a generalization about the left.

On the first, the 'lefties' said yes, they deserve criticism. The righties lied about what the left had said, attacking them for 'justifying' and 'cheering' the comments.

On the second, the OP lied, and the right has provided no evidence otherwise - only name-calling and repetition of the lie.

The rest is nonsense. So, it's Left 2, right 0 on this pathetic thread, made of a few people acting badly, posted in order to tell a lie.

And yet, the righties think they somehow make a point when they post lies like this.

Another waste of time of the left giving singing lessons to pigs.

We have hardly mentioned - credit to Hal2kilo who did - the issue that people's reasons to be angry at Thomas are a separate issue from the offensive language.

That Thomas has been a horrible Justice, attacking the constitution and the American people, deserving of anger - a whorish ideologue appointed to serve that ideology, exploiting the issue of race by using his race to sneak him in as a black replacing an actual good black Justice.

Has hardly come up because the thread isn't to discuss the issue of Thomas, it's a righty trying to tell a cheap lie. That's what we have out of 71 posts so far.

The only question is whether to point out the flaws of the idiocy more and more or to ignore the thread.
 
Liberal filth...

At the end of the day, blacks are just a pitiful tool to used at these loon's leisure. Kayne West was right in saying Bush didn't care about black people. But Bush wasn't a racist, he simply didn't care about anything. Like Palin who knows nothing, Bush just doesn't give a shit about a god damn thing.

I see Breitbart was shown in that clip, I'm sort of a fan of his trolling and am curious what he can make of this rabble. Just look at the video, drug addicts, loons, homosexuals, and racists. Put him back in the fields? Are you fucking serious?! Cut his toes off? Just like your grandparents use to do?
 
Craig234 said:
So, let's review.

We have here a thread reportedly pointing out a few people who express their anger at Thomas that is well-justified with idiotically offensive language.

This is posted with the lie that it shows 'the left' generally is like this and is not 'tolerant'.

I respond that the people deserve criticism, and that it's a lie to imply that a few people show 'the left' are like them, without evidence; it's a lie to say otherwise.

From there, number of posts providing any defense that there is evidence the examples posted are representative of the left: zero.

No, instead we had posts saying that the response 'justified' the people's bad behavior when it had done no such thing. Apologies posted for this: zero.

Then we had things from name-calling, to repeating the errors, e.g., "The tolerant left!", to bringing up that Bush was criticized - nonsense.

We had the comment that the lefties cheered the comments in the clips, when they had done the opposite.

There are two issues from the OP. The first is, did the reported comments to 'lynch' Thomas deserve criticism; the second, did they show a generalization about the left.

On the first, the 'lefties' said yes, they deserve criticism. The righties lied about what the left had said, attacking them for 'justifying' and 'cheering' the comments.

On the second, the OP lied, and the right has provided no evidence otherwise - only name-calling and repetition of the lie.

The rest is nonsense. So, it's Left 2, right 0 on this pathetic thread, made of a few people acting badly, posted in order to tell a lie.

And yet, the righties think they somehow make a point when they post lies like this.

Another waste of time of the left giving singing lessons to pigs.

We have hardly mentioned - credit to Hal2kilo who did - the issue that people's reasons to be angry at Thomas are a separate issue from the offensive language.

That Thomas has been a horrible Justice, attacking the constitution and the American people, deserving of anger - a whorish ideologue appointed to serve that ideology, exploiting the issue of race by using his race to sneak him in as a black replacing an actual good black Justice.

Has hardly come up because the thread isn't to discuss the issue of Thomas, it's a righty trying to tell a cheap lie. That's what we have out of 71 posts so far.

The only question is whether to point out the flaws of the idiocy more and more or to ignore the thread.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Dude, you are THE Partisan Hack <- That's with a capital PH
 
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