Racism is okay if its against the other guy

[imported_Shivetya]

Got to love racists and bigots who think it "provokes thought" when its versus white Americans instead of any other minority.

Only government because artists like this have no real outlet in the public arena because they are not skilled enough to get anyone to buy.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

"Racism is okay if its against the other guy"

No, racism is not okay.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Find a way to blame "Liiiibrulz" and Democrats (same danged thang, right?) or you'll break your tradition.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
"Racism is okay if its against the other guy"

No, racism is not okay.

Sure it is...as long as someone is calling a white man cracker and no one complains....its ok.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
"Racism is okay if its against the other guy"

No, racism is not okay.

Sure it is...as long as someone is calling a white man cracker and no one complains....its ok.

Racism, no matter who it is directed towards, is never okay.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
"Racism is okay if its against the other guy"

No, racism is not okay.

Sure it is...as long as someone is calling a white man cracker and no one complains....its ok.

Racism, no matter who it is directed towards, is never okay.

So why does everyone look the other way?

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: Shivetya


Only government because artists like this have no real outlet in the public arena because they are not skilled enough to get anyone to buy.

Uh, this IS the "public arena".

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Got to love racists and bigots who think it "provokes thought" when its versus white Americans instead of any other minority.

Only government because artists like this have no real outlet in the public arena because they are not skilled enough to get anyone to buy.

I don't suppose you would bother to look at intent? Nah.

The artist, Alvaro Alvillar, who is Hispanic admits that he simply wanted to provoke thought with the item. He did not plan on encouraging racism.

So much for provoking thought, it's all knee-jerk around here all the time.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Did anyone read the article?

I simply wouldn't classify this as racist.

 

[beyoku]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
"Racism is okay if its against the other guy"

No, racism is not okay.

Sure it is...as long as someone is calling a white man cracker and no one complains....its ok.

Um, its NOT ok, individuals will have their opinions. Does in "promote thought" sure in some, others will say he is a racist ass. I dont know about his past art but the easiest way to get attention in bad art is to use racism or blasphemy.
Why do people think black people call white people crackers?
Only few times (2 or 3) in my life have i heard a person unprovoked use this word.

If it helps i think the term "Cracker" comes from idea of "Whip Cracker," the person who cracks the whip/slavemaster.

 

[Zedtom]

If they brought in Chris Rock and Don Imus to debate this issue, we could have the whole controversy settled quickly.

 

[LumbergTech]

this art doesnt seem to be racist to me..it appears to be anti-racist

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this art doesnt seem to be racist to me..it appears to be anti-racist

if the target of the line was reversed the story would be very different.

 

[Starbuck1975]

this art doesnt seem to be racist to me..it appears to be anti-racist

I have no problem with people wanting to provoke thought regarding race relations...however, when the start point for that discussion is a declaration that it is acceptable to hate the white man, I have a problem...only because a similar statement, but substituting "white man" with "black/latino/any other race" would cause quite an outcry from the targeted minority.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

This painting is pointing out something that is racist and for the most part true in many people's minds. And I think that this painting is clearly confronting, not promoting, that racism. It's literally spelled out in the painting for crying out load.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this art doesnt seem to be racist to me..it appears to be anti-racist

if the target of the line was reversed the story would be very different.

Different from a bunch of people having a strong knee-jerk reaction to a mediocre piece of art, without even finding out what the story is?

I don't think it would be very different at all, I think it would be exactly the same.

 

[thraashman]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This painting is pointing out something that is racist and for the most part true in many people's minds. And I think that this painting is clearly confronting, not promoting, that racism. It's literally spelled out in the painting for crying out load.

You are exactly right. And here I read the article and was thinking "I'm so ashamed to live in Atlanta where people are so stupid that something that is anti-racist is being portrayed as racist" ..... Then I read the thread and I realize, it's not an Atlanta thing. There are alot of stupid people all over the country. So at least this thread has for the most part made me feel less bad about where I live.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this art doesnt seem to be racist to me..it appears to be anti-racist

I agree.

It's akin to Huckleberry Finn - perhaps the greatest ANTI-racist works of all time. But the idiots get so caught up in Huckleberry Finn's portrayal of racist attitudes and its use of the "N" word that they insist the book itself is racist and want it taken off the shelves.

(Sigh) What can you do when half the population has IQs below 100?

 

[Starbuck1975]

It's akin to Huckleberry Finn - perhaps the greatest ANTI-racist works of all time. But the idiots get so caught up in Huckleberry Finn's portrayal of racist attitudes and its use of the "N" word that they insist the book itself is racist and want it taken off the shelves.

Well this proves an interesting point...any expressive form intended to make a political or social statement, in and of itself is benign...it is rather the reaction to the expressive form that defines the ripples by which society reacts.

Much of it has to do with artistic intent...some artists and writers find creative inspiration by challenging the very norms of society, or pointing out its many flaws.

However, regardless of the artist's intent, there is no denying that our society does hold a double standard in terms of what it will accept, and how it reacts, in any discussions regarding race.

 

[Arcex]

Originally posted by: Zedtom
If they brought in Chris Rock and Don Imus to debate this issue, we could have the whole controversy settled quickly.

Forget the debate, just have them settle it like men; a no-holds-barred grudge match battle to the death! Would bring in better ratings too.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This painting is pointing out something that is racist and for the most part true in many people's minds. And I think that this painting is clearly confronting, not promoting, that racism. It's literally spelled out in the painting for crying out load.

Yes, *sigh* apparently everyone with the exception of Shivetya can see that. :roll:

 

[Orignal Earl]

Mmmmm my Lord
Mmm my Sweet Lordddd

NEW YORK - A planned Holy Week exhibition of a nude, anatomically correct chocolate sculpture of Jesus Christ was canceled Friday amid a choir of complaining Catholics that included Cardinal Edward Egan.

The hotel and the gallery were overrun Thursday with angry phone calls and e-mails about the exhibit. Semler said the calls included death threats over the work of artist Cosimo Cavallaro, who was described as disappointed by the decision to cancel the display.

Chocolate Jesus exhibit canceled after uproar


mmmmChocolate

 

[Starbuck1975]

The hotel and the gallery were overrun Thursday with angry phone calls and e-mails about the exhibit. Semler said the calls included death threats over the work of artist Cosimo Cavallaro, who was described as disappointed by the decision to cancel the display.

But if the artist had created a chocolate Mohammed instead of a chocolate Jesus, the hotel probably wouldn't have even considered it for display.

 

[Moonbeam]

"Politically It's OK To Hate The White Man"and

"Is it OK for me to hate if I've been a victim"

That's what is in the painting. Answer the question. And remember a question a question not an expression of opinion.

You are not a racist if you ask, Is racism right? Is racism wrong?

These are just questions for you to think about and answer for yourself.

Naturally people with sore toes do not like questions. Imagine Bush liking the question, should he be impeached. Your emotional reactions and built in bias may cause you to react, but it does not mean your reaction is sane. In fact it usually implies the opposite.

 

[OutHouse]

"Politically It's OK To Hate The black man"