Racial Profiling is Dead to United Airlines

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LiQiCE

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Whats with the FAA regulation that joking about explosive materials will get you arrested on the spot? What the hell happened to freedom of speech? If I was in the Airport and I said to my brother that I just dropped a bomb in the airport bathrooms meaning I took a major dump does that mean I will get arrested?! ... I think some people are taking things a little bit to the extreme. I am so used to my freedom of speech that I usually don't worry about being arrested for saying something. I think thats is BS that they do that. I can fully understand concern about safety and searching my bags thouroughly if I say something like that, or if I had a suspicious book with me ... But I don't understand why you should be arrested for saying something. We're not living in a dictatorship or a communist country where freedom of speech is not allowed!

 

Amused

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<< Whats with the FAA regulation that joking about explosive materials will get you arrested on the spot? What the hell happened to freedom of speech? If I was in the Airport and I said to my brother that I just dropped a bomb in the airport bathrooms meaning I took a major dump does that mean I will get arrested?! ... I think some people are taking things a little bit to the extreme. I am so used to my freedom of speech that I usually don't worry about being arrested for saying something. I think thats is BS that they do that. I can fully understand concern about safety and searching my bags thouroughly if I say something like that, or if I had a suspicious book with me ... But I don't understand why you should be arrested for saying something. We're not living in a dictatorship or a communist country where freedom of speech is not allowed! >>



Freedom of speech has it's limits. You cannot joke about bombs in a airport for the very same reason you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater.
 

LiQiCE

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By definition, I thought 'joke' meant that you were not serious. Yelling 'fire' in a crowded place is dangerous because people think that there may actually be a fire. Saying that a bomb is on a plane when there isn't is dangerous because people think that there may actually be a bomb. Joking in general about explosive materials isn't dangerous ... Especially if it has nothing to do with a plane. I think they need to better define what "Joking about explosive materials" means because people can easily confuse a simple joke that involves something explosive with a serious threat like someone saying a bomb is on the plane when there really isn't. As per my example above about the bathroom, I would probably be arrested using that definition. I haven't read the actual FAA regulation, so perhaps it is more well defined than I thought, but going by what the article says it definitely needs to be reworked.
 

Amused

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<< By definition, I thought 'joke' meant that you were not serious. Yelling 'fire' in a crowded place is dangerous because people think that there may actually be a fire. Saying that a bomb is on a plane when there isn't is dangerous because people think that there may actually be a bomb. Joking in general about explosive materials isn't dangerous ... Especially if it has nothing to do with a plane. I think they need to better define what "Joking about explosive materials" means because people can easily confuse a simple joke that involves something explosive with a serious threat like someone saying a bomb is on the plane when there really isn't. As per my example above about the bathroom, I would probably be arrested using that definition. I haven't read the actual FAA regulation, so perhaps it is more well defined than I thought, but going by what the article says it definitely needs to be reworked. >>



Nope. Sorry, but you're wrong. The no joking rule was enacted after quite a few "straight" joking people caused an undo amount of panic in airports and on airplanes. Not everyone smiles or laughs when they joke. Every time a person "joked" about a bomb, it had to be taken seriously by security. Do you have any idea how much that screwed things up?

If an action causes panic, you are responsible for that action and the consequences of it.
 

LiQiCE

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Well, I guess I'll just have to keep my big mouth quiet when I'm at the airport just incase saying "plane" and "airport" and "butterknife" in a 5 minute span will get me arrested too.
 

Amused

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<< Well, I guess I'll just have to keep my big mouth quiet when I'm at the airport just incase saying "plane" and "airport" and "butterknife" in a 5 minute span will get me arrested too. >>



In Philadelphia it's a virtual certainty. ;)
 

StageLeft

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AmusedOne

Actually it was Lincoln and he said "Don't give up liberty for security. Thats bad, mmkay?"
 

Amused

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<< AmusedOne

Actually it was Lincoln and he said "Don't give up liberty for security. Thats bad, mmkay?"
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No, no no, that was Mr Mackie on South Park.
 

Cosmo

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this "beacon of freedom" stuff is going quickly out the window nowadays it seems. Hope this is just temporary as I always wanted to spend a few years in the US after I graduate.
 

StageLeft

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No, no no, that was Mr Mackie on South Park.

Ah, thats it. I knew it was from somewhere!

Cosmo

I know it can seem like people's opinions are going down the crapper, but there was a thread here about rounding up arabs in camps and although that is very extreme the majority of people here (by a big margin) said they wouldn't support it regardless of how bad things got.
 

TallBill

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im not sure if i can say that the security was right or not, but it really does make me want to bring a copy of Hayduke Lives onto my next flight.
 

Cosmo

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I think (hope) that discussions on a message board tend to get a little polarized. I hope that the stuff and opinions I read here today, about torture for one thing, is not to common among americans (I know it isn't with the ones I know) and it would really be a shame if you willingly let go of a lot of your civil liberties in times when you should be careful not to go with portrayed public opinion and question the actions and agendas of your leaders even more than usual.