Racial Grouping in Football

[poopaskoopa]

Originally posted by: edro
Why are there no GOOD white running backs in the NFL?
Why are there no GREAT white wide receivers in the NFL?

Why are there no GREAT black quarterbacks in the NFL?
Why are there no GOOD black kickers in the NFL?
Why are there not many GREAT black tight ends in the NFL?

This is just a trend that I see and everyone else I talk to sees as well.

No one has an answer.

Yes, there are exceptions to the rule, but generally, all of the above statements are true.

Edited the TE spot to say "not many".

I don't think the trend starts at the NFL. I see this trend in the NCAA, and I suspect that it's about the same in HS. So.... do young kids who're just starting to play football get put into certain positions based on their race, or do kids identify with certain positions based on what they see on TV(i.e. more black kids want to be RBs because they want to be like LT, more white kids want to be like Peyton Manning)?

Or do black kids run faster than white kids when they're 10 yrs old? If we could put these little kids through something similar to NFL combines we would know more!

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: UncleWai
You can replace all six questions with Asian in there and it works out too.

The only asian I can remember was Eugene Chung (offensive lineman) for the Patriots in the late 80's or early 90's. He sucked though.

Dat Ngyuen was one of the best linebackers in the nation when he played for Texas A&M and a very good linebacker for the Dallas Cowboys

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Ask Jimmy the Greek

Badum t'sh!

(Nice call)


If you want to move this down to NCAA football LSU has a white starting running back in Jacob Hester.

 

[Juno]

brian leonard is going to be the greatest white rb.

 

[LS20]

google sam mcguffie
also, matt jones runs a 4.3..and hes 6'4. monster

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Juno
brian leonard is going to be the greatest white rb.

And I know where he lives.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Deeko
There is no conspiracy here, people play the position they're good at. I hate to break it to you, this isn't racist, but guess what! Black people and white people AREN'T 100% the same, that's why they call them different "races". Does this mean there can't be a good black kicker or white running back? No, of course not, but in most cases, that's just how it works out.

:thumbsup:


Since we're all generalizing...

I'll go ahead and say what all the politically incorrects try to tiptoe around...

Black people are better athletes... bigger, faster, stronger
White people are better thinkers... analytical, decisive, composed

Generalizations to the extreme...but this is why you see more white QB's & Coaches... and more black RB's, WR's & etc...

Want another generalization? Black people cant play hockey...

Its not discrimination, its not prejudice... its just simple fact... we're different.

Rabbits dont climb trees, and squirrels dont dig holes into the ground.

Your comments on blacks are biologically proven. Their muscles are genetically "better" than whites. Your comments on whites are not proven.

 

[Juno]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Deeko
There is no conspiracy here, people play the position they're good at. I hate to break it to you, this isn't racist, but guess what! Black people and white people AREN'T 100% the same, that's why they call them different "races". Does this mean there can't be a good black kicker or white running back? No, of course not, but in most cases, that's just how it works out.

:thumbsup:


Since we're all generalizing...

I'll go ahead and say what all the politically incorrects try to tiptoe around...

Black people are better athletes... bigger, faster, stronger
White people are better thinkers... analytical, decisive, composed

Generalizations to the extreme...but this is why you see more white QB's & Coaches... and more black RB's, WR's & etc...

Want another generalization? Black people cant play hockey...

Its not discrimination, its not prejudice... its just simple fact... we're different.

Rabbits dont climb trees, and squirrels dont dig holes into the ground.

make lacrosse one of them.

 

[Juno]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Juno
brian leonard is going to be the greatest white rb.

And I know where he lives.

leaping machine!

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa

Originally posted by: edro
Why are there no GOOD white running backs in the NFL?
Why are there no GREAT white wide receivers in the NFL?

Why are there no GREAT black quarterbacks in the NFL?
Why are there no GOOD black kickers in the NFL?
Why are there not many GREAT black tight ends in the NFL?

This is just a trend that I see and everyone else I talk to sees as well.

No one has an answer.

Yes, there are exceptions to the rule, but generally, all of the above statements are true.

Edited the TE spot to say "not many".

I don't think the trend starts at the NFL. I see this trend in the NCAA, and I suspect that it's about the same in HS. So.... do young kids who're just starting to play football get put into certain positions based on their race, or do kids identify with certain positions based on what they see on TV(i.e. more black kids want to be RBs because they want to be like LT, more white kids want to be like Peyton Manning)?

Or do black kids run faster than white kids when they're 10 yrs old? If we could put these little kids through something similar to NFL combines we would know more!

I totally agree. I think it is just as much a culture thing.

Black communities and peers do not support their kids to become kickers or tight ends.
White communities may support their kids to be in all positions (think middle America football country), but they get beat out at the high school / college level by superior physical black kids.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Deeko
There is no conspiracy here, people play the position they're good at. I hate to break it to you, this isn't racist, but guess what! Black people and white people AREN'T 100% the same, that's why they call them different "races". Does this mean there can't be a good black kicker or white running back? No, of course not, but in most cases, that's just how it works out.

:thumbsup:


Since we're all generalizing...

I'll go ahead and say what all the politically incorrects try to tiptoe around...

Black people are better athletes... bigger, faster, stronger
White people are better thinkers... analytical, decisive, composed

Generalizations to the extreme...but this is why you see more white QB's & Coaches... and more black RB's, WR's & etc...

Want another generalization? Black people cant play hockey...

Its not discrimination, its not prejudice... its just simple fact... we're different.

Rabbits dont climb trees, and squirrels dont dig holes into the ground.

Your comments on blacks are biologically proven. Their muscles are genetically "better" than whites. Your comments on whites are not proven.

Actually, blacks generally have better "fast twitch" muscles while whites seem to have better "slow twitch" muscles which is why you usually see the fastest man at a track meet is black but the worlds strongest man competition is usually won by a white athlete.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: LS20
google sam mcguffie
also, matt jones runs a 4.3..and hes 6'4. monster

He also underachieves... 40 yard dashes don't mean squat unless you have discipline/run good routes/recognize coverage/have good hands, etc.

 

[edro]

Oh, and all you guys who think you are smart by finding the exceptions to the rules...
...you are only highlighting my point by drumming up old and/or mediocre players.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

from Airplane!:

the stewardess asks the passenger if he'd like something to read. he picks a very small pamphlet titled Famous Jewish Athletes.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: edro
I totally agree. I think it is just as much a culture thing.

Black communities and peers do not support their kids to become kickers or tight ends.
White communities may support their kids to be in all positions (think middle America football country), but they get beat out at the high school / college level by superior physical black kids.

ahhh....what?

By this post, you seem to say that black football players are superior in all positions, they just aren't "raised" to play those positions.

Also, this "culture" argument neglects the fact that quite often star athletes change positions between high school and college, and then from college to the NFL. It might be true pre-high school, but at the higher levels, players will play at the position they are best at. Do you really think, say, Bill Parcells really cares what culture thinks about the race of his players, per their position? Or Joe Paterno for that matter?

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: edro
I totally agree. I think it is just as much a culture thing.

Black communities and peers do not support their kids to become kickers or tight ends.
White communities may support their kids to be in all positions (think middle America football country), but they get beat out at the high school / college level by superior physical black kids.

ahhh....what?

By this post, you seem to say that black football players are superior in all positions, they just aren't "raised" to play those positions.

Also, this "culture" argument neglects the fact that quite often star athletes change positions between high school and college, and then from college to the NFL. It might be true pre-high school, but at the higher levels, players will play at the position they are best at. Do you really think, say, Bill Parcells really cares what culture thinks about the race of his players, per their position? Or Joe Paterno for that matter?

I think someone cares. At the college/pro level, they don't care, as long as they are a great player. At the lower levels though, I think the coaches would have greater influence over who starts at what positions.

 

[Deeko]

Probably, but like I said, its normal for a player to be moved to a different position when they go to college, or to the NFL. So even if they were stereotyped into one position at a lower level, if they really were better at another, they would most likely have moved there by the time they reach the NFL.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Probably because white guys don't want to play WR/RB, or they suck. And because black guys dont want to play kickers/TE, or they suck.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

I want to know why there's no Mexican football players. Statistics have shown that they're the best at getting stuff across borders, sneaking around border guards, and getting into other territory.

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
I want to know why there's no Mexican football players. Statistics have shown that they're the best at getting stuff across borders, sneaking around border guards, and getting into other territory.

I think it's a language conversion issue.

I think the kids say they want to play Football (Futbol Americano), but the parents think they said they want to play Futbol (soccer).

So all the poor Mexican kids end up playing Futbol (soccer) instead.

It's tragic...

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: Phokus

He also underachieves... 40 yard dashes don't mean squat unless you have discipline/run good routes/recognize coverage/have good hands, etc.

he has good hands. when david garrard is the QB, all WRs underachieves.

 

[krunchykrome]

Gotta disagree with you on the tight ends.

 

[Yongsta]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Dat Nguyen, Dallas Cowboys

Hines Ward is half-korean, his mom still actually works for an elementary school as a cafeteria worker. There's also Kailee Wong, Will Demps, Junior Seau, Troy Polamalu (sp?), etc. Scott Fujita is white but was adopted by a Japanese Father / White Mother. I also believe there was some Japanese receiver that played for the Falcons in the preseason. There's not many asians overseas who play american football or even know what it is. And over here in the US there's not many asians at all.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Yongsta

Originally posted by: Deeko
Dat Nguyen, Dallas Cowboys

Hines Ward is half-korean, his mom still actually works for an elementary school as a cafeteria worker. There's also Kailee Wong, Will Demps, Junior Seau, Troy Polamalu (sp?), etc. Scott Fujita is white but was adopted by a Japanese Father / White Mother. I also believe there was some Japanese receiver that played for the Falcons in the preseason. There's not many asians overseas who play american football or even know what it is. And over here in the US there's not many asians at all.

Tedy Bruschi (aka, greatest linebacker ever, GO PATS! ) is half filipino.

 

[Hammerhead]

Originally posted by: sao123
squirrels dont dig holes into the ground.

Not true! those fuckers are all over my yard digging holes to bury their nuts