Yes that is the assumption, now in that context ask the question and reflect on what effect your answer has on that assumption.
Yes that is the assumption, now in that context ask the question and reflect on what effect your answer has on that assumption.
Its not racist because the artist was stating an objective fact. Racism against white people is largely ignored in comparison to racism against blacks.
So if I make some art that states an objective fact about Black people it is not racist? Something tells me this is another one way street argument.
LOL
What can/have racist black people ever done to white people as a group?
What can/have racist white people ever done to black people as a group?
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I'm a cracker. I say run with the name until it's pointless. Well half of me is a cracker, the other half is an beloved patriot.
In and of itself it would not be racist. For example, you could create a work of art that says "black people tend to be criminals more than white people" and it wouldn't be racist. One would have to question your motives behind making such a piece however the act of creating the piece would not make you a racist.
Are the motives behind such art created by Hispanics, Blacks, or any other group questioned when the object is Whites? It seems more they are lauded for standing up against "the man". The double standards are as damaging as racism but that flies right over the heads of most.
Well it depends on how you answer those questions. If you have a hard time answering it, or you cannot answer it. Then that would answers your own question.
That was part of my point. The hispanic author is not a racist and made a good observation. Maybe it depends on how his statements are interpreted however when I read "Politically It's OK To Hate The White Man" I read it as a fact and nothing more. I don't think the author was trying to say that its justifiable to hate white people but rather that people can currently hate white people without serious public backlash.
If people like you would stop acting like Blacks and other groups have some kind of justification in acting any way they choose due to past injustices you would do more to combat racism than any other single act. You have to take the lead in how you expect others to act or you are wasting your time.
I interpreted it a different way in that I thought the art was satire on black people playing the victim mentality (add to the fact the lack of punctuation) 
Was that the point?
Was that the point?
"People like me" ? What type of person am i? I didnt even comment on what i think of the guy. I said:
Um, its NOT ok, individuals will have their opinions. Does it "promote thought" sure in some, others will say he is a racist ass. I dont know about his past art but the easiest way to get attention in bad art is to use racism or blasphemy.
I asked 2 simple questions. Both can be answered. The thing is, some people have a more difficult time answering the question: "What can/have racist black people ever done to white people as a group" If you are one of those people that in itself would explain WHY "reverse racism" or racism against non-minorites is "largely ignored in comparison to racism against blacks.
Edit: There is hardly anything that black people can do (actions) that can combat racism. Racism and racial stereotypes (Ronstang: "People like you") go back hundreds of years.
It's the white man's fault (hispanic here)
Every black can go on TV and make a joke about crackers, make a movie called black chicks, write stupid songs about whites and nobody says anything...
What about Sharpton? Where is he when 10 blacks gang on 1 single white guy @ school, or destroy public property, or become too loud on the street?
Why isn't he called by every damn US court to justify and apologize for those actions?
Imus says a funny thing about someone's funny hair (which it is) and all goes to hell...
I blame the whites!
Every black can go on TV and make a joke about crackers, make a movie called black chicks, write stupid songs about whites and nobody says anything...
What about Sharpton? Where is he when 10 blacks gang on 1 single white guy @ school, or destroy public property, or become too loud on the street?
Why isn't he called by every damn US court to justify and apologize for those actions?
Imus says a funny thing about someone's funny hair (which it is) and all goes to hell...
I blame the whites!
I saw the Imus thing.......LOL
Very very very funny! Very uncalled for.
And he called them "Hoes" thats messed up, these are college women.
EDIT: I think Al Sharpton is the "civil rights leader" "racial mothpiece" or whatever you want to call him for black people. Why would you expect him to be there if 10 black kids beat up a white kid at school? The fact that he is not there, or having a march in the street when a black teen kills anther black teen is a different problem for a different thread.
Your questions were posed to illustrate a justification for reverse racism. If you cannot see that then talking to you is useless. If you think people are being racist towards you then you need to take the high road and be better than them if you expect anything to change. Being racist back because you have suffered some injustice, whether real or imagined, is not going to get you anything but racism in return. It is a vicious cycle. Learn to step away from being the victim.
EDIT: My questions were posed to illustrate the ACTIONS and POWER of reverse racism by black people, Not the justification.
People dont "bring ill upon themselves"
Look at history. Racism has survied since black people "came" here. The sterotype of black people being lazy was created back when slave masters were calling SLAVES "lazy." Stereotypes of black people being violent survived even after a peaceful civil rights movement, that should have been a demonstration to the contrary and removed that stereotype. Seeing the penis size of ONE particular tribe of Africans has a stereotype the carries to this day. Thats just a few examples, these stereotypes are 100's of years old. SO FAR - There has been little we could do to make them go away. The majority is in control of the stereotype..........not the minority. You dont even KNOW me, yet you say "People like you." Im young and successful, i dont NEED to play any victim. Describe "people like me"...what kind of person am I?
I just asked 2 simple questions. There are TONS of examples in history of what racist whites have and can do to black people. There are FEW examples in history of what racist blacks have and can do to white people. (How is that a victim mentality) One side has done a lot more so its easier to point out, it happens more regularly and WILL be reported more regularly. When the oppisite happens it may be mostly ignored. (See good news Vs. bad news on prime time TV) I never said it SHOULD BE, im just stating 1 reasoning behind it.
Originally posted by: Citrix
i think you just made me go crosseyed.
OK let's see if this is that hard. "Politically It's OK To Hate The White Man"and
"Is it OK for me to hate if I've been a victim"
Is it OK to hate if you've been a victim. Most victims usually do, no? But is it right. Most people probably never ask, no?, because what they feel is to the always right. Who says I feel hate but it's wrong? I would say somebody who has been taught some higher morality that says it is wrong to hate in any circumstance, that hate is a poison that poisons the soul.
So depending on how deep your morality runs and how deep you introspect into the reality of emotional conditions it is certainly possible, I would say, to conclude that it is not OK to hate if you have been a victim. I mean, it's OK on one level because nobody is going to stop you, but on another level it may in fact be self damaging. So if it is not OK to hate if one is a victim, at the point where it is most natural to hate, it won't be right to under any condition, it seems to me. Therefore, the premise, Politically It's OK To Hate The White Man, is false. Now I would suggest also that maybe one of the functions of art is to put your own art in there with the artists by carrying on a dialog in your own mind about what you see. For a lot of folk, then, art may not be art because they bring no art into what they see.
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