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Race politics: Blacks are the only minorities, contracts should go to blacks only

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Whatever you need to tell yourself.

Its funny Eskimo how some folks equate someone no one has ever heard of running for mayor in one single city (albeit a big one true) with someone like RUsh Limbaugh who spouts racist, bigotted, mysogonistic crap on a weekly basis to a huge national audience of conservatives.

As you said, whatever they need to reinforce their narrow view of reality is ok by them.
 
Its funny Eskimo how some folks equate someone no one has ever heard of running for mayor in one single city (albeit a big one true) with someone like RUsh Limbaugh who spouts racist, bigotted, mysogonistic crap on a weekly basis to a huge national audience of conservatives.

As you said, whatever they need to reinforce their narrow view of reality is ok by them.

As soon as Rush becomes a candidate for PUBLIC OFFICE (ie, a position that should serve all constituents, not just some), that would be a perfectly good argument against his election. Right now he can spout of whatever he likes, he only has to appeal to his listeners and is under no obligation to serve anyone.

Also, if a white man running for Mayor of a major city had said such a thing, do you suppose it would have gotten more (major) national coverage? Yes, it most certainly would. The reality is that we can't move forward in terms of race relations in this country until we can have a realistic civil and frank discussion of issues without it immediately deteriorating into charges of racism.
 
As soon as Rush becomes a candidate for PUBLIC OFFICE (ie, a position that should serve all constituents, not just some), that would be a perfectly good argument against his election. Right now he can spout of whatever he likes, he only has to appeal to his listeners and is under no obligation to serve anyone.

Also, if a white man running for Mayor of a major city had said such a thing, do you suppose it would have gotten more (major) national coverage? Yes, it most certainly would. The reality is that we can't move forward in terms of race relations in this country until we can have a realistic civil and frank discussion of issues without it immediately deteriorating into charges of racism.

A White Candidate saying that Blacks are the only minority?
 
A white candidate saying something blatantly racist and stupid.

So what are you saying, that a White Candidate should be able to get away with it? Meeks is definitely a moron for saying that and he is being a racist in the true sense of the word. I'm betting that most Blacks wish he'd just keep his mouth shut but then on the other side we have white political figures that are just as stupid. Maybe not as blatantly racist as this guys was and I'm glad of that but just as stupid none the same.
 
with someone like RUsh Limbaugh who spouts racist, bigotted, mysogonistic crap on a weekly basis to a huge national audience of conservatives.

Well since you're using Rush Limbaugh as a scapegoat would you like to provide some examples of him being racist? Shouldn't be hard since he does it weekly.
 
Well since you're using Rush Limbaugh as a scapegoat would you like to provide some examples of him being racist? Shouldn't be hard since he does it weekly.

Limbaugh: "Steinbrenner Was A Cracker Who Made African-Americans Millionaires”

Limbaugh: "Obama & Oprah Are Only Successful Because They’re Black"

Limbaugh: Gov. Paterson A “Massa”

Limbaugh “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

Limbaugh: “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

Limbaugh: "Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
 
Limbaugh: "Steinbrenner Was A Cracker Who Made African-Americans Millionaires”

Limbaugh: "Obama & Oprah Are Only Successful Because They’re Black"

Limbaugh: Gov. Paterson A “Massa”

Limbaugh “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

Limbaugh: “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

Limbaugh: "Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp

lol please don't use the "FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: OMG RUSH LIMBAUGH SAID THIS!" from your mom as a source in the future
 
WTF are you talking about? I used Google. Now crawl back in the shack and STFU

Well since I can spot several of those that are obviously false quotes, why don't you pick your one most favorite most racist quote and we'll examine that, okay?
 
Well since I can spot several of those that are obviously false quotes, why don't you pick your one most favorite most racist quote and we'll examine that, okay?

Like I give a fuck. He's a hot bag of noxious gas and anybody who listens to him let alone feels the need to defend him is a fucking knuckledragging goon who likes being told what to think by him. They are called "Dittoheads" and "Upeople" Are you one of those ?
 
Like I give a fuck. He's a hot bag of noxious gas and anybody who listens to him let alone feels the need to defend him is a fucking knuckledragging goon who likes being told what to think by him. They are called "Dittoheads" and "Upeople" Are you one of those ?

Thank you for making my point. I think Rush is a loudmouth blowhard jackass but when I disagree with a person for their ideas I attack their ideas, the left seems to think it is okay to attack a persons character by calling him a racist if they disagree with their ideas. You try and discredit the person by dehumanizing the person, instead of arguing with reason.
 
Thank you for making my point. I think Rush is a loudmouth blowhard jackass but when I disagree with a person for their ideas I attack their ideas, the left seems to think it is okay to attack a persons character by calling him a racist if they disagree with their ideas. You try and discredit the person by dehumanizing the person, instead of arguing with reason.

I don't give a fuck what you or the left do or think, he's a fat piece of shit.
 
WTF are you talking about? I used Google. Now crawl back in the shack and STFU

Yeah, and anything found on the Internets is true!1!!1 You attacked him based on quotes that are bullcrap. I have no doubt there's plenty of things on Rush though, he's a gasbag.

So what are you saying, that a White Candidate should be able to get away with it? Meeks is definitely a moron for saying that and he is being a racist in the true sense of the word. I'm betting that most Blacks wish he'd just keep his mouth shut but then on the other side we have white political figures that are just as stupid. Maybe not as blatantly racist as this guys was and I'm glad of that but just as stupid none the same.

No, not saying a white candidate should be able to get away with it, just pointing out that a white candidate saying something equally stupid would have been crucified. Anyone who says something that stupid should be scorned, regardless of race. Meeks gets a pass for the most part because of his race.
 
Yeah, and anything found on the Internets is true!1!!1 You attacked him based on quotes that are bullcrap. I have no doubt there's plenty of things on Rush though, he's a gasbag.



No, not saying a white candidate should be able to get away with it, just pointing out that a white candidate saying something equally stupid would have been crucified. Anyone who says something that stupid should be scorned, regardless of race. Meeks gets a pass for the most part because of his race.

Bullcrap? dammitgibs asked for some racist quotes from old Fatbaugh and I googled them. Some I recognized and some I didn't. The topic of this thread isn't even about the bloated drug addled hypocritical peice of shit so that's as far as I was going to look into it.

As for Meeks getting away with it, doesn't seem like it to me. Most in this thread seem to think what he said was racist and stupid.
 
Since the Snopes entry was used to "refute" the claim that Mr. Limbaugh makes racist statements on air, I actually read the reference:
"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."
Media Matters also documents this statement as one made by Rush Limbaugh in the course of his radio program on 19 January 2007.

"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
Rush Limbaugh acknowledged making these statements in a 1990 Newsday article

"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."
This putative statement dates at least as far back as 1992, so the only documentation we've been able to locate for it is indirect. All the sources we've found that reference it cite the January 1993 issue of Flush Rush Quarterly as their source.
So of the three quotes directly addressed by the Snopes article, two are confirmed as accurate...
 
WEll be it far from me to present some truth here. He should have not said it in that context, but what he said was 100% true. As a matter of fact a republican think tank wrote an article a few years back about how black businesses were not getting a fair share of business contracts. And the article went on to show how many contracts were given to white women and counted as minority. Also that same article pointed out that whites who are not of American decscent qualify as minority. How the hell does a city that is over 1/3 black have only 7% of the contracts go to african american businesses? Yeah right



07% African Americans
8% women
8% Asian
14% Hispanics
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37%

That adds up to more than 25% of minority contracts according to procurment rules, that Chicago should be letting

Or is it that you feel that the contracts should be related minority percentages. doing so can generate contracts for those that are not qualified, and also persist in the minority persecution that this one joker is pushing.

He complains about the low percentage - maybe he should look at contracts that the African Americans did not win and see why?
 
Maybe this is because the blacks are the most apathetic RACE in the United States. People need to get off their collective behinds and take responibility for themselves. It is a shame because a lot of black people are really dedicated workers and aggressive in small business. However, some black activist are very good at using "White Guilt" to get money for people in the Black Race. I think people both black and white and others first have to believe that they can succeed and make something of themselves and be successful in school and in life.

My suggestion is dont give into the White Guilt Complex.

Ask yourselves why other races such as Asians seem to be doing just fine???

I have seen how in construction the people in charge seem to be old grumpy men. They tend to use their good-old-boy networks and for years have resisted integration. It takes years of hard work to build up a successful construction business. In reality to do well in the construction business you have to be able to control the white-run Labor Unions.
 
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Jesse Jackson actually went further than Meeks; he proposed limiting minority set-asides to only blacks born in the United States because blacks from other countries hadn't truly experienced racism. Under that standard, the son of a black Chicago heart surgeon deserves special consideration, but the immigrant son of a South African dustman does not. Meeks is by Jackson's standards relatively enlightened; as long as you have the complexion for the connection he'd hook you up with some tax money without unduly worrying about your recent history. Of course, the descendant of an Irish slave or an impressed Chinese railway worker or a Vietnamese immigrant fleeing Communist death squads and arriving with literally nothing but the clothes he is wearing are all far too privileged to be allowed to compete with the son of the black Chicago heart surgeon by Meeks' standards, but hey, you can't have everything.
 
Ah, thanks for ending the long gap (hours!) since the last chance to mention 95%+ of what I see here about liberals is wrong or lies, I can't remember the other 5%.

As for all our racist posters:

The fact is, that African Americans have a unique history in the United States. Unlike any other group, millions were brought here by force into a crippling slavery system for centuries, creating an entire demographic group or sub-society of people who did not get educated, form their own culture living in their own houses, going to their own community centers, reading newspapers, developing as a culture and society - treated like animals. Generation after generation after generation after generation.

sounds alot like what happened to the chinese too. 🙄

lets not forget what happened to native americans, some of whom I can cal family.


one of the only thing as sad as craigs post, is a post of someone defending rush 🙁
 
sounds alot like what happened to the chinese too. 🙄

No, it doesn't. A brief period of discrimination against a free group of people who have a culture, history, community is not at all like the history of African-Americans.

lets not forget what happened to native americans, some of whom I can cal family.

What happened to Native Americans was basically genocide and being forced onto reservations, their land stolen and way of life destroyed, with destructive results now.

But even that is very different than the African-American experience.

They didn't have centuries of being slaves to whites, and then a century of living as second-class citizens in white society.

One of the only things as sad as your post showing a lack of understanding of the history is the posting defending Rush.
 
Craig, I fail to see why black people had it so bad? I mean they weren't the only people taken as slaves during the period so their experience wasn't unique. Unless you are talking about their own people selling them out, then yeah that would be unique because the Europeans that were being taken as slaves sure as fuck weren't turning their own kind over to the Barbary Coast slave traders.
 
Jesse Jackson actually went further than Meeks; he proposed limiting minority set-asides to only blacks born in the United States because blacks from other countries hadn't truly experienced racism.

This makes some sense, as the harms from centuries of racism are against one group unlike what other groups have had.

Many groups have had terrible problems with poverty and oppression, but the American black experience is unique in US history.

The problem is you are making a point from your misguided lie of what affirmative action is. Hey it's just fun to give away stuff and pander to minorities for votes!

That's your version, and so any comment from that is similarly idiotic. Affirmative Action can have different purposes, but the primary original intent involves recognizing that there is not an equal starting point in society to say 'after those centuries, now you are equal', and to try to provide some small amount of correction for a more equal opportunity when the history of racism creates perpetual inequality today.

Under that standard, the son of a black Chicago heart surgeon deserves special consideration, but the immigrant son of a South African dustman does not.

Yes, that's an average example. The fact that you have to lie by selecting such an atypical example, and not honestly discussing the real average situation, proves how wrong your 'point' is. If the average black today had overcome the effects of centuries of racism to the point the average had a surgeon father, we wouldn't need any affirmative action. But that's not the case - except in your lie version of the black situation and history.

Meeks is by Jackson's standards relatively enlightened; as long as you have the complexion for the connection he'd hook you up with some tax money without unduly worrying about your recent history. Of course, the descendant of an Irish slave or an impressed Chinese railway worker or a Vietnamese immigrant fleeing Communist death squads and arriving with literally nothing but the clothes he is wearing are all far too privileged to be allowed to compete with the son of the black Chicago heart surgeon by Meeks' standards, but hey, you can't have everything.

The immigrant from Vietnam tyranny in the past can have a terrible situation, and for other reasons be deserving of assistance if we choose for humanitarian reasons.

But the African-American situation is uniquely American, something OUR NATION did to millions of blacks, making it arguably more our responsibility than foreign tyranny.

I'm all for putting the human race first and looking how the US can practically help reduce poverty and injustice globally, but the African-American history is unique.

Of course, when you agenda is nothing more than some combination of racism and ignorance, I don't expect you to agree much.

The group who has nothing to say for other oppressed poor, except when they can be used for debating points against African-American programs.
 
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