R9 290X review (hardware.info)

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Nvidia has a new WHQL out that bumped the performance in a few of those titles, no idea if it was used or not (or if it's even legit).

Either way the 290X looks like a great card for AMD.
 
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Lepton87

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Nothing worth upgrading my Titan to. Just a bit faster. On that dark tech slide those cards perform neck and neck in every game, I'd expect much bigger variations. Sometimes 7970GE is as fast as Titan just to be beaten by 35% in another game. Something tells me JHH would try to topple that card with some crazy expensive Titan TI ultra Extreme Vapor Edition at 1500$ price tag. Something akin to 6800Ultra Extreme when X800XT PE beat the regular 6800U.
 

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Nvidia has a new WHQL out that bumped the performance in a few of those titles, no idea if it was used or not (or if it's even legit).

Either way the 290X looks like a great card for AMD.

What resolution, settings, benchmarks they are taking the power and temps from? A link to the source might help.
 

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Nvidia has a new WHQL out that bumped the performance in a few of those titles, no idea if it was used or not (or if it's even legit).

Either way the 290X looks like a great card for AMD.


Everything looks good but the 94 temp, too hot for my taste even if the card is meant to handle it. I'm sure aftermarket coolers will help resolve some of this tho.
 

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Everything looks good but the 94 temp, too hot for my taste even if the card is meant to handle it. I'm sure aftermarket coolers will help resolve some of this tho.

Titan only goes to 80C because after that temp it goes to the base clock and looses a lot of performance.
 

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Everything looks good but the 94 temp, too hot for my taste even if the card is meant to handle it. I'm sure aftermarket coolers will help resolve some of this tho.

The only time we've seen that temp reported was with Furmark. That's why it would be good to have the link to the source.
 

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Titan only goes to 80C because after that temp it goes to the base clock and looses a lot of performance.

What in the heck are you talking about? This is not how GPU Boost 2.0 works. It isn't how GPU Boost 1.0 worked either. Let me correct you: what you meant to say was, it lowers in 1 bin / 13mhz increments if the TDP or temperature limit is exceeded, and you specify which you want to use over the other. Personally in my experience with the reference Titan cooler, it may lower 1-2 bins at most in extraordinarily demanding games and 1-2 bins does not affect performance to an appreciable extent - It does not lose a "lot of performance" like you say. But if said 1-2 bins bother you, you can use a more aggressive fan profile to offset it - or you can specify TDP preference instead of temp preference to eliminate the issue.

I don't know why you would say the Titan goes to base clock past 80C. That is not true at all.
 
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If it ridicules Titan in BF4 with Mantle, then it can do so from inside my rig because i'll be buying one. The only game I will give any sort of crap about in the next 2 years will be BF4. The winner for this game is what i'm getting. Also, 4gb of Vram is nice. So sick of buying gimped cards from Nvidia. People with 7970's are still laughing their asses off.

EDIT: Also, the poor folks who recently bought GTX 770's? Are you kidding? Those cards are gimped out of the box upon release, provided you didn't splurge on the large Ram models (which you shouldn't have to do for 1080p for god's sake). 770's should cost $250 for that sad reason.

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Everything looks good but the 94 temp, too hot for my taste even if the card is meant to handle it. I'm sure aftermarket coolers will help resolve some of this tho.
i think there is no after market cooler for this card just like titan.
 

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I really want to see some R9 290 Xfire reviews.

Those cards would be severely underutilized on a 2500k though wouldn't they?
 

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Just overclock the 2500k and it should be minimal. (unless the new console ports actually use more cores)
 

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Nvidia has a new WHQL out that bumped the performance in a few of those titles, no idea if it was used or not (or if it's even legit).

Either way the 290X looks like a great card for AMD.

Source?

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Thx @wand3r3r, found it.

IF you think it's appropriate to trust in leaked, unofficial, unconfirmed benchmarks rather than wait for proper reviews...

Lol it doesn't matter if it is 10%, 20% or 30% faster. Upgrading for that kind of improvement is never a good idea. 50+% and we're talking.
 
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wand3r3r

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facebook.com/dark.load.reviews is visible in the images watermark, possibly from there.
 

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The power is a bit high, but that on its own wouldn't bother me. The 94 degree temperature is quite a bit more disturbing. Probably a furmark measure which isn't too useful, but what kind of noise is the card going to produce at those temperatures? Noise most definitely is a buying factor for me.
 

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The power is a bit high, but that on its own wouldn't bother me. The 94 degree temperature is quite a bit more disturbing. Probably a furmark measure which isn't too useful, but what kind of noise is the card going to produce at those temperatures? Noise most definitely is a buying factor for me.

We've already seen the 94°C in another graph that did reference the benchmark and it is indeed Furmark. Without anything at all to reference the test setup, settings and benches this chart isn't very useful.
 

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In 3DMark it reached 93°C at 43% fan speed as well.

What in the heck are you talking about? This is not how GPU Boost 2.0 works. It isn't how GPU Boost 1.0 worked either. Let me correct you: what you meant to say was, it lowers in 1 bin / 13mhz increments if the TDP or temperature limit is exceeded, and you specify which you want to use over the other. Personally in my experience with the reference Titan cooler, it may lower 1-2 bins at most in extraordinarily demanding games and 1-2 bins does not affect performance to an appreciable extent - It does not lose a "lot of performance" like you say. But if said 1-2 bins bother you, you can use a more aggressive fan profile to offset it - or you can specify TDP preference instead of temp preference to eliminate the issue.

I don't know why you would say the Titan goes to base clock past 80C. That is not true at all.

Yes it can be. Look at HT4U, Computerbase, Hardware.fr, there is a ~10% performance difference between stock and PT/TT@max (no overvolting).
It depends on how good the ambient cooling is obviously.
 

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In 3DMark it reached 93°C at 43% fan speed as well.



Yes it can be. Look at HT4U, Computerbase, Hardware.fr, there is a ~10% performance difference between stock and PT/TT@max (no overvolting).
It depends on how good the ambient cooling is obviously.

I have a feeling 43% fan is putting noise before heat (obviously if it's hitting 90c). What are the comparable coolers running at and what temperatures are they hitting? I wonder how loud it is at that speed.

Was there anything else on the FB page?