Rachel Dolezal 2.0? Black Lives Matter Activist, Shaun King, Outed as White

[Subyman]

Better have a DNA report ready before being a race activist. The amount of dirt people will dig up and sling around to not have to address the message is staggering.

 

[Moonbeam]

Going off the "self hate" deep end in 3 ...

Oh look! How surprising you shined on your shame. Another missed opportunity to atone. Maybe next time.

 

[Moonbeam]

Better have a DNA report ready before being a race activist. The amount of dirt people will dig up and sling around to not have to address the message is staggering.

We just had to ask
Maybe some one out of Heaven
Would hear us down here

We couldn't bear to stand
How the people leave us waiting
For something up there

Oh, why did you leave?
And why won't you come?
And save us again?

Come back to us spiders
Come uncrush my hand
Let peace and beauty reign
And bring us love again, like you can

We just didn't know
Someone there outside in Heaven
Heard us down here

We couldn't stand it here
How the people leave us longing
For something up there

Oh, why did you leave?
And why won't you come?
And save us again?

Come back to us spiders
Come uncrush my hands
Let peace and beauty reign
And bring us love again, like you can

Come back to us spiders
Come uncrush my hands
Let peace and beauty reign
And bring us love again, like you can

So much time, we need to ask everything
How did it go
You need it I got it

Come back to us spiders
Come uncrush my hands
Let peace and beauty reign
And bring us love again, like you can

Come back to us spiders
Come uncrush my hands
Let peace and beauty reign
And bring us love again, like you can
Like you can

 

[alien42]

Yes, they've completely gone off the deep end. This is what happens when you follow "progressive" PC stupidity to its (il)logical conclusion.

you're one to speak after repeatedly attacking Shaun King when it was you who was in the wrong...

Another Dolezal --- a liar and idiot who seeks to gain followers/power/influence by conning simpletons.

The bottom line is that the guy has been outed as a complete fraud, he got a scholarship that should have gone to someone else, and has lied and fabricated stories to build his SJW cred. His race should not matter at all in terms of supporting some social cause, but he was probably well aware that many in this particular movement are racist and would not tolerate anyone outside of the approved race being part of (or even leading) the movement.

Just like dolezal, this idiot is doubling down on his lies because he knows there are fools out there who will continue to believe his garbage. He'll continue to lie and play it out, and then eventually come up with some BS story to justify the lies. Idiots will nod their head approvingly as he does this.

looks like the idiot here was you.

 

[BoberFett]

Wait, so now what 'the left' thinks is embodied by what a few idiots say on Twitter? I'm reasonably confident that you've complained about people doing the reverse about 'the right'.

If what people say on twitter counts as what a whole ideology of people think though, we can have an absolute FIELD DAY with 'the right'. Does that sound like a good idea?

Seriously? The right is framed by the actions of a few ALL THE TIME.

 

[BoberFett]

According to the story you are telling yourself. My story is that I can't tell stories because I don't know anything.

Well done. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

 

[fskimospy]

Seriously? The right is framed by the actions of a few ALL THE TIME.

Do you think describing a political ideology based on what a few people say on social media is a smart and/or accurate thing to do?

 

[Moonbeam]

Well done. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

The problem isn't that I don't know anything. The problem is that you think you do. You don't even know what the problem is.

 

[BoberFett]

Do you think describing a political ideology based on what a few people say on social media is a smart and/or accurate thing to do?

Of course not. But what's good for the goose...

 

[Subyman]

Of course not. But what's good for the goose...

It's not good for anyone. What is shameful for the goose...

 

[Vic]

Of course not. But what's good for the goose...

Bitter much?

 

[halik]

Oh look! How surprising you shined on your shame. Another missed opportunity to atone. Maybe next time.

Is shame your new thing, since people crack up over your self-hate spiel these days?

 

[Vic]

Do you think describing a political ideology based on what a few people say on social media is a smart and/or accurate thing to do?

It's not just social media doing this anymore. People seem to be increasingly reluctant to acknowledge that someone who disagrees with them might just have a different viewpoint or a competing interest, and instead jump straight to conclusions of demonization and dehumanization using the most extreme possible straw men and false equivalencies.
It's sad really, and the most glaring reminder IMO that critical thinking skills are not being taught in our schools.

 

[Vic]

Are you trying to say that if Martin had been white that the response from the left would have been the same?

What happened to you Vic?

No, I was trying to say that if Martin had been white that the response from the right would have been different. The left's too, I'm sure, but why does that matter?

 

[Vic]

No no no tthat's not how this works. I'm smart enough to know that Vic is way way smarter than me. You just assumed I was saying I'm smart enough to understand everything about the points he makes. I read every post of his I can find in the hope of learning something.

I just want to recommend that you slow down a bit and try to take more in, start with a charitable attitude. Assume something is there you may have to dig for.

Yaknow, Moonie, I do appreciate your confidence in me, but I'm not always sure that it helps my cause. In the ugly world of social media, you tend to repel people with your over developed sense of empathy, which most people sorely lack. I'm sure you already knew this.

Anyway, it doesn't matter to me if some guy who posts to the blacklivesmatter hashtag is a white who chooses to identify as black. It's an attack against a person and nothing more. And if it is indeed somehow so beneficial to be black, then I wonder why more of them don't do the same.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

No, I was trying to say that if Martin had been white that the response from the right would have been different.

Based on what?

 

[Vic]

Based on what?

Try a simple thought experiment. Suppose Martin was a 40 year old white male and everything else was the same. Martin walking back from the store with a Hispanic man stalking him right to his doorstep. Whose castle would the right had said was being defended then?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Try a simple thought experiment. Suppose Martin was a 40 year old white male and everything else was the same. Martin walking back from the store with a Hispanic man stalking him right to his doorstep. Whose castle would the right had said was being defended then?

Does 40 year old white male Martin still get on top of the Hispanic man and proceed to assault him, lying on the street, for ~30 seconds?

 

[Vic]

Does 40 year old white male Martin still get on top of the Hispanic man and proceed to assault him, lying on the street, for ~30 seconds?

What would you do if some guy stalked you all the way to your house and then waited outside?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

What would you do if some guy stalked you all the way to your house and then waited outside?

Personally, I'd probably just stay indoors and watch him from a window in a dark room, if possible. I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't attack him from behind as he walked away.

 

[Moonbeam]

Bitter much?

He is full of bitterness. You see who he is and you point it out to him because bitterness is a soul disease that makes ones own life more bitter than the bitterness of life needs for it to be. You are not as bitter as he is. You can see by your power of reason and the cumulative understanding of your past the negatives implied by being in that state. That is my take.

But my take is also that folk like Bober who are poisoned by bitterness can't be reached by the antivenom of reason because they can neither see their bitterness as a negative nor profit from that information.

I refer to this as being under a capsized boat. The way up for them is to dive. They need to feel so much bitterness that they remember it back to its root. This is a form of self love. The mind that is bitter stays bitter so long as it holds its own bitterness in contempt. We are bitter because we were made to feel bitter about being bitter. I love Bober and his bitterness because he is just like me. Bitterness like puss has a limit to quantity when lanced and squeezed out. And Bober isn't as sick as many because he can access his bitterness.

The real sin of bitterness is in acting it out on folk who can be hurt by it, especially children.

 

[Vic]

Personally, I'd probably just stay indoors and watch him from a window in a dark room, if possible. I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't attack him from behind as he walked away.

It was smart of Zimmerman, I admit, to make sure that only his version of the story would be heard.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

It was smart of Zimmerman, I admit, to make sure that only his version of the story would be heard.

Aside from the neighbors that recorded Zimmerman screaming for help, or Martin's girlfriend admitting that Martin had confronted Zimmerman, or...

 

[Vic]

Aside from the neighbors that recorded Zimmerman screaming for help, or Martin's girlfriend admitting that Martin had confronted Zimmerman, or...

So what you're saying is that Martin was not allowed to defend his 'castle?'

 

[Moonbeam]

Vic: Yaknow, Moonie, I do appreciate your confidence in me, but I'm not always sure that it helps my cause.

I have to guess at your cause. I see you as a superb example of intelligence and rational thinking, a proponent of the notion that the way to truth is via critical thinking, dialogue argument and dialectic interchange accompanied by a lamentation for their lack.

Myself, I believe that folk don't have that capacity, not because they never learned in school, although that is partially true, but because they are emotionally unhealthy, they hate themselves and every line of reasoning will lead them back to that fact if followed completely. It's where it lead me. But for reasons I can't fathom I seemed to have been a glutton for punishment.

So I only occasionally attempt to reason with people, either because I think they or somebody else can hear the arguments. Otherwise, I just try to hold up a mirror because until people see who they are, on those rare times when they might be willing to the primary hope they have is to see who they are.

I operate on a completely different dimension, then, one of instinct and feel guided by a completely different moral belief, that the truth is reached not by intellect alone but by inspiration, an intuitive flash of self consciousness. I am more like an ape in a room full of thinkers, who knows where the banana is. I want to play, let's find the banana.

Vic: In the ugly world of social media, you tend to repel people with your over developed sense of empathy, which most people sorely lack. I'm sure you already knew this.

M: The way I see it, I tell people they hate themselves and because it's true they hate me for it. They hear insults rather that facts because they are stuffed full of ego, the armor that we have built to keep away our real feelings. It is the exact same armor that makes us impervious to reason. The monster of self hate is always there waiting in the dark. We do not know what we feel. We do not know we do not know what we feel. We do not want to know we do not want to know what we feel. Only the deeply curious or the deeply hurt seem to have any chance. I would like to touch some of those.

Vic: Anyway, it doesn't matter to me if some guy who posts to the blacklivesmatter hashtag is a white who chooses to identify as black. It's an attack against a person and nothing more. And if it is indeed somehow so beneficial to be black, then I wonder why more of them don't do the same.

M: That empathy seems to have gotten you in trouble with some.

Anyway, I love the rational folk who post here. But for me personally, reason is too constraining. I enjoy meeting the insane on their own turf unconstrained by any notions of personal dignity, free to be who they are so they see themselves when they see me. You notice the clown avatar and the various interpretations one could glean from my handle.