R9 290 *Complete* review list

[GaiaHunter]

I'd still get a 290X over a 290. AMD chose to brute force their way through benchmarks in order to attain better marketing value in expense of higher heat, power, and noise.

I'm willing to pay more for more capable hardware in the form of increased SPs. It's the same reason I found it silly that some people with Titans went with 780s at the time of release. For me, more SPs > brute force clocking.

I guess that depends a bit where the bottleneck is.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I'd still get a 290X over a 290. AMD chose to brute force their way through benchmarks in order to attain better marketing value in expense of higher heat, power, and noise.

I'm willing to pay more for more capable hardware in the form of increased SPs. It's the same reason I found it silly that some people with Titans went with 780s at the time of release. For me, more SPs > brute force clocking.

I tend to agree with you. If you set the 290x fan to what they have on the 290 in it's stock form it will see the same performance increase.

That being said, just wait for aftermarket cards to come out.

 

[ultimatebob]

That being said, just wait for aftermarket cards to come out.

Yeah... I think that the third party manufacturers are going to take the stock 290 well past 290X speeds once they add a quality cooler to the mix. I'd expect some of them to post overclocked benchmarks matching the performance of a GeForce 780 Ti, but priced $200 cheaper.

 

[el etro]

Performance and thermals modding on 290X for going xfire(all your arguments will be invalid): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXdVG7kCUAAbwNW.jpg

source: http://techreport.com/discussion/25...-ti-graphics-card-reviewed?post=776154#776154



seen it here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1803696&postcount=1978

 

[Abwx]

Hardware.fr review should be rightously added to the list,
it s very clear and well done , 15 games at three res with
easy comparisons.

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/910-1/amd-radeon-r9-290x-test-hawaii-sors-ses-watts.html

 

[smackababy]

I bit the bullet on a 290 and will have it Saturday. Reference cooler is a problem you say? Well, not for us watercoolers. I'll do a air test tomorrow and then when I get all the parts for my new loop, will see what I can do with some 10C deltas.

 

[Z15CAM]

I think this TOM's Hardware Review has about the best explanation as to what's with the R9 290/X Thermal Throttling issue:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-driver-fix,3666.html

 

[chimaxi83]

I bit the bullet on a 290 and will have it Saturday. Reference cooler is a problem you say? Well, not for us watercoolers. I'll do a air test tomorrow and then when I get all the parts for my new loop, will see what I can do with some 10C deltas.

I'll have two on Monday also water cooled. Just need another block. I was seeing max temps of around 45C with my 290X, 50C with a little voltage and modded BIOS (which did absolutely nothing for clocks, unstable BIOS I believe). Anyway, should be fun!

 

[Z15CAM]

I starting to believe the R9 290/X Thermal Issues might tax the AIB MFGr's ability to make as small, efficient or as cheap cooling solution for the R9 290/X Hawaii GPU's as compared to the Tahiti. We may end up paying more for the cost of AIB Mfgr's Redesign and Tooling for probably Bigger, more Efficient and Higher Cost Items.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I starting to believe the R9 290/X Thermal Issues might tax the AIB MFGr's ability to make as small, efficient or as cheap cooling solution for the R9 290/X Hawaii GPU's as compared to the Tahiti. We may end up paying more for the cost of AIB Mfgr's Redesign and Tooling for probably Bigger, more Efficient and Higher Cost Items.

There are articles where they took an afternarket 7970 cooler and stuck it on the 290x and brought temps down by like 25c with low noise. Its not that the chip is that much hotter than Tahiti its that they designed it to run at 95c to keep noise down.

 

[Z15CAM]

Its not that the chip is that much hotter than Tahiti its that they designed it to run at 95c to keep noise down.

That's just one issue but basically the industry does not have an Small Efficient cooler for the way the Hawaii GPU addresses Performance/Thermal Throttling.

 

[Lonyo]

I bit the bullet on a 290 and will have it Saturday. Reference cooler is a problem you say? Well, not for us watercoolers. I'll do a air test tomorrow and then when I get all the parts for my new loop, will see what I can do with some 10C deltas.

Do you have anything to measure power consumption with? Like stock clocks, stock cooler vs watercooled temps.

 

[chimaxi83]

Do you have anything to measure power consumption with? Like stock clocks, stock cooler vs watercooled temps.

I plan on doing this with my Kill-A-Watt

 

[3DVagabond]

That's just one issue but basically the industry does not have an Small Efficient cooler for the way the Hawaii GPU addresses Performance/Thermal Throttling.

They're just going to use the same coolers they use on other custom O/C'd models. Judging from the 7970 HIS cooler, and it's 63°C temps, (which is actually one of the best coolers from any of the manufacturers) they'll do just fine.

 

[Silverforce11]

That's just one issue but basically the industry does not have an Small Efficient cooler for the way the Hawaii GPU addresses Performance/Thermal Throttling.

So now AIBs won't be able to cool it.. because its soooo power hungry, right?

Tone it back a bit! There's gonna be so much mud on so many people's faces once custom models are out.

 

[raghu78]

So now AIBs won't be able to cool it.. because its soooo power hungry, right?

Tone it back a bit! There's gonna be so much mud on so many people's faces once custom models are out.

exactly some real crap is being spewn around

http://www.techspot.com/review/736-amd-radeon-r9-290/page8.html

"Update: Based on your feedback, I took the IceQ X2 cooler off the HIS Radeon R9 280X and stuck it on our R9 290 sample. Cooling was dramatically improved. The FurMark stress test maxed out at 76 degrees while the card never exceeded 63 degrees in Crysis 3 and Battlefield 4. So it seems as expected the board partners will be able to solve the heat issues of the reference card."

less than 65c in gaming. :thumbsup: this chip can easily be pushed to 1200 mhz with voltage overclocking on a cooler like the asus dcii top / matrix or his iceq x2 or sapphire toxic.

 

[Z15CAM]

When it comes to me regarding video card expenses, I never attempt to buy the Prom Queen but rather focus on the Wall Flower to balance loss investment / descent performance.

No doubt AIB MFgr's will build effective air coolers to enhance the 290/X's Performance and Thermal Cooling Characteristics but I will not be surprised if their new air coolers might cost more then their Haiti GPU Solutions.

Other then for the alleged short supply of Hawaii chips an other reason for the delay in AIB releases might be due to further study of the Thermal Character's of the 290/X GPU before tooling up for final productions.

I see a Reference Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 947MHZ 4GB 5.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Video Card listed at $485.42 "NOT AVAILABLE" on NewEgg.CA - Surely hope that price is not going to reflect that Up Mark for that Card here.

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[VulgarDisplay]

I just love how the haters can't admit that these cards might actually be selling well. "Out of stock, they are having supply problems." No one says, "Out of stock, they must be selling like hotcakes."

 

[3DVagabond]

I just love how the haters can't admit that these cards might actually be selling well. "Out of stock, they are having supply problems." No one says, "Out of stock, they must be selling like hotcakes."

Well, OoS does mean there's a supply problem, which of course could be created because they are selling really well.

 

[Zanovar]

My next card for sure,just hope AIBs dont take too long.I have various family members eyeing my 670 like a carcass in the Serengeti so they are hoping AIBs bring them out soon too

 

[(sic)Klown12]

My next card for sure,just hope AIBs dont take too long.I have various family members eyeing my 670 like a carcass in the Serengeti so they are hoping AIBs bring them out soon too

Everything I read says custom cards should be here by the end of the month. I'm still a little perplexed as to why AMD didn't do that same thing they did with 280X and let AIB partners go crazy from the start.

 

[Arkuatika]

Everything I read says custom cards should be here by the end of the month. I'm still a little perplexed as to why AMD didn't do that same thing they did with 280X and let AIB partners go crazy from the start.

I always wondered why impose a reference design, possibly for liability issues? In case manufacturer messes up the initial design?

 

[Zanovar]

Everything I read says custom cards should be here by the end of the month. I'm still a little perplexed as to why AMD didn't do that same thing they did with 280X and let AIB partners go crazy from the start.

Im guessing its because its a new architecture.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...B8iatAbNtoHwBg&ved=0CC0QqAI&biw=2560&bih=1352

 

[3DVagabond]

Everything I read says custom cards should be here by the end of the month. I'm still a little perplexed as to why AMD didn't do that same thing they did with 280X and let AIB partners go crazy from the start.

just a guess, but probably not enough chips.

 

[MrK6]

just a guess, but probably not enough chips.

Would be my guess as well.